2009-09-01, 10:30 | Link #142 |
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GL was not a show dirercted at the maho shoujo croud like say nanoha or sailor moon, and when you talk about to sailor moon, the bust size isn't ridiculous as it is with barbie, etc. It's not about the characters age, it's about who the target demographic and it seems that in the US, the younger the demographic the more unhealthy the image is. @VVayfarer and Midnightviper88 Your kidding right? The reason why I claim Jasmine as an example of hypersexualization isn't because of just the outfit, but in american society it seems that that certain dress isn't appropriate, the outfit is actually not that of the middle east, it's the romanticized/westernized vision of the middle east, based off what Americans thought snake charmers were. In the middle east you'd probably see a woman in burka then in what Jasmine was wearing. Male sexuality is far more harder to distinguish but generally in Disney movies they don't focus on the strapping shoulders and thick arms, or at least the movies pre circa 1994. My point is that when you look at how women are depicted in the America more so than the "west" you notice the stark hypocrisy and that make's it glaringly obvious how very prudish America really is. We may censory shit, ass, bitch on the radio but we sure as hell allow all that innuendo to go on. |
2009-09-01, 12:15 | Link #144 | |||
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This is actually a weird case of disconnect between fantasy and reality though... as a cosplay photographer, I've always found the short skirt thing very eye catching in real life - and most cosplayers are sane enough to wear something that at least comes midway down the thigh. Quote:
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(I also find it interesting that most discussions of empowerment end up concentrating a lot on who can kick the most ass.) |
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2009-09-02, 15:06 | Link #145 | |||||||||||
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Anyways, with regards to the idea of being prudish and sexual expression: Japan was very liberal in the Edo (aka Tokugawa) period from 1615 to 1868. When sexual services legally accompanied entertainment, and all of what we might think of as modern ero concepts, including uh.. tentacles dates back at least to this period. And unlike today where we think of such portrayals as complete fantasy, it reflected an idealized state of society back then, in terms people's desires. It was like Japan's period of free love, except the government was also in on it "Class barriers were fluid; money was new, loose, plentiful. Downtime became a preoccupation, leisure an industry." Perhaps ironically, women probably saw the most liberation and highest social standing during this period in pre-modern Japan. That's not to say that everything was alright though. Problems arose from indentured servitude. Although you could say that at least there was less of double standard where men would suffer just as equally working as a boy-toy for male and female patrons until they could repay their debt or fulfill their contract Quote:
http://www.glbtq.com/arts/japan_art.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shud%C5%8D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Japan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_minorities_in_Japan http://www.stolaf.edu/people/kucera/...x_suginaka.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dre...erman%27s_Wife lot's o' quotes: on sex and morality: Quote:
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birth of the bishies, traps/crossdressers, yaoi harems, yuri harems, and reverse-harems: Quote:
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but parts of that past did survive in the 1500 year old Japanese Fertility Festival pics: http://www.yeeeeee.com/2009/05/10/fe...japan-19-pics/ http://photoguide.jp/pix/thumbnails.php?album=529 it's charming and hilarious it is to see such penis and vagina shaped souvenirs, toys, and snacks used so casually and festively Rub for good luck and children too wow.. I got carried away there the quote spam Last edited by 4Tran; 2009-09-04 at 00:29. Reason: Sorry, explicit art is not allowed, not even in a spoiler tag. |
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