(L) The Place Promised in our Early Days - Beyond the Clouds

[vuori]

Originally Posted by vuori

I was re-watching this recently, and I was wondering if anyone knows what the book is that Sawatari is reciting from at the beginning of the movie (in the classroom)? Is it the same book that Hiroki is reading on the train near the end (Kenji Miyazawa's Spring and Asura)?

To reply to my own posting, the poem is indeed by K. Miyazawa. A complete version is here: http://www.home.ix.netcom.com/~kyama...awa_eiketu.htm.

[arkxkra]

wow..i just saw this anime 2day, its awesome...nice !
i want to ask is the person (when the movie start that guy...) , is he a hiroki?
quite confuse...

[Kensuke]

Originally Posted by arkxkra

wow..i just saw this anime 2day, its awesome...nice !
i want to ask is the person (when the movie start that guy...) , is he a hiroki?
quite confuse...

Yes, several years older thought.

[AdamantHand]

... delete this for all i care

[qtipbrit]

Go watch 5 Centimeters per Second.
NAO.

No seriously, you'll like it. It's been hailed as Makoto Shinkai's greatest work so far, and I think so as well. Somewhat of a more realistic and touching remake of Voices of a Distant Star with updated music (very much so.), animation (even moreso.), etc.
And I have a pretty high opinion of Voices of a Distant Star too.

And to create discussion, has this novel I've heard about for The Place Promised in Our Early Days been translated and such? I'd like to get my hands on a copy.

And Makoto Shinkai and The Place Promised in Our Early Days are both quite well known, too.

EDIT: I found the previous thread as well, though it's a bit... outdated.

[germanturkey]

anyways, out of the three movies, this one is my least favorite (that's not to say i don't love it too though). i guess that the sci-fi was too weird in this one. even though it played off the aspect of distance like Shinkai's other works, this distance was a little strange for me. plus there's an ambiguity Sayuri that's been nagging at me.

still a great movie, i especially love the music. plus Waking Hour by Koop is one of the best AMVs i've seen. go dig it up.

Spoiler:

anyways, for that ambiguity, Hiroki goes back to the shed at the beginning of the movie and reflects on the events. (essentially the whole movie is a flashback if you missed that part). but that would imply that Sayuri died or left him after the events of the movie. maybe i've missed something in 4 years since i first saw it, but thats a pretty big hole in the plot to me.

the jet fighter scene and when their own jet circles the tower are among the most beautiful scenes i've seen animated. the other ones are Shinkai works as well.. haha

*points to title* this one gets a 9/10 from me, with his other two getting 10/10

[qtipbrit]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

i guess that the sci-fi was too weird in this one. even though it played off the aspect of distance like Shinkai's other works, this distance was a little strange for me. plus there's an ambiguity Sayuri that's been nagging at me.

I agree. The sci-fi element in Voices of a Distant Star were very minor, and weren't really influencing the actual plot much (I bet Shinkai just wanted some robots in his OVA.), though The Place Promised in our Early Days contained a lot of these scientific elements that may have made it difficult to follow.

Originally Posted by germanturkey

still a great movie, i especially love the music. plus Waking Hour by Koop is one of the best AMVs i've seen. go dig it up.

I found "Momentum" to be better than "Waking Hour", anything that comes out of Koopiskeva is amazing anyway. Somewhat like Makoto Shinkai, except with less Candy Pop.
haha.

And in case you want to know, I've rated Shinkai's works as such:
5 Centimeters per Second - 10
The Place Promised in our Early Days - 8
Voices of a Distant Star - 8

[germanturkey]

thread necro. so i have a question.

Spoiler:

does Saiyuri die? because as i remember, the story is a flashback. and she isn't there at the beginning when Takuya begins to recount everything

i don't have the dvd with me cause i'm at school.

[saed]

A long time ago, some english language writer said we should only be alowed to use the word beautiful just a few times in one life.

So Shinkai gets 3 of mine.

...saed

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

thread necro. so i have a question.

Spoiler:

does Saiyuri die? because as i remember, the story is a flashback. and she isn't there at the beginning when Takuya begins to recount everything

i don't have the dvd with me cause i'm at school.

Most of what was shown was a flashback, however when he's recounting everything, he hadn't met up with Saiyuri again. The tower was the last scene in the story chronologically.

[germanturkey]

ah, that makes sense now. thanks for clarifying that up.

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

ah, that makes sense now. thanks for clarifying that up.

It was a happy ending at last.

God the animation in this movie was unreal. I was floored by how much attention to detail there was.

[Thingle]

I just rewatched this film and I think that it has more meat than 5cm. A little bit less on romance, but more on that longing feeling.

[Solafighter]

Ah, by seeing this theard, i remember i have found a pretty well maded AMV.

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by Thingle

I just rewatched this film and I think that it has more meat than 5cm. A little bit less on romance, but more on that longing feeling.

I didnt care for 5cm. Especially when I did more research on the story. I have to deal with depressing stories everyday in real life. When I watch anime, I have to have a somewhat happy ending or the story is just crap to me.

Originally Posted by Solafighter

Ah, by seeing this theard, i remember i have found a pretty well maded AMV.

Thank you very much for posting this AMV for us to see. It's very well made.

[germanturkey]

ooh, that is a good one. i liked how the video effects pulsed along with the music..

here's one that i really enjoy a lot.

[justinstrife]

Ahhh the theme song for Gundam StarGazer. Very good choice I love that song.

[needtounderstand]

I just watched this after hearing some good reviews on it. ( i know im kinda late D. I watched it, but I don't really get it though...what happened in the end? When the girl sayuri woke up...it just pretty much ended right there and I'm like huh? I was lost throughout the whole movie pretty much, someone fill me in!! I wanna know why this movie is so good, then I can watch it again and get it maybe x.x I'm usually not this slow...

[ViewtifulAlchemist]

This was on my backlog for a long time after seeing 5cm a second and wanting to see other Makoto Shinkai works, but I too just recently finished it. As for the ending, what I understood and what I got out of the ending was:

Spoiler:

When Sayuri woke up all that time (a few years) she was in the coma and was still in contact with Hiroki through her dreams was lost which meant all those feelings she developed was lost too. That's why she was crying at the end because before she woke up she wanted to express to him she loved him but after waking up she didn't remember anything yet that overwhelming feeling of love was still there.

While it wasn't like she was meeting Hiroki for the first time there was still a huge time gap between when she was younger and Hiroki in his current age and the things he went through in his life while she was sleeping. Now it's almost like they were strangers again which lead into Hiroki's "We the lost the place of our promise in this world....even so....our lives begin now." final line.

I'll appreciate it if someone could confirm I'm somewhere in the ballpark there but that's what I got out of the ending heh.

So far, I've seen 5cm a second, Voice of the Distant Star and this. At the moment 5cm a second is still my favorite but I think Voice of the Distant Star might top it once I read the manga version of it. 30min was too short of time to really feel anything for the characters or situation in it.

[germanturkey]

the manga really supplements the anime, iirc. there's stuff in it that isn't in the anime and vice versa. is best to consider them one thing.