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Old 2010-10-02, 22:22   Link #2621
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When's it coming out?

Come on SnH for once obliterate those damned flamehazes....it's just Alastor left....
November 10

Wonder if we will see Alastor vs SoF?
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Old 2010-10-02, 22:23   Link #2622
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November 10

Wonder if we will see Alastor vs SoF?
Exactly one month after Index 22 then.....ah great year for light novel diehards.
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Old 2010-10-03, 00:55   Link #2623
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November 10

Wonder if we will see Alastor vs SoF?
Its either

Shana vs SoF or Alastor vs SoF, it really depends on how the situation goes...
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Old 2010-10-03, 01:02   Link #2624
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Basically, Alastor can manifest itself in its true form without sacrificing Shana. Thus, an ultimate showdown between Alastor and SoF is possible.
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Old 2010-10-03, 01:18   Link #2625
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After fighting with Yuji Shana may be a bit too exhausted to go right into a battle with SoF. Plus if the Flame Haze army has been defeated she would be fighting not only SoF but the Crimson Denizen army as well I don't see Shana beating them all by herself.
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Old 2010-10-03, 02:31   Link #2626
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I just read through Summary of Volume 20 nicely composed by Elf song to refresh my memory a bit.

Basically at the end of that volume, the Flame Hazes are retreating to Hong Kong. In contrast, it is mentioned in the preview of Volume 21 that the Flame Haze Army has been defeated. It seems that there is an unknown gap between these two events. They are only retreating, and they are not completely deleted, right?

Guess that we need to wait for the release of the Volume 21 to know the exact happening.

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In the author notes in novel 20 it said the next novel would be the first part of the finale.
Thanks for your tips. All of us here, just keep your fingers crossed! We should have to get to about Volume 24, as speculated earlier by other posters in this thread.
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Old 2010-10-03, 04:04   Link #2627
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Yeah, many (but not that many, though) Flame Haze survived this war and most of our main Flame Haze are still alive; Shana, Margery, Wilhelmina, Khamsin, Rebecca, Sale, Chiara, Sophie, Francoise, Ernest, Hildegard, Dan and EastEdge. (since CenterHill said that other "Four Gods" will participate in this war too)

This time Misaki City would become a ground zero.
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Old 2010-10-03, 10:13   Link #2628
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I guess Bal Masque has dominated this entire war so far. SoF downfall will probably begin with him losing his control over Yuji.

I know most of the main Flame Haze who are still alive except for Francoise, Ernest, Hildegard, and Dan.

Hmm I wonder what the final opponent match ups will be?
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Old 2010-10-03, 17:59   Link #2629
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I guess Bal Masque has dominated this entire war so far. SoF downfall will probably begin with him losing his control over Yuji.

I know most of the main Flame Haze who are still alive except for Francoise, Ernest, Hildegard, and Dan.

Hmm I wonder what the final opponent match ups will be?
Well it could be that Yuji is starting to realize that SotF's goals is not what Shana really wants either way, and may begin to resist him. Remember, Yuji is slow to understand so thats probably why it took him so long?
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Old 2010-10-04, 03:25   Link #2630
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Well technically Yuji did what he did (ie kidnapping Shana, and attempting in making a new world) even knowing Shana didn't want this... but Yuji still went ahead with SoF's plans since he believes it's for the best for both the world and Shana.

My guess is Yuji will only turn against SoF is Shana is ever in life-threatening danger due to SoF's direct order/action. Though how he can stop SoF's plans now that the Creator God's real body is now on Earth I have no idea...
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Old 2010-10-04, 03:57   Link #2631
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ok after watching the last OVA pls pls pls spoil me

i dont have the novel but why did yuuji leave shana or pls explain why are they meeting again or

is that the silver the seocnd or Yuuji himself or the merge form of both?
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Old 2010-10-04, 05:44   Link #2632
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ok after watching the last OVA pls pls pls spoil me

i dont have the novel but why did yuuji leave shana or pls explain why are they meeting again or

is that the silver the seocnd or Yuuji himself or the merge form of both?
If you look through this thread you'll find it.... but.. from what i understand (i know what your going through bcs i went through that phase) at the end of 2nd season as yuji is going to either shana or the other girl??? (sorry i forgot her name) he meets SoF which informs him about his plans for a better world. Thus, he dissapears and both shana and the other girl never get picked. Eventually he comes back but he is different and shana confronts him and.... he informs her that she is his love interest but its very difficult scene because it constrast between what he says and... what he does. I hope that helps,, but thats my understanding... There are other people on this site with better understanding bcs they read the novels.

Oh and quick question, when is the next novel suppose to come out???
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Old 2010-10-04, 05:59   Link #2633
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If you look through this thread you'll find it.... but.. from what i understand (i know what your going through bcs i went through that phase) at the end of 2nd season as yuji is going to either shana or the other girl??? (sorry i forgot her name) he meets SoF which informs him about his plans for a better world. Thus, he dissapears and both shana and the other girl never get picked. Eventually he comes back but he is different and shana confronts him and.... he informs her that she is his love interest but its very difficult scene because it constrast between what he says and... what he does. I hope that helps,, but thats my understanding... There are other people on this site with better understanding bcs they read the novels.

Oh and quick question, when is the next novel suppose to come out???
yes i have looked at every post and somehow your speculation or rather explanation is right on

GOD they really know how to add plot twist hahaha
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Old 2010-10-04, 08:16   Link #2634
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Well technically Yuji did what he did (ie kidnapping Shana, and attempting in making a new world) even knowing Shana didn't want this... but Yuji still went ahead with SoF's plans since he believes it's for the best for both the world and Shana.

My guess is Yuji will only turn against SoF is Shana is ever in life-threatening danger due to SoF's direct order/action. Though how he can stop SoF's plans now that the Creator God's real body is now on Earth I have no idea...
Yuji could just destroy SoF's Treasure Tools he needs to change the world, but since he originally created the Hariden he could probably make another one. Maybe it would set his plans back a little bit anyways or from being merged with SoF he might have found some weakness to his power.

Anyone know if Yuji's current outfit is a part of SoF like Shana's coat is a part of Alastor?

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Old 2010-10-05, 09:37   Link #2635
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Yeah Yuuji's current outfit mirrors Shana when she transforms into her flamehaze form
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Old 2010-10-10, 07:17   Link #2636
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Heres the cover picture for XXI.

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Old 2010-10-10, 11:35   Link #2637
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Heres the cover picture for XXI.

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Shana has a new outfit o.o.. and she looks angry for some reason.
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Old 2010-10-10, 11:42   Link #2638
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Shana has a new outfit o.o.. and she looks angry for some reason.
I can't imagine why.
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Old 2010-10-10, 14:52   Link #2639
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she looks....injured, maybe something will happen to her left arm?
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Old 2010-10-10, 14:58   Link #2640
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she looks....injured, maybe something will happen to her left arm?
Probably having to fight all the Tomogaras, and Snake of the Festival all by herself.
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