[PS3/PSV] Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki

[Zakoo]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Spoiler for Spoilers:

I don't mind the mecha. Adds a different dimension to the game. I'm just miffed with the ending.

And hopefully we actually do get to choose his waifu in the next game, unless of course the brocon route is the default way lol. I've read the starter spoilers to SnKII so at least I know Class 7 makes it out of that cliffhanger.

Spoiler for about wifu, read at your own risk:

Spoiler for seriously no regret bro ?:

you don't choose Rin's waifu, there's only one waifu and sidekicks female chara. You can only choose whether to go waifu route or sidekick route.

Btw to make this game faster I greatly advise you to have Laura in your team with the orb "path of conqueror" ( or something like that). You can find this orb at the same place you are at the very very beginning of the game ( meaning the place of the flashback), don't miss it, it's a vital one.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Zakoo

Btw to make this game faster I greatly advise you to have Laura in your team with the orb "path of conqueror" ( or something like that). You can find this orb at the same place you are at the very very beginning of the game ( meaning the place of the flashback), don't miss it, it's a vital one.

Are you perhaps thinking of the [Domination] quartz? The one that deals x2 damage for your character's first attack/craft?

[Se7enSword]

Yeah, that's what he's referring to.

[Zakoo]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Are you perhaps thinking of the [Domination] quartz? The one that deals x2 damage for your character's first attack/craft?

Yes exactly, that's exactly why I don't translate LN lol.

You can go Rean doing his motivation art and follow with Laura doing the whirlpool/vortex Art. Next fight

[Chaos2Frozen]

So just to clarify something of the overall story

Spoiler for Everything After Chapter 5:

So the events of Cold Steel takes place at the same time as Zero/Ao? So whatever superweapon that Crossbell used on the Fortress and all that would be covered by Zero/Ao games?

Also going by the chart, TiTS isn't directly connected to this incident right? I mean, other than Ouroboro and Prince Olivert I guess

[Se7enSword]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

So just to clarify something of the overall story

Spoiler for Everything After Chapter 5:

So the events of Cold Steel takes place at the same time as Zero/Ao? So whatever superweapon that Crossbell used on the Fortress and all that would be covered by Zero/Ao games?

Also going by the chart, TiTS isn't directly connected to this incident right? I mean, other than Ouroboro and Prince Olivert I guess

Spoiler for spoiler:

Yes, Zero/Ao happens simultaneously with Cold Steel. Cold Steel goes slightly ahead in the timeline as the game progresses iirc

The Orchid tower stuff is indeed covered in Zero/Ao

Some TitS characters do appear in Zero/Ao

Yes, they don't play any direct part. The Sora/Sky cast is set to appear in Akatsuki no Kiseki though!

[Von Himmel]

Faint and burst is a horrible combination. Really easy to build up bonus exp with that. I swear I didn't rack this much EXP back when I played the japanese version I mean, I'm pretty sure I didn't catch up to Angelica's level back when I first played it before..

Finally reached Final Chapter now after all that procrastinating I'll probably end up reaching level 67-68 like my usual 1st playthrough run at the end though since I'll probably won't be able to build up much multiplier in the final dungeon.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Se7enSword

Spoiler for spoiler:

Yes, Zero/Ao happens simultaneously with Cold Steel. Cold Steel goes slightly ahead in the timeline as the game progresses iirc

The Orchid tower stuff is indeed covered in Zero/Ao

Some TitS characters do appear in Zero/Ao

Yes, they don't play any direct part. The Sora/Sky cast is set to appear in Akatsuki no Kiseki though!

So how different is the old TitS games compared to Cold Steel in terms of gameplay mechanics? (Not Evo, cause FC on Vita is just the original)

Ideally I should play Zero/Ao but that's not an option atm.

[marvelB]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

So how different is the old TitS games compared to Cold Steel in terms of gameplay mechanics? (Not Evo, cause FC on Vita is just the original)

Ideally I should play Zero/Ao but that's not an option atm.

It's not really much different, to be honest. I guess the biggest differences are that you don't attack monsters on the field before battle (that's something that was first introduced in Zero), and the orbment system is a bit simpler compared to more recent titles (for instance, Master Quartz is something that was first introduced in Ao with the Enigma II system). Otherwise, it's mostly the same.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Hmmm I see, well if my gaming schedule allows it I'll see if I can try them out.

[cloud04]

also quick question, do i need to buy the other ones for plotline? or just alone is fine?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by cloud04

also quick question, do i need to buy the other ones for plotline? or just alone is fine?

There are some references but Cold Steel is mostly self contain.

I too have never played the other Legend of Heroes games and started out with this first.

[Se7enSword]

Originally Posted by marvelB

It's not really much different, to be honest. I guess the biggest differences are that you don't attack monsters on the field before battle (that's something that was first introduced in Zero), and the orbment system is a bit simpler compared to more recent titles (for instance, Master Quartz is something that was first introduced in Ao with the Enigma II system). Otherwise, it's mostly the same.

I wouldn't call it simple. It's much more tactical as you combine orbments to use a spell instead of say, an orbment in CS granting a spell or an atk+spell combo.

And yes, no master quartz and instead of each line allowing you to equip different status affecting quartz, lines are very important here as you try to mix and match quartz.

[Alza]

Currently playing the game, and just got to chapter 5's school half. Honestly the game has been very fun so far, and it's pretty comfortable. I am glad I am playing in the PS3, since if the slowdowns are a bit bad here, I can't imagine how bad they would be in the Vita.

I do have to say that the English dub for the game is pretty good, they really knocked it out of the park with their choices and direction. The best part of the game is the feeling of you getting to know Erebonia as a country, to know its problems and its people and I just feel the setting is coming alive in a way that it hasn't in other JRPGs.

To be honest, I was a bit hesitating starting the game due to the highschool setting, but over time it won me over, since you honestly spend little time in highschool. Class VII quickly developed as characters, and by now I like all of them, even Alisa who I feel the game pushes too much.

Overall the game has been really interesting so far, and makes me want to pick the Sky games after I finish this one.

[Chaos2Frozen]

The Vita would just die at certain scenes with alot of things going on in Chapter 4.

Still, that suspense and resume function for the Vita is pretty godlike for games like these.

[Alza]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Still, that suspense and resume function for the Vita is pretty godlike for games like these.

I can imagine, sometimes I wish I could just take the game with me everywhere so I could play more of it instead of having to play it from the couch.

Anyhow, currently finished the first day of the trip for Chapter 5, the duel with Laura's dad was great, and I hope the day comes where Rean learns to control his edgy berserk form. You know, I really love traveling around Erebonia in this game, each region really feels unique and overall it feels like the region is unique but it still feels like one country.

[ThereminVox]

Really taking my time with this one, knowing that it'll be at least several months before there's even hope of seeing ToCS II in NA.

I just finished chapter 4 and finally saw the game bumping up against the Vita's hardware limits. Nothing gameplay-related, but some pretty glaring frame-rate issues during some talking scenes in busy areas. To be honest though, the only reason I noticed was because of the text scroll hitching. Otherwise, I've been very pleased with the handheld version. Suspend helps when you need to step away but you're in the middle of a long scene.

[Iron Maw]

Alright! Just started Ch4! (yes I'm slow, RL really sucks sometimes )

Spoiler for ToCS & TiTS stuff:

I certainly did not expect to meets Zechs in Nord. I know after TiTS:SC it was foregone conclusion that we would him again, but not like in the outskirts of nowhere. I wonder if he's still working with Oliver/Olivert in the later's plans? Eitheway always a treat to see callbacks like that.

That aside, I really loved the music in Ancient Quarry, it adds to haunted and eerie nature of that place.

BTW, for anyone playing anyone who has played PC version TiTS: SC or the japanese version of ToCS, I got a question: is Neolitic Era = Ancient Zemuria Civilization right?

Originally Posted by Alza

Anyhow, currently finished the first day of the trip for Chapter 5, the duel with Laura's dad was great, and I hope the day comes where Rean learns to control his edgy berserk form. You know, I really love traveling around Erebonia in this game, each region really feels unique and overall it feels like the region is unique but it still feels like one country.

Yep! It's the same with Liberl in TiTS. It's because have such indepth world building that isn't just skin deep. You will appreciate all the little and big deals and connections when play all the games even more.

Originally Posted by ThereminVox

Really taking my time with this one, knowing that it'll be at least several months before there's even hope of seeing ToCS II in NA.

I just finished chapter 4 and finally saw the game bumping up against the Vita's hardware limits. Nothing gameplay-related, but some pretty glaring frame-rate issues during some talking scenes in busy areas. To be honest though, the only reason I noticed was because of the text scroll hitching. Otherwise, I've been very pleased with the handheld version. Suspend helps when you need to step away but you're in the middle of a long scene.

PS3 has some nasty framerate issue from time to time too. Usually when there a lot objects and on screen during a cut-scene. It just tanks. Thankfully it's infrequent not to be a huge issue.

[Se7enSword]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Alright! Just started Ch4! (yes I'm slow, RL really sucks sometimes )

Spoiler for ToCS & TiTS stuff:

I certainly did not expect to meets Zechs in Nord. I know after TiTS:SC it was foregone conclusion that we would him again, but not like in the outskirts of nowhere. I wonder if he's still working with Oliver/Olivert in the later's plans? Eitheway always a treat to see callbacks like that.

That aside, I really loved the music in Ancient Quarry, it adds to haunted and eerie nature of that place.

BTW, for anyone playing anyone who has played PC version TiTS: SC or the japanese version of ToCS, I got a question: is Neolitic Era = Ancient Zemuria Civilization right?

Yep! It's the same with Liberl in TiTS. It's because have such indepth world building that isn't just skin deep. You will appreciate all the little and big deals and connections when play all the games even more.

PS3 has some nasty framerate issue from time to time too. Usually when there a lot objects and on screen during a cut-scene. It just tanks. Thankfully it's infrequent not to be a huge issue.

Yeah, it's ancient zemuria civilization.

[Iron Maw]

Ah, so they did change the term from TiTS then. It was really bothering me because I had no idea what they ere referring to since the only one that existed 1,200 years ago. Thanks for that!