Log Horizon - Episode 25 [END of Season 1] Discussion / Poll

[Entravity]

Phew, bits of foreshadowing, a very interesting new character, and a grand design greater than going back to their world. This will be a heck of a continuation.

[J4n1]

If that was aimed at me (and i don't see anyone else having anything but praise to hand out), i am not complaining about the art or animation.

[Netto Azure]

Naw it was not. Its just a general observation over the past 2 seasons. Most of the complaints (Other than general plot disinterest) has been over the animation.

[Flower]

Just so everyone knows a season 2 thread has been created in the subforum here as per request - please feel free to talk about it in that thread!

[Krono]

Originally Posted by aohige

I don't even know why people are worried about.
Mamare wrote 7 novels in less than 4 years.
It averages out to 1 every half a year, and we're expecting volume 8 anytime now. Like soon.

So we have:

Volume 6
Volume 7
Volume 8 (likely out within the month)
1 volume of oversea gaiden (but crucially part of main story)

And if volume 8 comes out within the month, we can expect volume 9 around Fall.

It would be well into 2015 before the Season 2 reach the volume 9 content.

See? Everything's perfectly laid out, as long as nothing happens to Mamare.
We would likely have five volumes worth of content for Fall season, at the very least four volumes.

There's a few problems with that logic. First of all, the release dates for volumes 1-7 look like this:

Log Horizon 1 March 31, 2011
Log Horizon 2 May 30, 2011
Log Horizon 3 August 31, 2011
Log Horizon 4 September 30, 2011
Log Horizon 5 November 30, 2011
Log Horizon 6 March 30, 2013
Log Horizon 7 December 20, 2013

So, we are not exactly guaranteed a steady release, or the release of volume 8, much less a volume 9 in the time before the second season starts.

Second, for volumes 1-7, the author posted sections of his draft online as he worked on them. He has not yet posted anything for volume 8, so he's likely tied up with other things, or still doing research for it. In short, he hasn't started actually writing it yet, so we aren't likely to get volume 8 until this fall.

Third, as for the side story, it's still just in webnovel form. It has not been edited for publishing, and the story itself is incomplete. So I doubt they'd adapt it in any substantial way.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Krono

There's a few problems with that logic. First of all, the release dates for volumes 1-7 look like this:

Log Horizon 1 March 31, 2011
Log Horizon 2 May 30, 2011
Log Horizon 3 August 31, 2011
Log Horizon 4 September 30, 2011
Log Horizon 5 November 30, 2011
Log Horizon 6 March 30, 2013
Log Horizon 7 December 20, 2013

So, we are not exactly guaranteed a steady release, or the release of volume 8, much less a volume 9 in the time before the second season starts.

Second, for volumes 1-7, the author posted sections of his draft online as he worked on them. He has not yet posted anything for volume 8, so he's likely tied up with other things, or still doing research for it. In short, he hasn't started actually writing it yet, so we aren't likely to get volume 8 until this fall.

Third, as for the side story, it's still just in webnovel form. It has not been edited for publishing, and the story itself is incomplete. So I doubt they'd adapt it in any substantial way.

I know it was not consistent, I'm talking average.
Besides, the reason for long blank between 5 and 6 is because the 1st part of LH ended with 5, and 6 kicked off the 2nd part. In fact, the gaiden was actually originally planned to be part of the main set.

And you don't know if he "hasn't started writing yet". He serializes, but does not mean he has no stock ahead. Mamare suddently went quiet on tweet he was very active on, for the past 3 weeks. He came back just yesterday, and many speculate he was working on volume 8. (Also, volume 8 IS planned for this year, not only did he state this, it's in the last volume which I have the physical copy right here in my hand)

You seriously don't think he just "writes as he goes" do you?? I've been following the novel online, and he does mention what the plan is, what's ahead, so it's quite obvious the serialization is actually completely planned ahead. The chapters posted aren't really real-time, but rather, posted as they are refined for publishing standard.

Also keep in mind, this is his biggest gig EVER so far. With the current success of LH, Mamare is under much more pressure than ever before to pump out content in time for NHK's schedule. Mamare is a fast writer, there's no reason we should be paranoid that he won't have the content available.

We should worry about the THIRD season if anything, since there's no escaping that there's going to be a rather long blank between season 2 and 3.

[J4n1]

Originally Posted by Netto Azure

Naw it was not. Its just a general observation over the past 2 seasons. Most of the complaints (Other than general plot disinterest) has been over the animation.

Ok then.
The animations and Art have been fairly mediocre, but personally i'm not that fuzzed about it as the story is what is most important.
I assume they have to keep a low budget as this is not likely to be a huge cash cow.

[~Yami~]

woaaaahhh....
I won't go in details... but I'll rate Log Horizon = 10/10
perfect show for me as anime-only watcher

that's a crazily intense moment between Shiroe and Nureha... finally we could find someone Shiroe can consider as his opposite...
Shiroe and Nureha showdown would be magnificent
She is truly a strong contender for Shiroe's harem... Akatsuki-chan! beware!

I wonder what Shiroe means with leaving Akiba.... I hope he would bring all Log Horizon members with him...
judging from the preview, maybe they would go to Suzukino

Mahou Shoujo Akatsuki.... not bad!

next season please... NEXT SEASON!!!

[ACDNeo]

Originally Posted by Krono

There's a few problems with that logic. First of all, the release dates for volumes 1-7 look like this:

Log Horizon 1 March 31, 2011
Log Horizon 2 May 30, 2011
Log Horizon 3 August 31, 2011
Log Horizon 4 September 30, 2011
Log Horizon 5 November 30, 2011
Log Horizon 6 March 30, 2013
Log Horizon 7 December 20, 2013

where are maouyuu books??

[kache]

Originally Posted by aohige

Pretty much all the details of Nureha's past was omitted from the anime episode.
The sexual nature of it was too risque for NHK-E, obviously.

The last part also felt VERY rushed and many things didn't make sense. They skipped quite a lot of info there, didn't they?

[Village Idiot]

Originally Posted by ACDNeo

can't be helped, NHK cutout all the "negative" elements, and softened everything, it's sad, but at least we'll have Second Season (anyway 25 eps with 3 vols? that doesn't seems right)

This

There was no way in hell they could have animated the original scene from the LN.

[kache]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

This

There was no way in hell they could have animated the original scene from the LN.

Would you mind providing a synopsis of the original scene for us people that only watched the anime, please?

[ACDNeo]

Originally Posted by kache

Would you mind providing a synopsis of the original scene for us people that only watched the anime, please?

Read here

Vol5 interlude

or go to ask in novel section

[Divini]

Spoiler for LN comparision of Nureha:

I kind of expected the production team to downplay Nureha's background and her past (irl). This episode made her seem like a lonely obsessive stalker (which she is), but it doesn't stop there. It didn't even go into how her mother kind of 'sold her off' to old men and how she gained notoriety as a prostitute (which further darkened her personality) and that she used her skills in that (with the proper subclass) in her rise to power of Plant Hwyaden. She's far more messed up than the anime makes her out to be.... being Nureha is suffering.

With that said, I loved the way the episode ended. Giving all of LH one last fight scene, one last Akatsuki knee to the face, a shot of a certain individual lurking in Akiba, and that stinger after the credits. Bring on season 2!

[kache]

Originally Posted by ACDNeo

Read here

Vol5 interlude

or go to ask in novel section

Thank you.

[kache]

Could anyone explain the reasoning behind Shirow deciding that becoming Nureha's enemy was a better choice than working WITH her, please?

[Netto Azure]

Competition between two groups leads to advances faster than a despotic universalist one.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by ACDNeo

Read here

Vol5 interlude

or go to ask in novel section

Thanks

Originally Posted by Divini

Spoiler for LN comparision of Nureha:

I kind of expected the production team to downplay Nureha's background and her past (irl). This episode made her seem like a lonely obsessive stalker (which she is), but it doesn't stop there. It didn't even go into how her mother kind of 'sold her off' to old men and how she gained notoriety as a prostitute (which further darkened her personality) and that she used her skills in that (with the proper subclass) in her rise to power of Plant Hwyaden. She's far more messed up than the anime makes her out to be.... being Nureha is suffering.

With that said, I loved the way the episode ended. Giving all of LH one last fight scene, one last Akatsuki knee to the face, a shot of a certain individual lurking in Akiba, and that stinger after the credits. Bring on season 2!

Apparently that didn't even make it in the novel translation above.
Though I kinda guessed how she got the nobles behind her already... aehm wait... unintended inuendo, sorry oO.

Too bad SHiroe, decided to make Crusty appear, he could have polished his image if he wanted therre - well at least Lenessia (or better said her maid) got it now.

Either way can't wait for season 2.

[Benigmatica]

Originally Posted by ACDNeo

Read here

Vol5 interlude

or go to ask in novel section

Well, I get the gist of her backstory. But, should Nureha say that she's just an ugly girl instead of being plain in the TV adaptation?

Being just ugly is fine than being more than that.

[The Green One]

Having a backstory like that tends to cause someone to not have the most healthy self esteem around. I'd say that calling themself ugly would be perfectly in character for that backstory.