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StratoSpear · 2012-08-18, 10:26

Hmm... Makes sense. Aerodynamic mechs with assault-class weapons are pretty rare though, unless there's a series which has one and someone is familiar with it.

agetreme · 2012-08-18, 13:36

Macross?

To be fair: They are fighter jet that transform.

StratoSpear · 2012-08-18, 13:48

VFs is a good start, they do have Super/Armored variations of those after all. Now i'll just have to work on a total upgrade that incorporates both but leans more to Super-type since they're less bulky and actually adds to the frame's mobility, AFAIK that is.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-08-18, 20:15

Mech in TLR stratos all end up with oversized backpack, either for weaponry, powerpack, defensive system, plain old propulsion, or a combination thereof.

Though, some are less insane than other. For example, Blue Tears and it's huge skirt, compared to Yuuki Twins' flying fortress.

StratoSpear · 2012-08-18, 20:49

I suppose I could try cooking up scenarios that demands the Minerva to use specialized equipment (Speed/Weapon/Hi-Mobility).

Though I would try and avoid backpacks seeing as they're back-heavy and the Minerva relies on little to no PIC. Speaking of which, how feasible are particle propulsion?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-08-18, 20:55

If it was propulsion, backpack has advantage being center of mass therefore less burden compared to limb equipment, if it's weapon or armor though...

Particle propulsion? Their only value is long endurance (consuming little propellant) and extremely high maximum theoretical speed. (high exhaust velocity) Their thrust and output/input ratio is pitiful.

StratoSpear · 2012-08-18, 21:10

By thrust, you mean acceleration? What constitutes output/intput ratio again?

demino_hellsin · 2012-08-18, 21:13

enthalpy, pressure, temperature, net engine work... let's not get into it -_-"

ZeroXSEED · 2012-08-18, 21:27

To put it simply, the comparison between overall output and the energy required for the engine to be operational is seriously different.

For comparison, a 10 ton probe supposed to arrive in mars would require engine spec as follow.

demino_hellsin · 2012-08-18, 21:32

Why Zero!? Why!??!?!?!?!?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-08-18, 21:35

Why Indeed, and I'm supposed to be a nurse....

This is why I stopped using them in my stories.

StratoSpear · 2012-08-18, 21:47

Maybe I'll just... curb it right here. And make it such that compact particle propulsion will send the Minerva bolting.

demino_hellsin · 2012-08-18, 21:51

well honestly it would. Since the scale of comparison zero made is for a probe to mars. Whatever you have should suffice for zipping around earth.

DarkJak2050 · 2012-08-18, 21:58

We got a crossover!~

Infinitus Stratos Shift in the Riders (Crossover with Kamen Rider).

demino_hellsin · 2012-08-18, 22:03

I got beat XD

StratoSpear · 2012-08-18, 22:27

It's like Decade... in a Decade.

yodawg.jpg

Eratas123 · 2012-08-18, 23:22

New story in the making, Please comment

Spoiler:

ZeroXSEED · 2012-08-19, 02:02

.... What? Younger Chifuyu fic? WHAT?! Tempest will have a huge hemorrhage for sure

@ Demi & Stratos
...actually, since there's gravity, it's even worse.

Assuming Minerva is 200 kg with PIC active, to accelerate at 2 g (very conservative number) you will need 500 kW x 10 x 200 = 200.000 kW, more than most large Nuclear Powerplant can give, that includes theoretical fusion reactor.

Eratas123 · 2012-08-19, 02:15

Well, I think this is a good balance between darkness and diabetes

ZeroXSEED · 2012-08-19, 02:19

I think that would be the case as well

2012-08-18, 10:26	Link #35701
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	Hmm... Makes sense. Aerodynamic mechs with assault-class weapons are pretty rare though, unless there's a series which has one and someone is familiar with it. __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2012-08-18, 13:36	Link #35702
agetreme Just another Idiot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Delusion world	Macross? To be fair: They are fighter jet that transform. __________________ Ara Han

2012-08-18, 13:48	Link #35703
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	VFs is a good start, they do have Super/Armored variations of those after all. Now i'll just have to work on a total upgrade that incorporates both but leans more to Super-type since they're less bulky and actually adds to the frame's mobility, AFAIK that is. __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2012-08-18, 20:15	Link #35704
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Mech in TLR stratos all end up with oversized backpack, either for weaponry, powerpack, defensive system, plain old propulsion, or a combination thereof. Though, some are less insane than other. For example, Blue Tears and it's huge skirt, compared to Yuuki Twins' flying fortress. __________________

2012-08-18, 20:49	Link #35705
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	I suppose I could try cooking up scenarios that demands the Minerva to use specialized equipment (Speed/Weapon/Hi-Mobility). Though I would try and avoid backpacks seeing as they're back-heavy and the Minerva relies on little to no PIC. Speaking of which, how feasible are particle propulsion? __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2012-08-18, 20:55	Link #35706
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	If it was propulsion, backpack has advantage being center of mass therefore less burden compared to limb equipment, if it's weapon or armor though... Particle propulsion? Their only value is long endurance (consuming little propellant) and extremely high maximum theoretical speed. (high exhaust velocity) Their thrust and output/input ratio is pitiful. __________________

2012-08-18, 21:10	Link #35707
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	By thrust, you mean acceleration? What constitutes output/intput ratio again? __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2012-08-18, 21:13	Link #35708
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	enthalpy, pressure, temperature, net engine work... let's not get into it -_-"

2012-08-18, 21:27	Link #35709
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	To put it simply, the comparison between overall output and the energy required for the engine to be operational is seriously different. For comparison, a 10 ton probe supposed to arrive in mars would require engine spec as follow. __________________

2012-08-18, 21:32	Link #35710
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Why Zero!? Why!??!?!?!?!?

2012-08-18, 21:35	Link #35711
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Why Indeed, and I'm supposed to be a nurse.... This is why I stopped using them in my stories. __________________

2012-08-18, 21:47	Link #35712
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	Maybe I'll just... curb it right here. And make it such that compact particle propulsion will send the Minerva bolting. __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2012-08-18, 21:51	Link #35713
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	well honestly it would. Since the scale of comparison zero made is for a probe to mars. Whatever you have should suffice for zipping around earth.

2012-08-18, 21:58	Link #35714
DarkJak2050 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	We got a crossover!~ Infinitus Stratos Shift in the Riders (Crossover with Kamen Rider).

2012-08-18, 22:03	Link #35715
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I got beat XD

2012-08-18, 22:27	Link #35716
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	It's like Decade... in a Decade. yodawg.jpg __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2012-08-18, 23:22	Link #35717
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	New story in the making, Please comment Spoiler: Here she was sitting at the center of the class, trying to ignore the stares the other student's were giving her. What's the big deal, she thought. She was a girl just like the rest of them. Nothing special about her. Her looks were average: Long black hair tied into a ponytail, dark brown eyes that looked red at certain lighting, and pretty good body proportions. She could pilot the IS, but so could any other double X chromosome human being. She was completely average in every sense of the word. Really. Right now it was self introductions. The busty green haired teacher at front was instructing (more like begging, she thought to herself) the students to introduce themselves to the entire class. Though she said teacher, the person at front looked anything but. The yellow dress she wore certainly didn't look like any certified teacher wear she'd ever seen before. The way her chest bounced around with every slight movement she made also made her angry for some reason. It didn't take long till it was her turn to introduce herself. Sighing, she stood up and introduced herself quickly, "My name is Chifuyu Orimura. I'm just your average girl with nothing special about me, so...yeah. I hope we get along in the coming years." She did a short bow and sat back into her seat. Silence. Total fucking silence was the classes response to her short introduction. Chifuyu smiled inwardly. Normally people would be surprised or embarrassed when they received that sort of reaction, but she was happy. Now no one was going to go up to her and start asking her stupid questions about her brother again. "Is that all you have to say Chifu-chan?" Her smile quickly disappeared and it's place were rapidly reddening cheeks as she recognized the familiar voice, "I thought you'd be more friendly on your first day of school, but I guess I was wrong." There was only one person. One person who had the gall to call her that nickname and make her cheeks redden from anger (Not embarrassment!). There, leaning on the doorway, was a young man of 24. His black hair was short and ended in spiky waves and his brown eyes showed a hint of mirth. In contrast to the other adult (She still had her doubts on that), he wore a black business suit with a white long sleeved dress shirt underneath it. She couldn't help but twitch when she saw that the black suit was unbuttoned and his dress shirt was tucked in. Leave it to him to come in looking like an idiot. "O-Onii-chan!" She tried to say, but her voice was drowned out by the sound of the other girls in the classes wild yells. She'd heard it all before so she chose to block out all their noise. It was probably something about how hot he was or something...not that she thought he was hot or anything. She was his sister and that would've been weird. Ichika ignored the screaming of the students and went over to her seat. She looked up at him suspiciously before he gave her a smile and started ruffling her hair, much to everyone's jealousy. She could've told him to stop, but the feeling of it sent her nerves spiraling down too much for her too care. "Chifu-chan, you need to be more friendly to your classmates," He sighed, "How do you expect to make friends when you're being so friendly. You don't have to be so shy, you know? None of them know that you-" "Ahfbeihf!" She smashed both hands on her desk and stood up, glaring at him. The blush on her face pretty much destroyed any fear he might have gotten, though, "That's not related to this class at all! You told me you were a teacher, so start acting like it," She sat back down and crossed her arms, though Ichika didn't miss the small pout she had on her face, "And stop calling me Chifu-chan! We're not at home anymore so you have to act like a teacher while we're here and call me Orimura-san or something. It's embarrassing when it's not just the two of us." She didn't say the last sentence, but Ichika could tell that's what she wanted to say. The other students (and the lone teacher) looked at the two student's with a mix of confusion and, in some cases, jealousy. This was the only male IS pilot? The champion of the First Mondo Grosso and would be champion of the second one? The pilot who was known all over the world as a genius when it came to the IS? And, most infamously, Shinonono Tabane's rumored lover? "Right, we'll talk later, Chifu-chan," He ignored Chifuyu's angry stare and went to the front of the class, a large grin on his face. Chifuyu felt her blood boil when she saw Maya not so discreetly move next to him. "My name's Ichika Orimura, though some of you seem to know that already. I'll be teaching you for the next year and I just want everyone to know that we're all friends here. You guys can call me Orimura-sensei if you want, but I'm fine with being called by first name's and no honorifics if that's how you guys want it. Over the past year we'll be seeing a lot of each other, so I want everyone to be friends with one another, me and Maya-sensei included." He was an idiot. This was the thought that pushed through Chifuyu's mind as she once again blocked out the screams of her classmates at his introduction. Still, a part of her felt relieved at seeing her brother act so natural. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad. "That said, I hope you all become friends with Chifu-chan there at the center. She might seem a bit cold, but that's only because she's shy. Do your best, Chifu-chan!" ...Scratch that, she was going to kill him once class was over. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hey Chifu-chan, how did you know I liked purple?" Chifuyu looked up from the television and saw him walk into the room carrying the laundry bin. She did her best to ignore the fact that he was bare-chested and only wore a pair of black boxers. It was really hot today, so she herself was only wearing a loose shirt and a pair of panties to beat the heat. "What are you talking about, Onii-chan?" "Well..." Ichika sighed and pulled out a a pair of purple panties from the bin. By the looks of things, it was an extremely risque piece of lingerie made for an adult. Chifuyu stared blankly at it before her mind processed what exactly her brother was holding, "I mean, I'm not going to tell you how to dress or anything, but I didn't think you were growing up so fast. Pretty soon you'll be getting a boyfriend and leav- Eh? Chifu-chan, why are you balling up your hand into a fist?" "YOU IDIOOOOOOOOOOOTTTT!" __________________

2012-08-19, 02:02	Link #35718
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	.... What? Younger Chifuyu fic? WHAT?! Tempest will have a huge hemorrhage for sure @ Demi & Stratos ...actually, since there's gravity, it's even worse. Assuming Minerva is 200 kg with PIC active, to accelerate at 2 g (very conservative number) you will need 500 kW x 10 x 200 = 200.000 kW, more than most large Nuclear Powerplant can give, that includes theoretical fusion reactor. __________________

2012-08-19, 02:15	Link #35719
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Well, I think this is a good balance between darkness and diabetes __________________

2012-08-19, 02:19	Link #35720
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	I think that would be the case as well __________________