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View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 13 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 62 | 53.45% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 34 | 29.31% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 9.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 6.03% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 0.86% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.86% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2008-01-14, 06:14 | Link #101 |
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Let me first say that this ep is awesome. The action sequences are nicely animated and definitely get some blood pumping.
I'm definitely disappointed with how both Pheles and Margery unable to rip Wilhelmina's cloth apart. Don't y'all remember how Yuuji exploded and burn them to dust in one of the prev eps? He hasn't even produced the silver flame at the moment, but he was able to cook them into nothing. Yet both Pheles and Margery just fell like that? Well, Margery's fire burn the cloths to pieces so the cloths shouldn't be that tough. Another forced event is Margery going berserk. If anything, she should be attacking Pheles by assuming that the silver flame came from her as opposed to, Yuuji? How long have Margery and Yuuji known each other and yet she was asking him, "so you're not tomogara? You're not siver?" Gotta say, in this anime alcohol seems to be a hell of a drug. |
2008-01-14, 06:15 | Link #102 |
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This episode makes me wish Yoshida would just get torch'd. I never realized how much I truly hated her until now. Seriously? Did we really go through all that over-the-top, badass action just so we could here you say that Yuji is "far away from me"? Just hearing her say that made me angrier than anything else I've seen in this show. I think there are a few, slightly more urgent matters than your broken heart Kazumi. Her line was so out of place with everything else that was going on, that it kinda tarnished all the exciting events that had happened beforehand. Her one-sided love for Yuji has become so muddled, that it's actually starting to bring down the rest of the plot.
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2008-01-14, 06:26 | Link #103 | |
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I mean, should I try to write down the events of the battle, I'd get maybe a page of writing with the dialouge. It's useless. Quote:
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2008-01-14, 08:15 | Link #105 |
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Looks like Shana still needs conditioning if she thinks Yuuji is going to be destroyed instead of being killed. And Magery's random nonsense of spells has just reach the peak with "who stole my pie".
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2008-01-14, 08:52 | Link #106 |
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I was actually pleasantly surprised to discover that Pheles is not the main villain. All the hints pointed to her, but she is only desperate to reunite with her lover. They manged to surprise me and this is a plus in my book.
Perfect 10 for: awesome fight, plot advancement, a tender moment between Tanaka and Oga-chan, and Wilhelmina cradling Pheles. Best episode so far. |
2008-01-14, 08:56 | Link #107 |
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Solid kick ass episode with fire, swords, death, destruction, and a whole lot of shit going boom. That was the most destruction iv seen since the end of the first season. Pheles is even more intruing now and now im thinking she might not turn out to be as evil as i previously thought. With her not consuming humans she is fairly weak. But she sure as hell knows how to make an entrance. Her bgm once again was beautifully done. That music was perfect for the scene.
Now this mystery about Reiji Maigo and a mutation has peeked my interest even more i never considered that a mutation could have occured. When pheles said it was not acting properly that sent bells a ringing in my head. Honestly how much do we really know about the reiji maigo and exactly its function? We technically only have 3 party info on it. Pheles the creator should be able to fill us in on concret info. Tanaka and Oga i loved that scene it has been building and finally we see the result. Hopfully tanaka wont waste anymore time
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2008-01-14, 09:00 | Link #108 | |
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Most of us as human beings have at one time or another harbour some form of selfish thoughts in the most inappropriate of situations, though most of us are sensible enough to keep these thoughts absolutely private. So her "temporary disregard" for other people is quite normal to me. Who knows, it may turn her to the "Dark Side" and become an interesting plot point. holyman got it right on the mark in his post in analyzing the fights. It first started out with Margery in a blind rage and Pheles being unrelentless while eager in trying to extract her Johann from the Reiji Maigo. On the other hand, both Shana and Wilhelmina, though they were initially pegged back, managed to keep their heads cool. The out-of-control Margery was simply exhausting her energy, Pheles was the same as well. Not to mention Shana has defeated a berserk Margery before. I don't think the Margery vs Wilhelmina part is in the novel at all, so I'm just extrapolating from holyman's post. |
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2008-01-14, 09:14 | Link #110 | |
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although i really liked the pheles/johan story. i think pheles should just die, she is such a cruel and mindless b**** |
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2008-01-14, 09:51 | Link #112 |
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Finally, that was the kind of Ko Otani music i've wanted to hear from the second season. Plenty of new tracks played --- just in time for the second season's soundtrack release.
So yeah that was a great episode, about time i guess. Pheles' vs Shana was fun to watch, the type of battle scenes i like from this series. CRAZY Margery was just crazy, and expected. I very much liked that few minute flash back scene. I'd love more of those. Next episode looks to carry on things with Pheles, though after that i hope we don't return to high school drama, especially after this episode.
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And you are seriously underestimating the psycological impact of seeing someone by all acounts getting killed in front of your eyes. Yes, Tanaka experienced life in a Fuzetsu before, but all he did was sit at the Haridan most of the time, and the only times he didn't he was never actually around the site of battle. Knowing people get hurt and seeing people get hurt are two vastly different things. Add to that that Oga's 'death' was not exactly the most clean one and I would have complained if Tanaka had acted casual on the matter. |
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2008-01-14, 11:28 | Link #114 | |
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The line between friend and foe just got blurred again.
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2008-01-14, 11:35 | Link #115 | |||||
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It was just a stupid fight in my opinion without plot. Maybe you feel differently, and I respect that. But to me, it just wasn't interesting. Quote:
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Keep in mind, these are all my opinions. I'm not going to change my rating of this episode, because a 3 is just how much I enjoyed it. It was boring and useless in my mind. cnnydz: If 1 is true, I'm very upset. But, I'm not going to stop watching it, now that I'm this far in. I doubt I'll be watch a S3 if it ever comes out.
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2008-01-14, 15:03 | Link #118 | |
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After watching this episode... I don't know, it just seems like you need to marathon 13 into 14 into 15 to really appreciate this episode. The action was nice, but all in all, it didn't give the same feel as it did in S1. |
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2008-01-14, 19:49 | Link #120 | ||||
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That last passage reminded me of Haruhi. Heh. But in all seriousness, I guess everything is plot, and I'm just arguing that this is very hollow and boring plot. To me, it was just reiterating everything we already knew, save that something is wrong with the Reiju Maigu. Quote:
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I'm sorry. I kind of forgot that ASuki isn't like the other boards I've been to, where people tended to argue with me just because they wanted to argue with me so that they could trip me up on one little thing and use it to discredit my entire argument. I'm just not really used to having an argument to somebody who actually believes their side of the story, rather than trying to play the devil's advocate in order to make me feel terrible. For my accusations, I'm sorry.
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