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View Poll Results: Who are your favorite characters? | |||
Alto Saotome | 202 | 36.59% | |
Sheryl Nome | 388 | 70.29% | |
Ranka Lee | 159 | 28.80% | |
Brera Sterne | 75 | 13.59% | |
Ozma Lee | 127 | 23.01% | |
Cathy Glass | 62 | 11.23% | |
Klan Klan | 203 | 36.78% | |
Mikhail Blanc (aka Michel) | 156 | 28.26% | |
Luca Angeloni | 24 | 4.35% | |
Nanase Matsuura | 23 | 4.17% | |
Canaria Berstein | 18 | 3.26% | |
Leon Mishima | 13 | 2.36% | |
Howard Glass | 6 | 1.09% | |
Grace O'Connor | 41 | 7.43% | |
Bobby Margot | 61 | 11.05% | |
Nene Rora | 14 | 2.54% | |
Raramia Rerenia | 13 | 2.36% | |
Jeffrey Wilder | 18 | 3.26% | |
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2010-10-08, 08:06 | Link #1484 |
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I have to say though that while I don't like TV Series Minmay, I really think she was adorable even back when I only know of the TV version (... Minus the clinginess and... Stuffs. They irked me at best, bless my young heart!) It doesn't help that imo she has the best design among Mikimoto Haruhiko's creations. The Jenius/Genius family fans will definitely disagree with me though
Don't get me wrong, I love Misa more, but I can't deny there is this adorable charm, even from her appearance alone. I definitely can see why lots of Asians don't hate her, and why she is so iconic and influental. It NEARLY tempts me to buy Macross the 1st in Kino, but I need to save money for December oh ho~
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2010-10-08, 08:25 | Link #1485 |
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I'm not really sure what Natsuki and TwilightHack mean by "clinginess"...from my observation, most of the criticism of TV Minmay centers around her unwillingness to see Hikaru as anything more than friend (which, incidentally, seems more like his fault than hers..."She's just not that into you, Hikaru...but hey! Check out that totally wonderful commanding officer you've got! No? You'd rather be miserable? Okay, suit yourself." And ditto his constant mooning over Minmay in the latter portion of the show; she has no idea it's even going on. She never led him on or teased him knowingly...she's quite honorable in that way).
The only time she gets clingy is in episodes 35 and 36, and that's just temporary...her popularity's down, her dick cousin/boyfriend/manager walked out on her (and good riddance), and she's lost her purpose...so yeah, she's weak, vulnerable, and gets somewhat manipulative. But she gets over it by the end of the episode. (Sheryl had a similar "clingy" moment, too...it just happens that Yasuburo was available at the time and Alto wasn't...) |
2010-10-08, 08:35 | Link #1486 |
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??? How did Sheryl being down because she just got news that she is going to die, compare in any way or form with Minmay trying to steal another womans man?
And, yeah, Hikaru was a fricking idiot.
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2010-10-08, 08:56 | Link #1487 | |
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So, if she tried to steal another woman's man...you gotta admit that the man put himself in a position to be stolen QUITE easily. And the comparison to Sheryl still stands. Sheryl's career is in the toilet, and she discovers she's dying, so she needs a little tea and sympathy from people who love her. Minmay's career was likewise in the toilet, and she discovers that she no longer has a purpose in life...so she also needs some assistance. It's normal, and it happens to everyone at some time or another. Condemning someone who's dealing with a serious crisis as "clingy" seems needlessly heartless to me. Gah, yes. I wanted to strangle the moron... Still do, actually. |
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2010-10-08, 09:29 | Link #1488 |
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I just can't find the right word to put her actions in those episodes, but yeah basically you answered your own question for me~ It doesn't help that it happens in the penultimate episode, where you would think they would have already developed and can realize sooner that about the others role and stuffs and not make demanding request.
By the way Yottchin, in my case this "clinginess" isn't really what makes me like Misa better than Minmay, it just irked me since we are on the final episode yet she still be... Selfish? in a way. I never stated that I dislike Minmay after all~ But hey, when she came to the realization and sings, my irking period-- errr, I mean, the drama pays off for me! In regards to the comparison Sheryl, I will plead for silence Personally it is moot to compare similar situations when both characters have different determination. That and I will avoid to trust my rusty brain >_O And my brain has already stopped with that friggin' essay today... Why am I killing myself with literature analysis again?
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2010-10-08, 09:40 | Link #1489 | |
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My entire problem with the latter episodes is that the love triangle (which despite getting a lot of praise, never seemed like much of a triangle to me, since Minmay was mostly unaware that she was part of it, and was rarely a participant) the love triangle should've been closed (hell, WAS closed) at the end of episode 27...and the only way Hiroshi Ohnogi could crack it back open was to have the characters act like total idiots. Because it's FUN! |
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2010-10-08, 10:00 | Link #1490 | ||
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And hey, look at the positive light, we should be happy that the next 9 episodes brings drama with that triangle and boosts Macross popularity! We got all these sequels and Valkyries because of the large interest from the audience~ Quote:
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2010-10-08, 10:05 | Link #1491 | |
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Overall, I have to say that I like them...but there are some aspects I wish were done better. And who majored in lit at university. It got to the point where I could write an "A-" 10-page paper in three hours or less. Often on the morning when it was due. |
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2010-10-08, 12:39 | Link #1493 | ||
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But you can't tell me Minmay didn't know that Misa loved Hikaru... just appearing and out and out trying to woo him away because she is feeling lonely is not right. Quote:
Dude, you are way off here. Sheryl surely did appreciate being given a place to stay, but she didn't go on a whining session with Yasaburo. He came to her to give a lecture about how great it is to be on stage, because his obsession was with getting Alto back into the family business.
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2010-10-08, 17:35 | Link #1494 | ||
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[QUOTE=magnuskn;3287493]Oh, as I said, Hikaru was an utter ass towards Misa. He should count himself lucky that she was so forbearing on him.
But you can't tell me Minmay didn't know that Misa loved Hikaru...[/QUOTE} That's EXACTLY what I'm telling you. Hikaru went out of his way not to mention her to Minmay, and Minmay hadn't seen him in two years. How was she supposed to know? And WHAT was she supposed to know? Hikaru and Misa weren't dating. SHE liked HIM, but he wasn't letting himself give in to his own feelings. Minmay saw them together a grand total of twice, once when he was hugging Minmay. Both times, Hikaru was completely and utterly dismissive of Misa in favor of Minmay. So, first: Hikaru was single at the time. Second, Hikaru went out of his way to make sure Minmay knew as little as possible about Misa. Third, Hikaru and Minmay hadn't been in contact in two years. Fourth, both times Minmay saw them together, Hikaru all but shoved Misa aside to pay attention to Minmay. I'm not seeing what Minmay did that was so unethical here. Quote:
And if you're saying Minmay should've stayed away because she somehow intuitively grasped that Misa loved Hikaru, even though she was responding to that love, then I could say the same about Sheryl moving in on Alto, when she knew very well that Ranka liked him. The real problem, I think, is that nearly everyone watching the show REALLY, REALLY WANTS Hikaru and Misa to get together at this point. And who's standing in the way? Minmay. So she gets all the flak, even though there are tons of things she doesn't know, and that Hikaru is actively hiding from her. I don't think it's fair to blame her for stuff she has no way of knowing. Quote:
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2010-10-08, 23:35 | Link #1496 | |
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On the other hand, Minmay never wanted to have a relationship with Hikaru (and no, i don't blame her for not liking Hikaru the same way he wanted), but then when she start having her crisis she went looking for him. To me at least it appeared that minmay thought something like "oh no my career is not going well, and i'm having problems, what should i do? oh yeah Hikaru! he always liked me, i haven't see him too much in these two years but i'm sure he will receive me" And it happened just when Hikaru was starting to overcome his Minmay obsession a little, he started to notice Misa more and I remember them to have a date to eat lunch together or something and Misa ended up giving the food she prepared to a dog I don't hate Minmay, i like her design but i don't like her character too much to be honest, i think Misa is much better even if she's not as iconic in the franchise as Minmay.
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2010-10-09, 02:03 | Link #1497 |
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Yeah, what Dash Hunter just said. Saves me having to type up a post.
But you are still misreading what Sheryl did, Yot. Sheryl needed support, true. But, unlike Minmay, she didn't seek it by throwing a pity party. She explicitly pushed Alto away at that point, because she a.) did indeed not want to be clingy and b.) did not want his pity.
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2010-10-09, 07:59 | Link #1499 |
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Well, not exactly. More like someone who tries to latch onto someone else for emotional support.
Which doesn't describe Sheryl at all during her personal crisis ( until Alto promised to take care of her in ep 22, that is. But that is not what we are talking about here.).
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2010-10-09, 10:12 | Link #1500 |
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Ooo... Of course not lahhh yaaa...
Sheryl is 100% fall in love with Alto... A true and serious love While ranka love to alto is like "cinta monyet" Cinta monyet in Indonesia means : elementary school love...or not serious. Ranka is not mature enough to experiance deep love with ALTO... I think Alto think of her as an imouto...X3 |
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