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Homura7 · 2011-11-03, 13:24

I'm 99% sure Shirley lied. She probably saw that Luffy is the trigger for why Fishman Island will end up being destroyed.

Rawrz · 2011-11-03, 13:35

If Hody still lives after all these special attacks, his stamina must be Whitebeard/Blackbeard/Kuma/Lucci level.Too bad immortality alone wont do him any good.

marvelB · 2011-11-03, 14:26

^Actually, I'd say Hody's stamina is more comparable to Awakened Zoans (or Usopp/Spandam

) than the typical GL superpowers.....

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Originally Posted by noktown

I don't think there will be "time" involvements in this series,Oda's much better than that...

Why not? Frankly, DF powers in general defy logic as it is, so I see no reason why Oda couldn't make a time-based power work. Unless you think that Oda would suddenly pull a Bleach and have Blackbeard become some wacky troll of a villain like Aizen/Tsukishima? I already pointed out Jojo in my last post (as well as billions of times before then), which does an awesome job of handling time powers (well, not so much King Crimson, but that's a matter of personal taste).

Which reminds me: I pointed out the possibility of Blackbeard "evolving" his powers in a manner similar to Pucci in my last post. I now realize that the comparison is even more fitting since Teach, much like Pucci, also has a gravity-type power (even if the darkness fruit works differently from C-Moon).

Undertaker · 2011-11-03, 16:44

Ah, JoJo, that's an awesome series especially with its structure and concept of supernatural power Star Platinum is still my favorite stand.

Why can't we having "time" manipulation type of power?

I mean so far we already Bonney whose DF power seems to allow her to manipulate age, not to mention we are (potentially) hinted with the mention of tamatebako in this arc.

Homura7 · 2011-11-03, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Undertaker

I mean so far we already Bonney whose DF power seems to allow her to manipulate age, not to mention we are (potentially) hinted with the mention of tamatebako in this arc.

The Tamatebako is likely but very, very likely...

Spoiler for spoiler:

Randrak42 · 2011-11-03, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Adan

The Tamatebako is likely but very, very likely...

Spoiler for spoiler:

How can you say it's "very very likely" when the thing hasn't even been mentioned in a while...and what has been said about it relates to age alteration (not to mention the RL myth)

Actually betting it would be Bonney's DF, which she somehow got some time before.

Homura7 · 2011-11-03, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

How can you say it's "very very likely" when the thing hasn't even been mentioned in a while...and what has been said about it relates to age alteration (not to mention the RL myth)

Actually betting it would be Bonney's DF, which she somehow got some time before.

Simple. The box is called "Urashima Casket". Anyone who has read the tale knows how it relates to this ornament. Like I said in a previous post of mine, overdose makes you go old in exchange for huge amounts of strenght, or rather, it shaves your life away. And during Hody's flashback we can see how the white shark, still a royal soldier, takes out a bag full with something his comrades describe as "legendary".

Vander Decken's underlings were most likely misinformed. It relates to age alteration, yeah, but not in the way you expected at first. To me it makes perfect sense.

That said, this is just a theory for now, but I would be really surprised if it turned out to be something else. Anyway, it's just a matter of time before we get a definite answer.

Randrak42 · 2011-11-03, 20:14

They grow old because...their hair turns white?

Sure.........why not

aohige · 2011-11-03, 22:04

How about...

ES Pills give you enormous strength by aging you instantly, and giving you all the combined strength you WOULD have gained in those years you lost.
That way, the pills "shaving your life off" doesn't contradict either.

Eh? EH? (Metro-man impression)

BaKaBaKaOtaKu · 2011-11-03, 22:56

we're nearing the end of FI arc and i am still wondering if Noah's really something more than an ark. Hody's not down yet it seems. he's still got one desperate attack to come and luffy's just gonna own him again anyway. lol

and lastly, WTF?! ANOTHER BREAK??! HUH?! ok,ok, oda, i understand you need rest but it's so dull w/o a new OP chapter DX

..I'm excited about next arc. NEW WORLD, HERE WE GO!!!

Sazelyt · 2011-11-04, 01:11

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Originally Posted by BaKaBaKaOtaKu

we're nearing the end of FI arc and i am still wondering if Noah's really something more than an ark.

Considering that the great weapons of the past are getting erased from the history in one way or another, as the Strawhats get stronger, no need to worry about that part. Regardless of its original purpose, it will most likely be gone soon enough, opening a new era for everyone involved.

The Small One · 2011-11-04, 01:23

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Originally Posted by Undertaker

Why can't we having "time" manipulation type of power?

Didn't we already have this power? Remember Foxy…

Undertaker · 2011-11-04, 05:16

Good catch, I totally forgot about Foxy, his DF is in a sense a time manipulation power as well.

marvelB · 2011-11-04, 10:17

Foxy's power wasn't really a time-based one, though. It merely slowed things down for half a minute, not slow down time itself. Really, what I had in mind for Blackbeard was something more along the lines of Jojo stand powers like The World or Killer Queen's Bites the Dust power-up ("freezing" and "resetting" time, respectively).

Also..... I thought I'd once again put in another shameless plug for the SBS thread, in case anyone missed it. Some very interesting info's been posted there (particularly a certain marine-related tidbit).....

Kallen4life · 2011-11-04, 10:27

I'm against any time-based powers (at least cheap opne's like stopping time), much less for BB who's strong as it is

marvelB · 2011-11-04, 10:58

^Think of it this way, though: If Blackbeard is able to freeze time, maybe he'll finally learn to dodge attacks for a change.

Kallen4life · 2011-11-04, 11:23

he has good reactions, can whip up the black stuff in front of him to suck it in (Black Vortex I think) or can just quake whatever is coming at him

or better yet - quake it before it can launch an attack

.. or just tank ^^

Randrak42 · 2011-11-04, 13:08

Actually BB is rather unique in One Piece top tier villains since he takes every attack like a boss instead of dodging. Only seen WB do this and he did it well.

so if he suddenly started dodging everything...it would be kinda lame imo :|

Kallen4life · 2011-11-04, 13:28

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

Actually BB is rather unique in One Piece top tier villains since he takes every attack like a boss instead of dodging. Only seen WB do this and he did it well.

so if he suddenly started dodging everything...it would be kinda lame imo :|

agreed

marvelB · 2011-11-04, 14:29

Well, technically, I'd say CP9 counts as villains who had a tendency to tank attacks (true, they were all speedy opponents, but they were also fond of spamming Tekkai).

And the only reason Whitebeard didn't dodge attacks was because he was a sick old man..... Marco even pointed that out during the war, remember? If he were in his prime, I'm sure he'd have been zigzagging around those marines easily.....

And going back to Blackbeard: I don't disagree that taking attacks like a champ makes him awesome, but I'd kinda prefer that he didn't become as much of a punching bag as a certain drug-addicted sharkman.

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Rawrz Redbeard Has Blood Logia! Join Date: Jul 2008	If Hody still lives after all these special attacks, his stamina must be Whitebeard/Blackbeard/Kuma/Lucci level.Too bad immortality alone wont do him any good. __________________

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Undertaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.S.	Ah, JoJo, that's an awesome series especially with its structure and concept of supernatural power Star Platinum is still my favorite stand. Why can't we having "time" manipulation type of power? I mean so far we already Bonney whose DF power seems to allow her to manipulate age, not to mention we are (potentially) hinted with the mention of tamatebako in this arc. __________________

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aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	How about... ES Pills give you enormous strength by aging you instantly, and giving you all the combined strength you WOULD have gained in those years you lost. That way, the pills "shaving your life off" doesn't contradict either. Eh? EH? (Metro-man impression) __________________

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Undertaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.S.	Good catch, I totally forgot about Foxy, his DF is in a sense a time manipulation power as well. __________________

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Kallen4life Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	I'm against any time-based powers (at least cheap opne's like stopping time), much less for BB who's strong as it is __________________ When we hunt, we kill No one is safe Nothing is sacred We are Blackwatch We are the last line of defense We will burn our own to hold the red line, it is the last line to ever hold

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Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	I'm 99% sure Shirley lied. She probably saw that Luffy is the trigger for why Fishman Island will end up being destroyed.

2011-11-03, 20:14	Link #88
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	They grow old because...their hair turns white? Sure.........why not

2011-11-03, 22:56	Link #90
BaKaBaKaOtaKu Stupidity is Bliss. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In Hancock's Heart	we're nearing the end of FI arc and i am still wondering if Noah's really something more than an ark. Hody's not down yet it seems. he's still got one desperate attack to come and luffy's just gonna own him again anyway. lol and lastly, WTF?! ANOTHER BREAK??! HUH?! ok,ok, oda, i understand you need rest but it's so dull w/o a new OP chapter DX ..I'm excited about next arc. NEW WORLD, HERE WE GO!!!

2011-11-04, 10:17	Link #94
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Foxy's power wasn't really a time-based one, though. It merely slowed things down for half a minute, not slow down time itself. Really, what I had in mind for Blackbeard was something more along the lines of Jojo stand powers like The World or Killer Queen's Bites the Dust power-up ("freezing" and "resetting" time, respectively). Also..... I thought I'd once again put in another shameless plug for the SBS thread, in case anyone missed it. Some very interesting info's been posted there (particularly a certain marine-related tidbit).....

2011-11-04, 10:58	Link #96
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	^Think of it this way, though: If Blackbeard is able to freeze time, maybe he'll finally learn to dodge attacks for a change.

2011-11-04, 11:23	Link #97
Kallen4life Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	he has good reactions, can whip up the black stuff in front of him to suck it in (Black Vortex I think) or can just quake whatever is coming at him or better yet - quake it before it can launch an attack .. or just tank ^^ __________________ When we hunt, we kill No one is safe Nothing is sacred We are Blackwatch We are the last line of defense We will burn our own to hold the red line, it is the last line to ever hold

2011-11-04, 13:08	Link #98
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	Actually BB is rather unique in One Piece top tier villains since he takes every attack like a boss instead of dodging. Only seen WB do this and he did it well. so if he suddenly started dodging everything...it would be kinda lame imo :\|

2011-11-04, 14:29	Link #100
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Well, technically, I'd say CP9 counts as villains who had a tendency to tank attacks (true, they were all speedy opponents, but they were also fond of spamming Tekkai). And the only reason Whitebeard didn't dodge attacks was because he was a sick old man..... Marco even pointed that out during the war, remember? If he were in his prime, I'm sure he'd have been zigzagging around those marines easily..... And going back to Blackbeard: I don't disagree that taking attacks like a champ makes him awesome, but I'd kinda prefer that he didn't become as much of a punching bag as a certain drug-addicted sharkman.