Mahouka LN - Spoiler-restricted Q&A (for people who want short, simple answers only)

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Rava

Correction.

Miyuki, Lina and Honoka are the only ones that are confirmed to be interested in Tatsuya THAT way, and can be quoted from the text.

Mayumi is VERY hazy because she has only shown clear evidence of sibling-zoning Tatsuya, but her other reactions to Tatsuya have kind of ranged from "Is she jealous?" to "What the heck is with that kind of reaction?"

Spoiler:

Especially with that really nasty prank she did to him in volume 10,

This still needs shipping glasses to make it work, but the prescription doesn't need to be strong.

Erika both likes and is scared of Tatsuya, but you'd need pretty strong shipping glasses to make the like THAT way as of V13.

Late in the game; but just wanna say; my shipping glasses are god-like;

Shipping is to believe and to believe is the way of life!

Shipping is life~

Originally Posted by Bakaizer

since i;m seeing a growing harem for tatsuya and a possible NTR, i want to know the status of the girls relationship with him ( in the LN) and who has the closet relationship apart from his brocon sis, and last who is tatsuya interested in

Miyuki is obvious too this fact...
Honoka's a fan girl so her love only weights as a fan~
Mayumi, shes you typical harem member who likes the MC but only takes a couple of screen time to show it~ If you want a specific she give the feeling like Rukia from Bleach~
Lina it would spoil but think of her like Ayase from Oreimo~
Shizuku gives the feeling like Hinata from Naruto(Not Shipuuden) I guess...
Lastly for Erika she very much the same as Misaki(Maid-sama) or C.C(Code Geass) well basically shes like the typical Heroine of a Shoujo Manga~!

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

Didn't he use his Taurus Silver equipment there, though?

Sure, and it is apparently specialized for the loop casting that allowed him to do that trick. However, from what little I got out of their descriptions, I would think that if the CAD was an obstacle to him pulling off that attack, it would be a case of "all or nothing." The CAD is either capable of making the attack work, or it's not, and if it is it will work however effectively Tatsuya wants it to. If the CAD can't handle the loop casting then the attack won't work at all, and if it can handle it then the attack should be completely effective.

That's my read on the situation, anyway.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Sure, and it is apparently specialized for the loop casting that allowed him to do that trick. However, from what little I got out of their descriptions, I would think that if the CAD was an obstacle to him pulling off that attack, it would be a case of "all or nothing." The CAD is either capable of making the attack work, or it's not, and if it is it will work however effectively Tatsuya wants it to. If the CAD can't handle the loop casting then the attack won't work at all, and if it can handle it then the attack should be completely effective.

That's my read on the situation, anyway.

It not like that. CAD's efficiency depends on how they are calibrated, with his Trident he can use 3 psion waves in a row and does it because his magic skills are weak. A more competent magician would be able to knock out someone by using it only one time. Low-spec CADs are used in Monolith Code to avoid accidents. Masaki and George think he can't use powerful magic because he is not used to low-spec CAD but they are wrong, it's because they don't know his magic skills are naturally weak.

[nosaer]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

No, his psion waves didn't knock out his opponent. That is a significant and very important distinction from being incapable of doing so. We already know that he actually is capable of knocking out people with that attack: he did so at the end of episode 2.

Those are 2 similar attacks, but they aren't the same attack. He can't use the same magic from his fight with hattori because the competition grade cad is too weak. against hattori he used loop cast to create 3 varying oscilations focusing on his position. in monolith code he used a different type of resonance attack that obviously wasn't strong enough to knock the guy out. under his current circumstances, he's incapable of doing so because if its not Tatsuya's specialized magic he's not very good at it lol.

anyways I'm looking forward to seeing the first vs third high championship match next episode. hopefully it is as epic animated as it was written.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

It not like that. CAD's efficiency depends on how they are calibrated, with his Trident he can use 3 psion waves in a row and does it because his magic skills are weak. A more competent magician would be able to knock out someone by using it only one time.

The description given in the anime makes it sound as if the three waves are a requirement: a single wave, no matter how powerful, wouldn't cut it. It's the resonance between the waves, the slight variance he can introduce, that causes the effect.

Those are 2 similar attacks, but they aren't the same attack. He can't use the same magic from his fight with hattori because the competition grade cad is too weak. against hattori he used loop cast to create 3 varying oscilations focusing on his position. in monolith code he used a different type of resonance attack that obviously wasn't strong enough to knock the guy out.

Hmm... Looking at it, you may be correct. There's some variance in the descriptions and in the representation.

[Rava]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

The description given in the anime makes it sound as if the three waves are a requirement: a single wave, no matter how powerful, wouldn't cut it. It's the resonance between the waves, the slight variance he can introduce, that causes the effect.



Hmm... Looking at it, you may be correct. There's some variance in the descriptions and in the representation.

Well, IIRC, the way it was described, he was trying to use a "biological wave" as the third wave during the competition, whereas on Hattori he just created the third wave on his own.

[Echizen777]

The magic used to knock out Hanzo and the one used in the 9SC are the same, Resonance but there is a big difference, it's the CAD. Against Hanzo he had his trusted Trident, so he was able to shoot 3 psion waves consecutively with Loop Cast. Besides his victory, the onlookers were also surprised because with his mediocre magic skills he should not be able to send waves that strong, his calculations helped him to send 3 waves with different output. Basically with his personal CAD and calculations, his 3 weak waves can have an effect comparable to the Resonance of a strong magician without the Loop Cast system.

In the 9SC, he had a low-spec CAD without the LC system so he could only send one of his weak psion waves, that's why his target was not as affected as Hanzo and why Masaki had nothing to fear because this level of Resonance would not even affect him.

[iceyfw]

asking these questions with limited information, wiki knowledge, and a quick skim of the light novel up to volume 13.

am i right to say tatsuya and miyuki receive barely any character development up to the latest light novel? it seems that way to me after i skimmed through everything. tbh i just wanted to stop skimming after i came to that conclusion. they were more or less the exact same people from reading volume 1. their beliefs, morals, virtues, ethics all remained the same. basically they have no internal conflict about themselves or life at all

so what exactly is the main plot? it can't possibly be the slice of life, magic combat, double life of tatsuya. or is it? all i know is tatsuya wants to overthrow the yotsuba clan for miyuki's sake. if so, holy cow that is one slow plot progression with way too many subplots and they're still showing the politics of the world tatsuya and miyuki live in! at this point is the author even done writing about the politics? i thought we were done reading about politics until i read the 10 R&D labs in volume 13.

does tatsuya even come close to dying in any battle? i was aware he is a mary stu but not to this extent. the guy doesn't even struggle at all to win his battles.

did the web novel even progress towards the main plot at all before it became a light novel?

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by iceyfw

asking these questions with limited information, wiki knowledge, and a quick skim of the light novel up to volume 13.

am i right to say tatsuya and miyuki receive barely any character development up to the latest light novel? it seems that way to me after i skimmed through everything. tbh i just wanted to stop skimming after i came to that conclusion. they were more or less the exact same people from reading volume 1. their beliefs, morals, virtues, ethics all remained the same. basically they have no internal conflict about themselves or life at all

"More of less the exact same people"... Because a character needs to completely change after a long time.

so what exactly is the main plot? it can't possibly be the slice of life, magic combat, double life of tatsuya. or is it? all i know is tatsuya wants to overthrow the yotsuba clan for miyuki's sake. if so, holy cow that is one slow plot progression with way too many subplots and they're still showing the politics of the world tatsuya and miyuki live in! at this point is the author even done writing about the politics? i thought we were done reading about politics until i read the 10 R&D labs in volume 13.

Tatsuya's goal is not to overthrow the Yotsuba. There is no main plot, only subplots.

does tatsuya even come close to dying in any battle? i was aware he is a mary stu but not to this extent. the guy doesn't even struggle at all to win his battles.

Clearly you just "skimmed through". Most of his battle were not fights to death or against magicians not at his level. To not lose and not struggle are completely different. You should "skim through" the Visitor arc more for example.

did the web novel even progress towards the main plot at all before it became a light novel?

The WN stopped at volume 12, which is already adapted in LN format.


A LN is not something where you can just "skim through", your questions just seem to be complaints in a convoluted form.

[iceyfw]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

"More of less the exact same people"... Because a character needs to completely change after a long time.



Tatsuya's goal is not to overthrow the Yotsuba. There is no main plot, only subplots.



Clearly you just "skimmed through". Most of his battle were not fights to death or against magicians not at his level. To not lose and not struggle are completely different. You should "skim through" the Visitor arc more for example.



The WN stopped at volume 12, which is already adapted in LN format.


A LN is not something where you can just "skim through", your questions just seem to be complaints in a convoluted form.

did my questions really come off as complaints? sorry to hear read that. that's pretty disappointing there is no main plot to continually progress towards while all these subplots are going on. that's just me though i'm sure.

it is true a character needs to completely change due to character development but i have not seen or read anything to trigger that development. is there really nothing that jumpstarts that character development for tatsuya and miyuki so far?

i ask these since this is a Q&A thread and i do look for what the main plot is and what the character developments are like. it is why i skimmed. it's already seen mahouka has plenty of subplots so that was not a concern of mine. i do have other things to do at night after work most of the time and i use the spare time wisely to know if it's worth my time for what i look for in a story.

thanks for answering the previous questions. it looks like i'll be moving on towards other things now.

edit: also no need to sound obnoxious with using quotations marks around skimming every time. i skim through a story to see if it has what i look for in a story like i explained. if there is anything that bothers me, then i come to Q&A threads like these around various forum boards to verify.

[Rava]

Originally Posted by iceyfw

did my questions really come off as complaints? sorry to hear read that. that's pretty disappointing there is no main plot to continually progress towards while all these subplots are going on. that's just me though i'm sure.

That's...not completely true. Tatsuya has his goal of making that magic-based reactor of his. A lot of what happens has appeared to advanced that goal in some way. And IIRC, the goal either requires or is heavily implied to require solving with what the series calls the "Three Great Mysteries of Modern Magic" in order to work.

Originally Posted by iceyfw

it is true a character needs to completely change due to character development but i have not seen or read anything to trigger that development. is there really nothing that jumpstarts that character development for tatsuya and miyuki so far?

I really don't recommend using that kind of standard for the story. This isn't exactly a "Protagonist lives and becomes a more complex person" kind of a story. This is more of a "Watch the mastermind villain (Tatsuya) plan his goals" kind of a story. That being said, you do find out aspects of Tatsuya and Miyuki that weren't presented immediately as time goes on, simply because there wasn't enough information to work with initially.

[bietchie11]

Originally Posted by iceyfw

asking these questions with limited information, wiki knowledge, and a quick skim of the light novel up to volume 13.

am i right to say tatsuya and miyuki receive barely any character development up to the latest light novel? it seems that way to me after i skimmed through everything. tbh i just wanted to stop skimming after i came to that conclusion. they were more or less the exact same people from reading volume 1. their beliefs, morals, virtues, ethics all remained the same. basically they have no internal conflict about themselves or life at all

so what exactly is the main plot? it can't possibly be the slice of life, magic combat, double life of tatsuya. or is it? all i know is tatsuya wants to overthrow the yotsuba clan for miyuki's sake. if so, holy cow that is one slow plot progression with way too many subplots and they're still showing the politics of the world tatsuya and miyuki live in! at this point is the author even done writing about the politics? i thought we were done reading about politics until i read the 10 R&D labs in volume 13.

does tatsuya even come close to dying in any battle? i was aware he is a mary stu but not to this extent. the guy doesn't even struggle at all to win his battles.

did the web novel even progress towards the main plot at all before it became a light novel?

My question to you is : is there really a need for a character development?
If he is a criminal-borderline pervert like the MC in DxD or she is a bitch like the MH in Zero, i would scream for character development.
But when he is the ideal shounen in a shoujo manga and she is the ideal shoujo in a shounen manga, i think they are good as they are now.
"ya don't fix what aren't broken."

Regarding "plot", I would ask you this: what is the main plot of you own real life story?

As i said, people want "character development" because the characters are not to their liking and they want to change them out. I'm curious what kind of character you want Tatsuya and Miyuki become?

[Ultragunner]

about the "internal conflicts about themselves or life", there are...plenty!!! No really, on both side of Tatsuya and Miyuki.

Also, this LN is not about might vs might. It's more about how you use your power. Tatsuya himself is at the top of the world in term of destructive prowess, BUT he can't just go and destroy the world, can he? He did struggle in many of the fights, yes he had to hold back a lot due to many reasons (which are interesting by themselves)

About the plot, well, it's not save the world like Naruto ATM , if I had to sum it up, then I guess "it is about Tatsuya struggling, not in term if power, but in many aspects to fit in and perhaps change the world (for his imouto )". *Note: it's not revenge like in Code Geass

[iceyfw]

Originally Posted by bietchie11

My question to you is : is there really a need for a character development?
If he is a criminal-borderline pervert like the MC in DxD or she is a bitch like the MH in Zero, i would scream for character development.
But when he is the ideal shounen in a shoujo manga and she is the ideal shoujo in a shounen manga, i think they are good as they are now.
"ya don't fix what aren't broken."

Regarding "plot", I would ask you this: what is the main plot of you own real life story?

As i said, people want "character development" because the characters are not to their liking and they want to change them out. I'm curious what kind of character you want Tatsuya and Miyuki become?

character development for me pretty important for me when reading or watching. i take what back what i said about character development earlier. there were some but not a whole lot. it is not a strong focus point for mahouka.

also asking a question to a question to answer a question to make the person answer your question is pretty evasive and rude. i am not about to tell parts of my personal life to the world wide web or in this case on this forum.

and i'm not one to think to myself "Wow, I wish this character would be like this instead of this." if i'm reading or watching. i'm along for the ride and that is all. now whether i liked what i read or watched is another thing. i view character development as a way to change the pace and direction of where a story, plot, and subplots will head towards to. it's not because i don't like how the characters are written.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by bietchie11

My question to you is : is there really a need for a character development?
If he is a criminal-borderline pervert like the MC in DxD or she is a bitch like the MH in Zero, i would scream for character development.
But when he is the ideal shounen in a shoujo manga and she is the ideal shoujo in a shounen manga, i think they are good as they are now.
"ya don't fix what aren't broken."

Regarding "plot", I would ask you this: what is the main plot of you own real life story?

As i said, people want "character development" because the characters are not to their liking and they want to change them out. I'm curious what kind of character you want Tatsuya and Miyuki become?

Are you talking about Miyuki or Erika; Erika would fit as the ideal type of shoujo manga; but Miyuki doesnt. Miyuki lack the resolve to be a shoujou manga heroine.

[bietchie11]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Are you talking about Miyuki or Erika; Erika would fit as the ideal type of shoujo manga; but Miyuki doesnt. Miyuki lack the resolve to be a shoujou manga heroine.

Please, pampz21 i'm having a serious conversation here.

I do believe both have what it takes to accompany Tatsuya wherever he goes, even to hell.
But since when did i talked about Erika....

[bietchie11]

Originally Posted by iceyfw

character development for me pretty important for me when reading or watching. i take what back what i said about character development earlier. there were some but not a whole lot. it is not a strong focus point for mahouka.

also asking a question to a question to answer a question to make the person answer your question is pretty evasive and rude. i am not about to tell parts of my personal life to the world wide web or in this case on this forum.

and i'm not one to think to myself "Wow, I wish this character would be like this instead of this." if i'm reading or watching. i'm along for the ride and that is all. now whether i liked what i read or watched is another thing. i view character development as a way to change the pace and direction of where a story, plot, and subplots will head towards to. it's not because i don't like how the characters are written.

My life has no "main plot".
Do you think my whole precious life would be limited to one puny "main plot"?

No, i as well as most people are far more awesome than that. Our life consist of many many "main plot", which they call "sub-plot" for they are many.
You don't look at someone's biography and ask: "what's the main plot of this ... work?" do you?

As for Mahouka, the plot is still in the dark and it's the charm of it. It keeps me thinking, just like Pendragon books.
Only until recent volume (12 &13- the second year), we know all previous events connect with each others.. I think the pace is good.

If i come off as rude, please pardon me. It's just a rhetorical question. i did not intent to interrogate you or anything.

[jjong]

Question, I am not sure if this is answered or not but did any figure out that Tat is part of Ten Clans? In what Vol was that in?

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by jjong

Question, I am not sure if this is answered or not but did any figure out that Tat is part of Ten Clans? In what Vol was that in?

Erika vol. 11

[zerozeronine]

Originally Posted by jjong

Question, I am not sure if this is answered or not but did any figure out that Tat is part of Ten Clans? In what Vol was that in?

And Mayumi vol 5 last chapter,bathroom scene,but not to the extent of Erika's realization.