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You may argue that the level of "villainy" is different compared to Crocodile, but that seems to be splitting hairs more than anything else. Crocodile's mis-deeds are not that much worse than Bon Clay's or several other individuals that have been forgiven. And, if you add the fact that Crocodile has been serving time in jail, then his actions after the fight are comparable to Bon Clay's (specifically, both have had their karmic retribution: Bon Clay by saving Merry and being attacked by Marines, and Crocodile by serving time in a horrific prison without attempting to escape). That being said, you have to realize, no one is saying that Crocodile will become a nakama, or in any way end up on the Thousand Sunny. Speculations concerning Crocodile are strictly confined to Impell Down. Afterwards, Crocodile would probably attempt to kill Luffy, but during the escape, every strong pirate will be needed. Quote:
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2008-12-15, 22:47 | Link #307 | ||||
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First of all, I have to say that you should probably take out the links/images you posted. This forum does not allow for full translated pages to be posted, so you could potentially receive an infraction for the images.
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That being said, the relative ease in which Luffy and company "forgave" Bon Clay (and I always thought of them as easily forgiving Bon Clay, as well as several other characters), always indicated to me that Luffy and company do not hold lasting grudges. Quote:
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2008-12-15, 23:28 | Link #309 | |
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It's easily replaceable. So i don't think Cro, if ever wants to set free, would roam the jail to find a hook. In fact, shouldn't the marine have just disposed of it?
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Well, as i said: "If Crocodile still wants to rule the world." And he should be. We still don't know why he didn't get free when he has the chance, do we? |
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2008-12-16, 00:52 | Link #310 | ||||||
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Bon Clay is truly a special case and I'm not going to denie that I'm trying to minimalize Bon Clay's role since what he did had a lot of impact. And though I want to make the lame joke that no-one dies in OP it doesn't make it any less true even if they weren't any deads. He still had the intention to help Crocodile all the way. He even tried to kill Vivi personally. That's why I always find him so controversial or maybe he's just a man of extremes. One moment he's trying to kill Vivi the other moment he throws his own life away to help his friends escape. But it doesn't make it any less true either that he had one hell of an advantage to get forgiven, saving Merry from the marines wasn't a little thing imo. He's even the person that I want to see reunite with Luffy the most in Impel Down. Could you imagine them meeting up since Luffy actually shed tears while parting with him for his heroic act. I can already imagine him saying "tomodachi". Though the strange thing is that I don't want him to meet up with Crocodile but they'll probably share a cell. Quote:
This is just my one-sided opinion and I was just curious why people think Croc has a chance of teaming up with Luffy and if it's cause so many allies get forgiven then point noted even if I don't agree with it. Quote:
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Actually they are several theories out there, the best one imo that he lost his ambition and just didn't care any more. That theory even supports that he could help out in Impel Down cause he could miraculously regain his ambition all of a sudden while Luffy tries to save his brother.
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2008-12-16, 01:23 | Link #311 | |
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Secondly, the word vehement merely means a forceful or intense expression. So, saying that you have a vehement stance concerning this issue is not a lie (since you strongly stand by your opinion and do not accept my possible scenarios of Crocodile and Luffy potentially working together, I would say you have a fairly vehement stance concerning the issue at hand), nor is it an attack (though if you think that I am exaggerating your stance, please clarify the matter for me). In the end, neither word that I used was particularly negative in its definition or intent, but since you seem to have reacted badly to the use of said words, I apologise. I am sorry to divert attention for this issue, but I felt it was better to clear the air before any resent starts to form and starts to cloud our judgment regarding each other's opinions. I really like One Piece's villains. The sheer arrogance of Enel, the viciousness of Lucci, the laziness and secret history of Moria, and, of course, the original Big Bad - Crocodile (who was deliciously "evil" in the intent and execution of his plans). Blackbeard's growing on me, but I really want to see what DoFlamingo has up his feathery sleeves . |
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2008-12-16, 04:19 | Link #312 | |
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And you're not wrong when you got the impression that I stand strong bye my own opinion. While I do think that I'm rather open minded, I only get convinced bye solid arguments or else I give priority to my own impressions. I guess at times it could come over as arrogant but I rather think it as strong-willed :P . It only makes it more funny when I'm wrong. I'm the first one to laugh with myself to, hell I even got prooven wrong this week cause I said on an other forum before that there was no chance in Konohamaru beating that one body of Pain. I'm so hoping in him to stand up and leave with the rest of the Pains. I know mangakas and there mangas are inconceivable but don't we all like to think that we understand our favorite chars. Now something about OP, I hope we see Boa in color or is it only one colorspread of all the strawhats? It would be interesting to find out her hair color! And Luffy will help Boa bye using gomu gomu no flat and cover Boa her tattoo. Also I can't wait to see that marine that'll inspect Boa, I thougth that female marine was wearing quite a sexy outfit. The marines do have taste in clothing.
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(I agree about the Impell Down outfits. Both the men's and the women's are quite interesting, and the women's uniform is quite sexy...) |
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