2008-09-08, 23:28 | Link #82 | ||
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Frankly, i very much prefer the first scenario... Vizards remain as good guys, and Aizen's "perfection" is borken since he was actually wrong about not needing to lift a finger to win this battle... However, considering the odds against the espada and Aizen's serious lack of minions, the second scenario seems much more likely to happen... and it annoys me most since Aizen's evil plans are just TOO flawless, if he KNEW the vizards were gonna come to his aid. Though granted, i do think i would like the vizards to aid the captians now and play the good guys, but then become villians in their own right, not allied with Aizen |
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2008-09-08, 23:43 | Link #83 |
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Ichigo might beat the weakest VL without a real power-up in some weeks. After that, the big hype is pretty much gone imo, and a mixed team(1 senior + 1 junior captain) should be able to deal with them(VL) without too much struggle. As long as Aizen/Gin/Tousen stay in the fire cage I can't even see the need for the Vizard's aid(in case they team up with SS), simply because Ichigo will crush the big hype by beating Ulqiorra.
It sure depends on how Ichigo will manage to do it, a serious power-up is important to keep their status a bit unaffected. From the author's point of view it's a pita, he got ultrahyped, but yet outnumbered bad boys and SS's elite(Yamamoto/Ukitake/Kyourako) who had no real time in the limelight until now. I see a cheap way to bypass all this trouble. The top 3 are still Adjuchas, therefore they are beaten(=chance for the captains to show off an please fans) but either the Vizards till take the Espada's spot as enemies or Aizen goes "hoh you defeated these pawns, me not breaking a sweat though, take a look at my REAL espada *evil laughter*" which would classify as an Asspull par excellence. I guess this is the biggest challenge for Kubo-san as an author.
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2008-09-09, 02:17 | Link #84 | |
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2008-09-09, 03:02 | Link #85 |
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I am with Kenshin. As long as the fights aren't Cheesy I don't see any reason why they cannot beat the top....even if I hope they can't. I want the Viz to show up and save their asses so they can have the shitface for wanting to kill them. Personally I think the fans over hyped the Arrancar to such heights it hurts when they come crashing down (especially in speedos with pubes and they aren't even attractive)
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2008-09-09, 07:56 | Link #89 | |
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The series is determined to show the pinnale of strength which Aizen wants to reach, thus Zero Division, the kings dimension. I definitely think that this will be shown, and other than Aizen eventually gets there, I cannot imagine another reason why they would go there... Also, I mean, if you really think about it then either there are more enemies we don't know about yet or the ones we know are even stronger then we thought... because on our side we have: Ichigo, Inoue, Sado, Ishida AND whole SS AND the vaizards on top of that, to conclude the series there are more characters whose strength must be revealed: Kurosaki Isshin, Urahara, Yoruichi, Ishida Ryuuken and of course Zero division, which should be on our side, in a battle SS vs hollows... so in numbers, that we know, we have got a total of 6 enemies plus fraccion (excluding ulquiorra and Yami [where the hell is he anyway]) and a army on our side D= |
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2008-09-09, 08:28 | Link #90 | |
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But anyway, someone must die because Bleach is rather boring otherwise in terms of its plot. We can alrdy predict what will happen - VCs kiill all the arrancar, Espada are taken down by the Captains (perhaps Ukitake or someone may get injured but no one will die). Meanwhile, Ichigo gets beaten up by Ulq, then his friends help him and inspire him and all, and he some how against all odds defeats Ulq, then goes to the living world with his gang and the 4 Captains, OR the whole Hueco Group stay in Hueco but open one portal to the living world which can last only long enough for one person to go through it. Ichigo is obviously chosen (even though the one of the Captains is probably the more logically choice) and after some short goodbyes and more inspirational stuff, he ends up in the living world where the Captains (good and bad) are pretty much on a level playing field even though they outnumber the baddies (perhaps Yoruichi, Kisuke and the Vaizards, will be nice to see all their masks, will help too) but Aizen is some godlike freak. So anyway, they fight, more get injured and unable to battle, then when all hope seems to be lost, Ichigo and co discover a loophole in Aizen's grand plan. Ichigo exploits it and saves the universe. What would be nice and interesting and shocking to read would be Ulq kills Ichigo, Inoue goes crazy and destroys the universe. Or the Vaizards turn up to help AIZEN instead of Soul Society, which they very well may do judging by what Shinji said in the last Pendulum. But thats a small twist, nothing really THAT major, since Soul Society may still somehow be able to defeat the combined forces of Aizen, Gin, Tousen and the Vaizards. A cooler version would be if the Vaizards DO join Aizen and Aizen pwns SS, makes the Key, kills the Soul King and rules the world. Basically anything that follows logic would be interesting. Last edited by Konpachi; 2008-09-18 at 03:37. |
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2008-09-09, 09:21 | Link #91 |
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The SS doesn't have to be good or likable, they just have to do their job, and they did it for quite a while now. As long as the balance in the universe remains, everything is fine, it's their only purpose"." Aizen isn't the selfless and sympathetic rebel/revolutionist, he is the one who endangers the whole universe by taking the crown
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2008-09-09, 11:09 | Link #92 | |
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Bleach needs SOME deaths to happen so we remain emotionally invested in the fate of the characters. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but currently I'm reading Bleach each week out of habit and an eventual desire to see what happens in the end. There is no edge of my seat 'oh my god I gotta read it!' pull happening at the moment and there hasn't been for a while. If you think there is a chance that one of your favourite characters will die the next week, or even just one of the main characters, there is a really good chance you are going to make DAMN sure you pick a copy up the next week. If they go through this entire war and not a single goodie dies it's pretty cheap don't you think? I know that SS isn't 'human' per se, but that doesn't mean they should be infallible beings. How are we as readers supposed to identify with them then? There should be the risk of death at every turn, given that this is a war, and to make the risk believable and legitimate, someone important (but not from Ichigo's nakama pack, obviously) has to go. But that's just me. |
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2008-09-10, 18:22 | Link #93 | |
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2008-09-11, 01:09 | Link #94 | |
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Funny I want to see only the characters I am not emotionally invested in die. Then I wouldn't mind... |
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