Why is Gundam Seed Destiny so controversial?

[Kenshin3]

i hated that lacus..what was that copies name..i forgot..meer, i hated that outfit..bah, weird ass show, but story is still likeable

[srb]

Are the explosions pink?

If so, paint that mother pink!

It's clearly a form of clever optical camouflage.

[Dean_the_Young]

Originally Posted by Dan the Man

Of course... Had Mustang had his way, all female officers would be like Lunamaria, wearing tiny miniskirts!

God, how could anyone forget that scene? It was the most epic part of the series.

Originally Posted by srb

Are the explosions pink?

If so, paint that mother pink!

It's clearly a form of clever optical camouflage.

So, hypothetically,we could blow it up and no one would notice?

[4Tran]

Are we onto silly stuff like the color of different units now? I'm not sure why this is even an issue since pink is no worse a color for a ship than white to begin with.

[Dan the Man]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

Are we onto silly stuff like the color of different units now? I'm not sure why this is even an issue since pink is no worse a color for a ship than white to begin with.

No, it really isn't. I guess the pink just isn't manly enough for Gundam viewers.

Yeah, yeah, don't bother. No need to comment on that, I already know...

[sx3]

To answer this threads question. Everything. That's the answer

[Foreshadow]

What killed me was the Reasoning of opposing the bad guys....
And
The Reused fight scenes
With the Refusal to focus on One Person as the protagonist the entire time
Pick Shinn Or Kira!

[justavisitor]

I like the color pink XD...and pink mini skirt was one of the plus in destiny

In fact, someone makes the parody that the true reason Arthun agrees to return to Zaft is because the chairman promises Arthun that he will promote the mini-skirt to every female solider in Zaft...however, it turns out that only Luna is fitted to wear it and other female soldiers oppose the idea violently, so the mini-skirt idea is banned and Arthun get betrayed XD

Just a joke, don't take it seriously

[elindir]

Originally Posted by Dan the Man

No, it really isn't. I guess the pink just isn't manly enough for Gundam viewers.

Red was manly enough for Char. Some fans even say that his suits (like his Custom Zaku) weren't red at all, but pink. This means pink is manly.

[Seibee]

The Pink Comet doesn't sound quite as impressive, though..

[elindir]

Originally Posted by Seibee

The Pink Comet doesn't sound quite as impressive, though..

I'm sure there are some people who would love that name.

[Sir Dearka]

Well, origin had its share of pink explosions, too...

[WhiteWings]

I've learned only be experience to never judge the anime by its title.

Reason for GSD failing? Too much characters. Too many plots. Too many loose ends. Not enough episodes to really cover even half of them. And finally the original casts from Gundam SEED was just to prominent to remain in the backstage and eventually took over the series.

I mean initially the openings had the new characters in charge as time went on GS characters like Kira and Athrun take over.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by WhiteWings

Reason for GSD failing?

That depends on how you define failing.

If by the obvious goal of making money, GSD succeeded beyond belief in the territories where the series was spawned. It launched the franchise into new heights and placed Kira/Lacus on the charts for years to come.

And while GSD did have many faults, I certainly liked it.

- Tak

[Terrestrial Dream]

Originally Posted by Tak

That depends on how you define failing.

If by the obvious goal of making money, GSD succeeded beyond belief in the territories where the series was spawned. It launched the franchise into new heights and placed Kira/Lacus on the charts for years to come.

And while GSD did have many faults, I certainly liked it.

- Tak

From what I saw it just rode on the popularity of Seed and nothing more, it didn't really seem to change anything for its popularity.

[FruitsPunchSamurai]

Originally Posted by Tak

That depends on how you define failing.

If by the obvious goal of making money, GSD succeeded beyond belief in the territories where the series was spawned. It launched the franchise into new heights and placed Kira/Lacus on the charts for years to come.

And while GSD did have many faults, I certainly liked it.

- Tak

Actually it was Seed that launched the franchise into new heights and was considered the second coming of Gundam after the original series all Destiny did was milk from the success of Seed by adding new characters into the mix and while a success it didn't beat SEED in ratings and sales figures. And keep in mind that the only people who "liked" Destiny for what it was despite it's apparent flaws wasn't watching so much for plot but for the "flashy pew pew lazers and melodramatic bishounen/shoujo leads"

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

From what I saw it just rode on the popularity of Seed and nothing more, it didn't really seem to change anything for its popularity.

Not really. If you kept up with the polls, Kira and Lacus did not have their dominance until they were reintroduced in the middle of Destiny. It was pretty much Destiny that made them the kings and queens that they are today.

Originally Posted by FruitsPunchSamurai

"flashy pew pew lazers and melodramatic bishounen/shoujo leads"

I don't think anyone could disagree with that. Then again, if it works, it works. Certainly it worked for me, because in all honesty, I didn't give much of a shit about Shinn.

Never mind that it also spawned the most games in the shortest period of time. More so than any single Gundam series in the past. So no, GSD is not a failure. Very far, far, far, far from the truth.

- Tak

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by FruitsPunchSamurai

Actually it was Seed that launched the franchise into new heights and was considered the second coming of Gundam after the original series all Destiny did was milk from the success of Seed by adding new characters into the mix and while a success it didn't beat SEED in ratings and sales figures. And keep in mind that the only people who "liked" Destiny for what it was despite it's apparent flaws wasn't watching so much for plot but for the "flashy pew pew lazers and melodramatic bishounen/shoujo leads"

I was actually just watching Gundam Seed Destiny for Mu

[FruitsPunchSamurai]

Originally Posted by Tak

Not really. If you kept up with the polls, Kira and Lacus did not have their dominance until they were reintroduced in the middle of Destiny. It was pretty much Destiny that made them the kings and queens that they are today.

Then there is the model sale figures. I probably don't need to remind you just how popular Strike Freedom (in all of its incarnations) was. Then there is the games... etc. Destiny spawned more games in the shortest period of time than probably anything before it.

- Tak

Kira and Lacus had been popular since the first series and this has not changed, it helps the fact that between 2002-2006 no other male or female character had made a name for themselves since they were eclipse by the franchise's massive popularity back then and it was only until recently with Code Geass that both Kira and Lacus got shoved from their thrones by Lelouch and C.C.
You seem to be confused about the main motif of the thread whether Destiny was a hit is irrevelant since it's still look down upon by the fanbase because it was a essentially a trainwreck. You may be able to look past these flaws but other more observant fans can't look past it.

Originally Posted by Charred Knight

I was actually just watching Gundam Seed Destiny for Mu

Same here. Despite the writers completely destroying what significance his death brought to everyone who saw it with a lame cop-out in Destiny, he was the only person that kept me watching.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by FruitsPunchSamurai

You seem to be confused about the main motif of the thread whether Destiny was a hit is irrevelant since it's still look down upon by the fanbase because it was a essentially a trainwreck. You may be able to look past these flaws but other more observant fans can't look past it.

The thread asks what caused gsd to fail. I am simply pointing out the obvious that it did not, especially in the financial front.

If that is not the motif of the thread, care to explain what was. Moreover, while you may look down upon this particular series, it does not mean I agree. Personally, in fulfilling the fanbases' desires, I think it done a superb job.

Originally Posted by FruitsPunchSamurai

Same here. Despite the writers completely destroying what significance his death brought to everyone who saw it with a lame cop-out in Destiny, he was the only person that kept me watching.

He was brought back even before Destiny's broadcast. The SEED specials pretty much implied his return.

- Tak