2013-09-22, 02:51 | Link #9325 | |
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There is no actual information stating conclusively one way or the other. So saying it's impossible is just conjecture on your part. Fact is the Freedom is using technology hundreds of years more advanced than anything that we have right now meaning we can't judge it by today's standards. A few hundred years ago people thought it was impossible to go into space or get to the moon but now it is a regular thing. It's not possible for us to understand and the creators aren't rocket scientists. This is just an anime after all. Kira backed off and stopped following because that was what Lacus wanted. Whether The Freedom can or cannot is irrelevant after that.
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So, again, if Freedom (and to some extend, Justice) can go to space on its own, that “panic aspect” of ORB escape event shouldn’t happen, but it did. Then the writer in Destiny messed-up by making Freedom look like possessing space-rocket ability (assuming you chose to believe it) considering no amount of inner-upgrade can make a thin humanoid MS go to space in CE (you have to attach appropriate boosters like already shown by Strike Rouge). Hell, if you wanna go extreme-crazy in CE-verse, look no further than Astray mangas. Yet, no MS in Astray can go to space on its own without additional boosters or other ouside equipments which Freedom clearly didn’t have in that shuttle scene in Destiny. So, no matter what you believe (whether or not Freedom can go on its own), it is bad writing on both ends on Destiny’s part. Quote:
There's one more, Rising: Wing Gundam. In the final episodes of Gundam Wing, Lady Une woke up from coma and directly took the damn thing from a hangar on earth and flew it straight to space to help her beloved Treize Kushrenada in Tallgeese II. Yes, Lady Une is a Gundam pilot!
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2013-09-22, 03:25 | Link #9327 |
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The strike rouge is an older model with an inferior and limited power source. The battle of Orb was a dangerous situation though. They were being chased and if just they were left behind after making sure that the ships got away would've been dangerous since they would have the enemy forces focused on them alone. To get the thrust and adjustments needed while being attacked from all sides would've been impossible.
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That could be debated Obelisk as we never see the Wing Gundam launch. We only get Lady Une's big damn heroes moment saving Treize. While there is an implication, it can't be 100% proven.
As for the current debate. I have a question concerning the Freedoms fuel capacity. In Seed it traveled from the Plants to Joshua Alaska nonstop without refueling. At least that's my impression anyway. Though it does raise the question of how far away the Plants truly are from Earth. Because if they're far enough say the distance from the Earth to the moon. Than unless Kira/Freedom refueled along the way and we just didn't see it for the sake of dramatics. Than fuel supply wouldn't be an issue I'd think. Or at least as big of one anyway. |
2013-09-22, 03:34 | Link #9329 | |
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That said, as I said before, just because the Freedom (and Justice) can do it, doesn't mean they have to. If the Freedom and Justice can get a free ride from a mass driver-accelerated Kusanagi, then why not? And as shown, they can then focus on firing back at the Biological CPUs chasing them. Of course, the other possibility is an upgrade. And as far as them messing up in the technology department as compared to the real world, I have no problem with people choosing to interpret it that way. But the implication in the story still stands, though, that Kira intended to follow Lacus with the Freedom to space. No amount of real-world science is going to change that. |
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I'm not even talking about real-world science. I just took all the limitation created in CE's own universe before that shuttle event (and after, in the case of some Astray mangas) into consideration, and the result is still bad writing no matter what you chose to believe regarding Freedom's "space-rocket" ability .
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@obelisk I know just pointing out that there is a modicum of doubt in play as to how Wing got into space. And while they where super powered, they could still be damaged/destroyed. |
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monster is pretty much completely incapable of seeing bad in SEED. All of his actions point to him vehemently believing that there is not a single thing wrong with SEED, that every little detail was just as planned and that the whole damn show was flawless. And the thing is, he pretty much makes any reasonable debate about SEED impossible if someone says something negative about it or points out a flaw or inconsistency. God forbid SEED isn't less than perfect!
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2013-09-22, 16:11 | Link #9338 | |
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The bottom line is this: Just because the show has problems doesn't negate what it is showing us. Ex: That the Freedom going to space on its own may be unrealistic (which obviously is a problem for certain members of the audience) doesn't mean that it can't. You can say that this makes the show flawed, but you can't outright dismiss it if it is part of the show, whether specifically shown or implied. So, please, just stop trying to make this into an argument on whether Destiny is flawed or not. I'm only interested in discussing what happens in the show. |
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At least my "reason" is still based on what we see on the show. What's your reason to dismiss it? That it doesn't conform to real-life science? |
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