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Old 2013-11-21, 10:45   Link #1861
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ARENA 13: Kurahashi Riko [Miyu Edelfelt] Totori Kagami
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ARENA 15: Dee Ensy Stratmitos [Kosaka Chihiro] Mushibugyō
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Pretty smooth voting, besides arena 16. Aya and Yuki were hard to decide between..
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Old 2013-11-21, 11:00   Link #1862
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Old 2013-11-21, 11:14   Link #1863
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1. I should think that, over a certain period of time, the number of manipulators tends to a constant. Still, if you say so, I can drop this part for a different calculation.

2. 5% was just an estimate. I forgot to add that it could be any amount; 5% was simply an example, nothing more. When I did my first calculations, it was 3%. The % amounts I used, are the assumed maximum possible accepted fluctuations. What is the maximum you accept, again? I'll use that for my calculations.

I'm not calculating the residual (that was left to the above point), I'm calculating the statistical error (which I presume you call the residue) using a different method from TRE's. TRE used a simple ±%, which I felt was inadequate and only really captured a specific case. The links you posted only dealt with N ± ΔN, and the only thing this applies to would be the number of voters (which fluctuates a lot more). Here, we are dealing with X% ± ΔX%, which will need more complex calculations.

3. I didn't mean faction campaigning (which is perfectly legal; it's equivalent to training in the sport), I meant using computers "to break the 1 vote 1 person principle". That is the equivalent of doping.

And that's the reason why I say that Saimoe only needs one round.
The problem of not using TRE's predictions is that we lack any that consistently made predictions public before the match started. If you don't want to use it as basis for testing 2013 cases or earlier cases, then there we don't have valid hard to refute way of testing our assumptions.

There do exist one way of testing and predicting the results though in the long term. I would like to ask you to post your predictions for the actual votes of at least 9 different contestants every match day for 2014 ISML regular season. Then I am going to poll people to identify two necklace period where people felt the SDO manipulation was most rampant. After that, I will compare the actual to your predicted for group A , the 3 periods that had less manipulation, and group B, the 2 periods with more manipulation, by simply calculating actual vote number - your predicted number. Then we can calculate variance of the two group, which will lead to F_{n(B)-1, n(A) - 1 } value, thus F test, to see whether the variance for the group B is indeed higher . ( assuming true sigma_A = true sigma_B ) Please post the numbers at least 24 hours before result announcement time so the public can see the number and comment on it before voting is over. It would really help if you post two numbers in each case, the number you expect when there isn't any SDO manipulation, and number you expect because of the SDO manipulation. We can check each set of numbers separately against the actual vote number. By posting your predictions, you have a chance to prove all your points.

Do also see how volatile the support level of Misaka Mikoto fans are. I think you can easily see that they arrive only for very few select matches. Some fans are like that, and each have different ideas as to which match is important to them.

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I just thought of better way to do this. SO

@ Team Rocket Elite : For Vegas Fantasy of 2014 ISML Regular Season, why not do over/under for the actual vote count of contestants of your choice instead of VF% ? We can compare your predicted numbers against iamadooddood's numbers if he wants to take up my request.
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Old 2013-11-21, 11:35   Link #1864
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The problem of not using TRE's predictions is that we lack any that consistently made predictions public before the match started. If you don't want to use it as basis for testing 2013 cases or earlier cases, then there we don't have valid hard to refute way of testing our assumptions.

There do exist one way of testing and predicting the results though in the long term. I would like to ask you to post your predictions for the actual votes of at least 9 different contestants every match day for 2014 ISML regular season. Then I am going to poll people to identify two necklace period where people felt the SDO manipulation was most rampant. After that, I will compare the actual to your predicted for group A , the 3 periods that had less manipulation, and group B, the 2 periods with more manipulation, by simply calculating actual vote number - your predicted number. Then we can calculate variance of the two group, which will lead to F_{n(B)-1, n(A) - 1 } value, thus F test, to see whether the variance for the group B is indeed higher . ( assuming true sigma_A = true sigma_B ) Please post the numbers at least 24 hours before result announcement time so the public can see the number and comment on it before voting is over. It would really help if you post two numbers in each case, the number you expect when there isn't any SDO manipulation, and number you expect because of the SDO manipulation. We can check each set of numbers separately against the actual vote number. By posting your predictions, you have a chance to prove all your points.

Do also see how volatile the support level of Misaka Mikoto fans are. I think you can easily see that they arrive only for very few select matches. Some fans are like that, and each have different ideas as to which match is important to them.

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I just thought of better way to do this. SO

@ Team Rocket Elite : For Vegas Fantasy of 2014 ISML Regular Season, why not do over/under for the actual vote count of contestants of your choice instead of VF% ? We can compare your predicted numbers against iamadooddood's numbers if he wants to take up my request.
Wait wait wait... what am I saying. It should be:

TRE's predicted percentages can be used (unless there is a more accurate method of prediction; that one I'm not sure). The current method used to calculate the deviation from predictions, cannot be used.

Gaah.
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Old 2013-11-21, 11:44   Link #1865
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Old 2013-11-21, 11:48   Link #1866
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Wait wait wait... what am I saying. It should be:

TRE's predicted percentages can be used. The current method used to calculate the deviation from predictions, cannot be used.

Gaah.
Very well. Tell me how to use TRE's predicted percentage to calculate deviation from prediction.

I did also thought about calculating a relevant average VF number and comparing it to VF number for a match or another average VF number. The problem with this is that it will have trouble handling cases like Topaz 1, that overall average VF numbers for all the characters tended to decrease in the later necklace period, and deciding which average VF number is the right one to use.

Also, even if there was a more accurate prediction model, since it did NOT post its predictions before the start of the match, we cannot use it.
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Old 2013-11-21, 12:05   Link #1867
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Very well. Tell me how to use TRE's predicted percentage to calculate deviation from prediction.

I did also thought about calculating a relevant average VF number and comparing it to VF number for a match or another average VF number. The problem with this is that it will have trouble handling cases like Topaz 1, that overall average VF numbers for all the characters tended to decrease in the later necklace period, and deciding which average VF number is the right one to use.

Also, even if there was a more accurate prediction model, since it did NOT post its predictions before the start of the match, we cannot use it.
After my exam tomorrow? I should be able to give a satisfactory answer by Friday night or Saturday morning. (And study for other exams after that; my exam schedule is ridiculous.)

Though what you suggested in your last post here, could work too. In fact, I should be able to calculate deviation from any prediction, if done right. As long as the prediction is accurate I can use it.
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Old 2013-11-21, 12:29   Link #1868
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Aya, Miyu, and Nepgear all easily earn my vote .

Ryūnosuke vs Koyomi and Lelouch vs Sorata were closes ones though.
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I initially thought Kakashi looked better this year but that seems to just be due to the multiway matches, Kakashi looks about the same this year as last year. That means Oreki is about the same as last year as well. Not much change for Hideyoshi or Hayate either. Keima might be a bit stronger than last year but nothing too huge. Yuuta seems to have fully recovered with a good showing on Yuzuru. That makes Yeager look even better that that is corroborated by Yeager's strong performance on Sadao. Sadao may be a top 10 charcter going out already. Yuuta may be as good as top 6 and he's gone. Touma is probably top 16 and he didn't even get this far. Some tough luck in the bracketing this year. Not a good performance by Lelouch here. Sorata wasn't that strong last year. Sorata may be stronger now but it would have to be by quite or bit for Lelouch to look like his usual self. Similarly, Kirito didn't do that well on Hinata. The former champions need to get their act together if they want to win another title.

Touhou results were more inline with what I would normally expect. Nothing really too crazy this time.

My knowledge on Summer characters is pretty weak since I haven't had time to watch a lot of the shows. It's hard to say if any of these characters are likely to be regular season material. I was hoping Tomoko would do better since she seemed to have some hype behind her but she does as badly as she did in her previous exhibition match. Same thing with Aya, although Aya won. It's nice to see Miyu did well. Considering Illyasviel isn't a super safe pick for making the regular season, it's hard to have too high expectations for Miyu's future. I'd be happy if she was strong, though. Dee Ensy Stratmitos might have some strength but not being able to easily put away a Kaminomi character isn't that good a sign. I'm probably being too negative but I do hope to see some good performances out of these characters.
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