2013-02-14, 14:09 | Link #12061 | |
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and by the way, this arc maybe not the last one. we still do not know what nienami is and her past.why do she help zenkichi that much and we cannot forget about medaka too, what is her reaction when she know that she lost completely. not like when she lost again zenkichi in the election, this time she lost completely after she giving it her all and she was the one who decided the rule of the duel. And one more, Medaka said that she exist in order to bring everyone happiness and try to befriend them right, what about nienami? medaka's next target would be nienami in this case because nienami is the one who play the important role to help them all by transfering her skill to zenkich,medaka would not like it if she have a debt from the most useless person in the world(as stated by zenkichi). |
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2013-02-14, 14:15 | Link #12063 |
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Considering the strength of charcters Medaka has fought post Tsurubami, yeah... Also it's not really a proper fighting mode, it's more of Medaka simply underestimating her oponents. Basically it's back when Medaka was on a power trip and simply wanted to fight.
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2013-02-14, 15:29 | Link #12064 |
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I wonder if Zenkichi's now gonna do a bizarre combination system like Kamone.
Devil Style + Contradictory Conjunction + Model Zenkichi? A skill that negates the whims of fate + A Style that manipulates paradoxes + A skill that lets you perceive your own limits. Dosen't seem to match, really. That is, assuming the dude still has Devil Style, which is a bit unlikely.
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2013-02-14, 15:38 | Link #12065 | |
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Because that would explain why no one has mentioned it since. yes I'm still mad about that forty chapters later |
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2013-02-14, 15:50 | Link #12066 |
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My own theory is what happened to Killing Impulse (Munakata's abnormality) happened to Devil Style.
Kei lost it after he committed murder and found it boring. Devil Style was acquired by Zenkichi when he wanted to beat Medaka. When he did beat Medaka and saw her crawling on the floor as a result, he lost the desire to beat her. Hence it disappeared just like Kei's abnormality. |
2013-02-14, 15:51 | Link #12067 | |
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It shouldn't work that way, though it's a reasonable enough explanation, sure. |
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2013-02-14, 16:08 | Link #12068 | |
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Yeah, there are plenty of throwaway characters like those in GLK who seem to have completely random skills, but it's precisely because they're throwaway characters that it's hard to say that they don't have anything to do with their personality. |
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2013-02-14, 16:16 | Link #12069 |
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I kinda also subscribe to the notion that personal skills are manifestations of the character's personality.
For instance, out of all of Anshin's skills, only two would work with Kumagawa's personality. And I don't think it's any coincidence that Parasite Seeing was a match for Zenkichi, given that one of his quintessential traits is understanding the feelings of others(why he's so fit to use a style). Nishio just kinda forgot about Devil Style, it's all.
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2013-02-14, 17:02 | Link #12070 |
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While Skills are probablu manifestations, that seems to be limited to inate skills, at this point we have several characters who have acquired skills with no real personality change or signifcant effects, Medaka has acquired dozens Hinokage has had his changed, Kumagawa's acquired another one etc. Zenkichi could have had any skill he wanted, and Aijimu implied he had no limit meaning his personality wasn't limiting his choice. Minus' are more strongly linked to personality the story seems to imply with plus a much weaker link if at all. The only plus that was implied to be personality based was also stated to be the closest one to that of a minus.
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2013-02-14, 17:06 | Link #12071 |
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Hm, you bring-up some good points. .
Actually, I think Ajimu has used the term "Personal Skill" to describe Devil Style, so maybe those are the type of skills which are manifestations of the person themselves? Here: Spoiler:
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2013-02-14, 17:24 | Link #12073 | |
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Probably because Parasite Seeing kinda became redundant for the Zenkichi after Anshin. He didn't really need a Plus to see the feelings of others anymore(not that he ever truly did, he always felt wrong using that skill).
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2013-02-14, 17:36 | Link #12076 | |
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And again is gonna be the same with the Contradictory Conjuction Style, he's only using it only one time and to achieve one really important goal. Because he needs it, he needs Nienami's style. If there were no need, he would not resort to it. |
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2013-02-14, 17:40 | Link #12077 | |
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Devil Style in that fate-fucking way, Contradictory Conjunction in his extraordinarily normal ability to communicate and understand your fellow humans, and Model Zenkichi in the understanding of one's own limits(Hmm, I feel an Itachi reference here). Sorta deep, when you think about it. Edit: I can't be the only one who thought of this; Spoiler:
"Come on! Beat down that evildoer who disturbed our public morals, Hitoyoshi-kun!" "You stood up! Go! It's morphing time!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wt6XlVob_E
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2013-02-14, 22:03 | Link #12078 |
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Joutou is lisping again, good I liked that about her. Hope she survives in the end.
Can't help but notice that the Contradictory Conjunction Style focuses relies on using the word "therefore" (dakarakoso) And that word is similar to Kei's catchphase "So I'll kill you" (Dakara Korosu) Hmmmm............... |
2013-02-14, 22:11 | Link #12079 |
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More proof for Zen x Kei.
Regardless, It's interesting to note that Zenkichi was hearing the words of his friends while he was dead, but couldn't recognize the voices. After, he suffered an auditory hallucination like the one while he was dead, where his friends talked about the current situation, but could recognize the voices. I wonder the meaning of this...
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2013-02-15, 01:00 | Link #12080 | |
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Medaka's learned dozens of skills, yes. But she's also changed her personality many times over. She went from a complete pacifist who wouldn't even dodge attacks to a battle-crazy berserker and everything in between. Her entire character arc is that she didn't know who she wanted to be and she keeps imitating people or following their advice. They've made this clear from the very first arc. Thus, it only makes sense that she can use everyone else's skills. Using everyone else's skills is simply who she is. Kumagawa got a new skill. So? He also got a renewed burst of motivation. Ajimu told him that maybe wanting to win and being able to win are the same thing, something he's never believed. Did he really take that to heart? I don't know. "Unskilled" is something that suits the reformed Kumagawa anyway though. Zenkichi could have any skill he wanted. As in, he could only pick skills he would want. His available options are limited by his personality. The skills he receives are only those that come from his personality. |
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