2012-03-21, 22:48 | Link #17501 |
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They are product of the macro scale, but they work on a micro scale anyway. Narration wise, I feel that the closes thing that we have seen to holistic are the AIM entities, which with their sole presence bend the rules to the elements and disable magic.
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2012-03-21, 22:49 | Link #17502 | |
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2012-03-21, 22:50 | Link #17504 |
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To make this simpler:
Science Espers are focused on the individual scale for doing things. Holistic Espers are focused on the whole scale for doing things. Basically, Holistic Espers use the concept of Holism, the idea that natural systems and their properties, should be viewed as wholes, not as collections of parts. This often includes the view that systems somehow function as wholes and that their functioning cannot be fully understood solely in terms of their component parts. Instead of individual AIMs (which forms the core of the Science Espers' powers), a Holistic Esper would use the understanding of the world and perhaps the universe to use powers. It's almost like how magic works in the Indexverse, although on an even greater scale. |
2012-03-21, 22:51 | Link #17506 | |
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@Sumeragi I sort of, kind of get it now. In the loosest terms of course. Thanks though.
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2012-03-21, 22:54 | Link #17508 | |
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Aleisters uses micro-scale and gets Aiwass. Othinus uses macro-scale and gets Anna Sprengel? Is tha twhat she wants? Again, his luck sucks hard . |
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2012-03-21, 22:55 | Link #17509 | |
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What Othinus wants is to create a sper which could shake the foundations of the world in a major way, and use that reshuffle to readjust herself into a better position (as in, not subjected to probability). What the sper can do is totally irrelevant, as long as it can bring changes to how the world works law wise by activating it's abilities. The power itself could be something stupid as dying someone's hair of multiple colors
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2012-03-21, 22:55 | Link #17510 | |
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But whatever means she use, the key lies in how the universe be bent. A repeat of the current event is not going to work, despite the holistic esper effect was achieve temporally, the rates for tragedy sky rocketed in its sphere of influence. The universe has to be bent in the right way to produce a effect that can be considered useful. |
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2012-03-21, 23:01 | Link #17515 |
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The way I see it, Aleister is going from micro to macro, while Othinus wants to go from macro to micro.
Artificial Angels aside, the effect of Imaginary School District is pretty macro, it literally is a hole on the the current world of Osiris Aeon. |
2012-03-21, 23:02 | Link #17516 |
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I feel sorry for Kagun too. He didn't deserve to die. Still her reaction was done in such a way that it makes you feel even "monsters" like her are human (or dverger as the case may be) too. Or maybe I'm just a sucker for swarthy skinned silver haired meganekos
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2012-03-21, 23:04 | Link #17517 |
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What's interesting about the difference between AC Science and Holism is that it's also reflected on the difference between East Asia and Western Europe, as in medicine (Eastern tries to form a balance within the body, Western tries to treat the symptoms) and address (Eastern goes from Country to individual, Western goes from individual to country). We're looking at opposite concepts working towards the same goal.
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2012-03-21, 23:06 | Link #17518 | |
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In other words AIM entities as a whole, as long as they are considered keys to the imaginary district, have an effect on how reality works. It's obviously not the same. Supposedly the theory was that they added another layer to this dimension and that screwed up the rules of occult that where created to work on the world as it is now. It's not the same, but it's like the only thing that came to my mind when they where speaking of messing the order of the universe. I think the novel on which they explain this was either the 6th one or vol 22.
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2012-03-21, 23:06 | Link #17519 | |
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The Angels all fall to Earth? Both his and Othinius plans still involve forcing one's will on the natural mechanism on a massive scale
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2012-03-21, 23:09 | Link #17520 | |
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