Clannad ~After Story~ - Episode 21 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

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[hydropod]

Spoiler for :

All I can say is.... Ushio.... and Kyoani better not mess up the last episode....

[SidVicious]

I'm a little anxious.

For those who already saw the episode...what do you think about it? (no spoliers, of course)

[SnackPacs]

Well suffice to say, it was obvious this was a conversationally focused episode and only the big stuff was able to be noticed without an understanding of moonspeak.

Spoiler for Episode Spoilers:

Well... Even without the understanding, I still cried. It lead through just like episode 16, same music, same slow progression of the problems, etc... It was just sad to see it happening like it was. Especially when after the mid break, they used the same music again...

The Ushio death scene however, felt visually similar to the death for Misuzu, in the whole sense of the dying in their parent's arms thing. Naturally, I doubt it was the same text but still, it felt strongly familiar.

ANNNNDDDDD nothing from the preview. Expected of course.

One... more... week...

[SnackPacs]

Originally Posted by SidVicious

I'm a little anxious.

For those who already saw the episode...what do you think about it? (no spoliers, of course)

Upsetting... Expected... Sad?

I can't say much without spoiling other than...

Spoiler for Example of What to Expect:

Expect it to be a near re-tread of episode 16, sans the comedy.

[Jimmy C]

So, question

Spoiler:

Death at middle or end of episode?

That'll tell us how much ground the last episode needs to cover.

[Freeter]

Haven't seen it yet, but...

Spoiler for uso da:

...Ushio dies? Are you kidding me? She was already growing on me, and now she's gone? What the hell...

I hope someone or something gets Tomoya's spirits up. Can't go through four eps of emo-fest.

[kyomagi]

theres one episode left, the last 2 are side stories before the events of the beginning of season 1

[serenade_beta]

...Right... Again? It was depressing, but it was hardly all that sad since, well, again? Did key run out of "emotional" developments and decided to reuse the same ol' tragedy?... *laugh* Well, it is key, after all.
More importantly, Tomoya, don't bring sick kids half-dead into the cold outside.

middle or end of episode?

Near end.

[Proto]

@serenade_beta

Spoiler for this episode:

i won't comment much till I see the episode myself, but there was a reason for this tragedy to repeat itself in almost the exact same way. I dunno how well KyoAni conveyed this, hence why I say that I will hold further comments till then.

[Dextro]

Damn I can't wait to see what happens this episode... I've already been spoiled enough but I'm still very curious to see how things play out in the anime.

I'm starting to grow really found of Ushio and I'll be very sad if anything bad happens to her

[MeoTwister5]

Time to put on my firefighter gear.

@VN gamers

So... did the episode do "it" better than the game? Frankly I didn't like how the game did it at all. A simple yes or no answer will do, so no spoilers come out.

@None-VN watchers

Whatever happens at this point, there's really only 1 episode left so unless KyotoAni screws it up, the final episode should not disappoint. So those of you who think of dropping this because of whatever happens on this episode, I really suggest you let it finish.

[VRMN]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

@VN gamers

So... did the episode do "it" better than the game? Frankly I didn't like how the game did it at all. A simple yes or no answer will do, so no spoilers come out.

Yes. That said...well, that just about dashes my hopes for a lengthy epilogue. Can't say I'm shocked, I pretty much counted it out the second I learned that 22 was to be the final regular episode, but eh, can't help but be disappointed slightly by it. They simply have too much ground to cover in 22 to extend the ending, despite my best wishes. I can wish that episode 24 will do that anyway, but I'm quite certain that's going to wind up as a Kyou Arc, a la episode 24 of the first season.

As for THIS episode, I can't say I didn't see it coming. Partly because I'm a veteran of the visual novel and knew it was coming. Doesn't make it less sad, but at least KyoAni improved upon what was a rather lackluster scene in the original work. The transition into the Illusionary World should have made it very clear what the tie is between the two worlds, but...well, we'll see how many people get it before they spell it out in the next episode.

All in all, a good episode and a nice segue into the finale. A little rushed, but, well, so was the original version. Time for the endgame.

[panzerfan]

This episode steamrolled through me honestly. I don't think I have the time to reflect, and barely to digest before blasted Torch comes up.

My feelings from this episode actually is trying to reorient myself. Even if I know of the plot, I felt like a deer caught in front of the headlights. Maybe it's for the best that I don't sit on it and having to sulk over the Furukawa and Tomoya's lots, at least not until I finished the episode.

[Ushio]

This was too sad. I wonder how the last episode will be?

At any rate, I loved this episode, as sad as it was. =|

[laksmkk]

I wasn't that sad because I knew what was coming. anyways I give 10/10 because it was well animated. I have a lot of expectation from next final episode.

[Leo_Otaku]

Hard to say anything without mentioning spoilers I will have to wait for the next one to make an actual comment if Kyo-ani did do it for us V/N players? I don't know >.> I'm thinking partly yes they left us hanging.

[Proto]

I think the main reason that made this episode different from episode 16 and 18 is the different of emotions it evokes. In episode 16 it was mainly a crushed hope, a truncated future. In ep 18 it was redemption, catharsis. However in this one the main theme, was just fighting against an unbeatable destiny. One perfectly knew what was coming, and as such one doesn't feel that emotionally involved to the events in this episode... only on a first level. It is when one realizes what that heavy feeling on your chest is, that isn't exactly tears, but just and plainly hopelessness that one feels the full emotional turmoil of the episode. All at once.

[MeoTwister5]

Fine. I'll watch the raws. If KyotoAni sticks to tradition then I'm sure I'm going to consider this episode my least favorite of the series, due almost entirely on the nature of the source material. At the very least, I hope KyotoAni does it better, because Key certainly didn't pull it off well. IMHO at least.

[Mecha_Trueno]

This is depressing man... she's only FIVE
Kyoani, no wait, KEY is cruel man...