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Guardian Enzo · 2022-12-04, 05:08

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Did I read the news correctly or did your former president-elect call for the trashing of the US constitution over webcam porn?

He's over, and he knows it. The midterms sealed his doom as the leader of the party - just a question of how many of them he's able to take down with him. The main goal right now is to distract as much attention as possible from his impending legal apocalypse while trying to figure out a way to escape to a country with no extradition treaty.

The Green One · 2022-12-04, 08:02

The Constitution, thus the law, is only valid when it serves my interests.

I hear your dictator delusions loud and clear you clown.

cyberdemon · 2022-12-04, 08:14

He’s desperate. The law is hounding him at all turns and he needs the protection of the presidency to make them go away instead of trying to prove his innocence like a normal person would. He feels threatened by DeSantis who could reasonably win because DeSantis hasn’t pissed off the moderate voters like Trump has. MAGA could get Trump the nomination but without moderates he will fail to win presidency.

mangamuscle · 2022-12-04, 13:00

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

MAGA could get Trump the nomination but without moderates he will fail to win presidency.

I am not so sure about that, six years ago many republicans voted for him because they expected some fresh air into politics. Nowadays trump stench cant be coated with the best of propaganda *waves@elon musk* so imo many republicans would vote in the primaries for a safer bet *coff*deSantis*coff* of hard core conservatism.

cyberdemon · 2022-12-04, 20:29

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Originally Posted by mangamuscle

I am not so sure about that, six years ago many republicans voted for him because they expected some fresh air into politics. Nowadays trump stench cant be coated with the best of propaganda *waves@elon musk* so imo many republicans would vote in the primaries for a safer bet *coff*deSantis*coff* of hard core conservatism.

And those were the moderate votes. The people who look beyond party to find that “fresh air of politics”. Trump has them scared now about the future if he is re-elected. Republicans would do well to distance themselves from him. If he gets the nomination then they will likely lose far more than just a few seats in congress.

The Green One · 2022-12-04, 22:28

Unlike last time now they have a "Trump" option in DeSantis that isn't an unrepentant criminal.

Guardian Enzo · 2022-12-04, 22:49

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Originally Posted by The Green One

Unlike last time now they have a "Trump" option in DeSantis that isn't an unrepentant criminal.

Other than the human trafficking thing.

The Green One · 2022-12-05, 08:36

It's certainly morally and ethically sketchy, but a legal loophole as long as the transport is "voluntary."

How voluntary it actually was is open to debate, *cough*argument*cough*, but isn't technically illegal under those rules.

Key Board · 2022-12-05, 08:45

Trump Jr openly pushing Russian propaganda about Ukraine now
Did he replace his father as main asset

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ramlaen · 2022-12-05, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Other than the human trafficking thing.

Wasn't it funny that there was finally outrage at "human trafficking" when the people were being sent to a rich white neighborhood.

cyberdemon · 2022-12-06, 22:55

Disturbing that the Georgia runoff was as close as it was. If only the GOP thought to run a candidate that wasn’t so… stupid they would’ve won easily. This is what happens when you let parties, and former presidents… decide politics

The Green One · 2022-12-07, 00:57

How many times must the Republicans burn their fingers on the hot stove before they finally stop touching it? The world may never know....

Key Board · 2022-12-07, 06:50

not touching a hot stove is "woke" behavior

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Guardian Enzo · 2022-12-07, 17:08

How come they didn't "win easily" in 2020 when they had two incumbent Senators lose?

GA is a swing state. Partisanship is so locked in now that the quality of the candidates - especially in an inelastic electorate like Georgia - matters maybe 2-3%. Which is the exact margin between Warnock's win and a toss-up.

stray · 2022-12-07, 20:57

GA and AZ will probably stay pretty blue going forward, too many transplants changed the electorate there.

Guardian Enzo · 2022-12-08, 03:48

As much as anything it's the Republicans kissing off the suburban vote with Trumpism. As somebody said on twitter a couple of weeks ago, the essence of the issue comes down to "suburbanites don't like weird shit".

The Green One · 2023-01-03, 21:48

Despite McCarthy practically rolling over for the Hard Right and giving them practically whatever they want they still won't vote for him. Three times now. Repubs just barely won a majority in the house and they can't even get started. How pitiful.

mangamuscle · 2023-01-04, 11:04

For decades now the repubs have searched power "no matter the cost". They thought they could control the crazies aka trumpists but they were wrong and finally it is time to pay. This will go down in the history books as the most disfunctional house of representatives in history. This will be a three ring circus where the clowns are on fire, literally.

ramlaen · 2023-01-04, 17:40

In a year no one will remember that it took a couple extra days to pick a speaker of the House just as no one remembers that two years ago both the House and Senate were locked up in a partisan impeachment attempt.

But at least this time isn't during the outbreak of a pandemic.

The Green One · 2023-01-04, 20:15

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Originally Posted by ramlaen

In a year no one will remember that it took a couple extra days to pick a speaker of the House just as no one remembers that two years ago both the House and Senate were locked up in a partisan impeachment attempt.

But at least this time isn't during the outbreak of a pandemic.

It's only the first time a second Speaker Ballot was needed in the last 100 years. Nothing of note surely.

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Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	Trump Jr openly pushing Russian propaganda about Ukraine now Did he replace his father as main asset // __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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cyberdemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	Disturbing that the Georgia runoff was as close as it was. If only the GOP thought to run a candidate that wasn’t so… stupid they would’ve won easily. This is what happens when you let parties, and former presidents… decide politics __________________

2022-12-07, 00:57	Link #532
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	How many times must the Republicans burn their fingers on the hot stove before they finally stop touching it? The world may never know.... __________________

2022-12-07, 06:50	Link #533
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	not touching a hot stove is "woke" behavior // __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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stray Classic Tsun de rais Join Date: Jun 2008	GA and AZ will probably stay pretty blue going forward, too many transplants changed the electorate there.

2023-01-03, 21:48	Link #537
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Despite McCarthy practically rolling over for the Hard Right and giving them practically whatever they want they still won't vote for him. Three times now. Repubs just barely won a majority in the house and they can't even get started. How pitiful. __________________

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mangamuscle formerly ogon bat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mexico Age: 52	For decades now the repubs have searched power "no matter the cost". They thought they could control the crazies aka trumpists but they were wrong and finally it is time to pay. This will go down in the history books as the most disfunctional house of representatives in history. This will be a three ring circus where the clowns are on fire, literally.

2023-01-04, 17:40	Link #539
ramlaen Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	In a year no one will remember that it took a couple extra days to pick a speaker of the House just as no one remembers that two years ago both the House and Senate were locked up in a partisan impeachment attempt. But at least this time isn't during the outbreak of a pandemic.