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tsurumaru · 2003-11-07, 23:41

Well I decided to revive this thread. (its a slow burner)

I recently finished this series, having read all 12 volumes of Kitoh san's interesting work. Those of you who were around before the forum incident will know I didn't like the ending, but I still think this is a unique series nonetheless which touches on some important topics in society. Therefore fans of the series can post here with their thoughts and any requests you may have.

One day I hope to get around to building a website but untill then I'll post any relevant info here.

Quarkboy · 2003-11-08, 01:27

I've started reading the manga too (after watching the anime series) since I loved the anime so much, but I kindof don't read japanese yet (I just started taking japanese this year). It's slow going (looking up basically every kanji as I go), but I've gotten through a chapter and a half (25 & 26)!

Does anyone know if there are translations available for the later volumes (not scanlations, just translations)? I think this was asked before in the old thread...
At this rate, I'll maybe finish volume 6 in about a year....(I started on volume 5 since the english versions are almost up to that part).

Koshiba · 2003-11-08, 02:46

I *really* want to check out the manga but sadly, I can't read japanese. Plus I heard the english version was "censored", I tend to stay away from anything censored. ^_^;

tsurumaru · 2003-11-08, 11:40

Hey guys,

As far as I can tell there hasn't been any real censoring of the English Language manga version yet (possibly some slight alterations regarding conversational topics).
Dark Horse should be in the middle of translating Volume 5 at the moment and it is only in the infamous Vol 6 that will probably need to make some changes to a few frames (The events of EP 13 in the Anime).
These scenes in the original manga are pretty graphic (and therefore shocking) and I don't think that they could get away with publishing them in the US without some form of censorship. I believe the original author has also agreed to redraw the few affected frames, you can easily see the originals on the internet if you really want to....

I can't see any other points in the story that might be censored until Volume 10, and the translated release of that is a long way off.....

As for online translations of the later volumes, sorry I haven't managed to find any

Quarkboy · 2003-11-09, 19:34

I've noticed that the volumes of the english version don't correspond to the japanese volumes. Specifically:

English:
Volume 1: Prologue, Chapters 1-4
2: 5-10
3: 11-15
4: 16-20

But I know that japanese volume 5 (the first one I own) starts at chapter 24. So to those who own the japanese volumes, how do they correspond to the english versions?

Also, at this rate, the notorious "Volume 6" will be the notorious "Volume 7" in america. Also, since the japanese volume 6 was one BIG chapter (29), the english publishers are either going to have to split it over two volumes or make an extra short volume 6. Whoops! Bad planning on their part.

tsurumaru · 2003-11-09, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quarkboy

I've noticed that the volumes of the english version don't correspond to the japanese volumes. Specifically:

English:
Volume 1: Prologue, Chapters 1-4
2: 5-10
3: 11-15
4: 16-20

But I know that japanese volume 5 (the first one I own) starts at chapter 24. So to those who own the japanese volumes, how do they correspond to the english versions?

Also, at this rate, the notorious "Volume 6" will be the notorious "Volume 7" in america. Also, since the japanese volume 6 was one BIG chapter (29), the english publishers are either going to have to split it over two volumes or make an extra short volume 6. Whoops! Bad planning on their part.

Hmm, I don't have the English Language versions, but here's a breakdown of the chapters in the Japanese versions:

Vol 1: Prologue and Chapters 1-5.

Vol 2: Chapters 6-13.

Vol 3: Chapters 14-20.

Vol 4: Chapters 21-23.

Vol 5: Chapters 24-28.

Vol 6: Chapter 29.

Vol 7: Chapters 30-38. (Anime series ends here with altered chapter 34, having skipped chapters 30-33)

Vol 8: Chapters 39-44.

Vol 9: Chapters 45-48.

Vol 10: Chapters 49 & 50.

Vol 11: Chapters 51-61.

Vol 12: (When its released) Chapters 62-68.

If I get really bored I'll try to translate the chapter titles and add them here

.

I might also get around to adding a Volume synopsis and also possibly a spoilers section........

It depends if there is a demand for it........

durrem · 2003-11-11, 20:32

Well, Darkhorse is putting out, what, two books a year. So we should see the end of this series in about 6 years.

Mazus · 2003-11-14, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsurumaru

I might also get around to adding a Volume synopsis and also possibly a spoilers section........

It depends if there is a demand for it........

I would love a volume synopsis. I am dying to know what happens after the anime ended.

Nagare Ryouma · 2003-11-17, 08:54

Off topic but, this manga called Wings of Vendemiaire.... Is it by the same author of NaruTaru? I heard it's as gruesome as NT...... The only difference is that it's got lot's of short stories. Anybody?

Flash_Squirrel · 2003-11-17, 09:27

Yeah, Wings of Vendemiaire is from Mohiro Kitoh, the same artist who did Narutaru.

Flash_Squirrel · 2003-11-30, 08:14

Ok, its not really double post since I just want to do some reviving.

This is mainly directed to tsurumaru.. ^^;

Spoiler:

gravitation · 2003-11-30, 12:59

today i was up London in a comic shop and they had shadow star(narutaru), they only had about 2 volumes but i noticed that it was a bit priceyer than mangas usually cost over here (normally about £8, but this was about £12 or summin) is it like that elsewhere? *i plan on buying it sometime coz the anime was kool*

tsurumaru · 2003-11-30, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash_Squirrel

Ok, its not really double post since I just want to do some reviving.

This is mainly directed to tsurumaru.. ^^;

Spoiler:

Hey Flash, answers are below:

Spoiler:

Grav - Yeah for some reason Dark Horse's graphic novels are damn expensive! (Out of all of the American imports) However definitely recommend you get Volume one for the extra story parts they left out of the Anime.

Flash_Squirrel · 2003-11-30, 20:58

But how did Hoshimaru managed to create such a powerful gun? Isnt the level of the guns related to the dragonchild's knowledge?

tsurumaru · 2003-12-01, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash_Squirrel

But how did Hoshimaru managed to create such a powerful gun? Isnt the level of the guns related to the dragonchild's knowledge?

Spoiler:

Xiandu · 2003-12-01, 14:34

Hey I want to buy the Japanese version of the manga and was just wondering if there is a website that does translations(not scanlations). I don't know japanese so I would need to have it translated. Reason I want the japan version is because the american version will be censored. This series is too deep to be censored imo, so I want to read it in its entire glory.

tsurumaru · 2003-12-03, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiandu

Hey I want to buy the Japanese version of the manga and was just wondering if there is a website that does translations(not scanlations). I don't know japanese so I would need to have it translated. Reason I want the japan version is because the american version will be censored. This series is too deep to be censored imo, so I want to read it in its entire glory.

Hi Xiandu,

Sorry dont know of any online translations of such as of yet, I believe there were a few chapters scanslations until the series was licensed by Dark Horse but these run only into the first few chapters (and you'd be better off with the official Dark Horse version).
As for the "censoring" well the German version wasn't toned down all that much.... I'm not sure about the American version though, as some of the conversational topics that the series has, have already been subtly toned down. Hmm.....

Wolki · 2003-12-04, 07:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsurumaru

As for the "censoring" well the German version wasn't toned down all that much.... I'm not sure about the American version though, as some of the conversational topics that the series has, have already been subtly toned down. Hmm.....

some of the controversial topics were toned down in the German version too, a certain dialogue in vol. 1 for instance... but not as much as I remember from the DH version, you can still figure out what it means o_O
I'd say wait until the Dark Horse version is released, I hope they won't change that much... the German version was slightly censored but that didn't affect the effect of vol 6 in any way, and I can live with that.

wolki

Flash_Squirrel · 2004-02-07, 15:16

Let's revive this thread, since it seems like there is a new interest concerning Narutaru.

TronDD · 2004-02-08, 01:10

Well, in an effort to revive the thread...

I have read up to Vol 3 of the English Manga. I'll pick up 4 and 5 once 5 is released in a couple of days. So far, I don't notice any censoring of anything. I am curious what was toned down in Vol 1 of the German version. Does anyone know of any changes so far to the American release?

I also bought the Japanese versions, though I haven't recieved them yet, so I'll at least have all the correct artwork. Maybe I'll learn Japanese and translate it too.

Oh, and I loved Wings of Vendemiaire. I can't even describe what it's like. It's very eerie and strange. I have high hopes for Bokurano. The first volume seems very lighthearted, similar to most people's impressions of Narutaru's first episode.

2003-11-07, 23:41	Link #1
tsurumaru I refuse to die dammit! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: UK Age: 47	Narutaru (Shadowstar) Manga Well I decided to revive this thread. (its a slow burner) I recently finished this series, having read all 12 volumes of Kitoh san's interesting work. Those of you who were around before the forum incident will know I didn't like the ending, but I still think this is a unique series nonetheless which touches on some important topics in society. Therefore fans of the series can post here with their thoughts and any requests you may have. One day I hope to get around to building a website but untill then I'll post any relevant info here.

2003-11-08, 01:27	Link #2
Quarkboy Translator, Producer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Age: 44	I've started reading the manga too (after watching the anime series) since I loved the anime so much, but I kindof don't read japanese yet (I just started taking japanese this year). It's slow going (looking up basically every kanji as I go), but I've gotten through a chapter and a half (25 & 26)! Does anyone know if there are translations available for the later volumes (not scanlations, just translations)? I think this was asked before in the old thread... At this rate, I'll maybe finish volume 6 in about a year....(I started on volume 5 since the english versions are almost up to that part). __________________ Read Light Novels in English at J-Novel Club! Translator, Producer, Japan Media Export Expert Founder and Owner of J-Novel Club Sam Pinansky

2003-11-09, 19:34	Link #5
Quarkboy Translator, Producer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Age: 44	I've noticed that the volumes of the english version don't correspond to the japanese volumes. Specifically: English: Volume 1: Prologue, Chapters 1-4 2: 5-10 3: 11-15 4: 16-20 But I know that japanese volume 5 (the first one I own) starts at chapter 24. So to those who own the japanese volumes, how do they correspond to the english versions? Also, at this rate, the notorious "Volume 6" will be the notorious "Volume 7" in america. Also, since the japanese volume 6 was one BIG chapter (29), the english publishers are either going to have to split it over two volumes or make an extra short volume 6. Whoops! Bad planning on their part. __________________ Read Light Novels in English at J-Novel Club! Translator, Producer, Japan Media Export Expert Founder and Owner of J-Novel Club Sam Pinansky

2003-11-30, 08:14	Link #11
Flash_Squirrel F&C Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saiph	Ok, its not really double post since I just want to do some reviving. This is mainly directed to tsurumaru.. ^^; Spoiler: Well, Im utterly clueless right now.. Im just after the scene where Amapora morphs and fights with shiina (when the little princess blows away the new formed Amapora). Why the hell is there a... private.. scene with Satomi? Is that something connected to the fact that the new Amapora got blown away? Just shed some light on that, WITHOUT spoilers.. Ah, and why Tsurumaru is so obsessed with Shiina?

2003-11-08, 02:46	Link #3
Koshiba Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lakeland, Florida Age: 34	I really want to check out the manga but sadly, I can't read japanese. Plus I heard the english version was "censored", I tend to stay away from anything censored. ^_^;

2003-11-08, 11:40	Link #4
tsurumaru I refuse to die dammit! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: UK Age: 47	Hey guys, As far as I can tell there hasn't been any real censoring of the English Language manga version yet (possibly some slight alterations regarding conversational topics). Dark Horse should be in the middle of translating Volume 5 at the moment and it is only in the infamous Vol 6 that will probably need to make some changes to a few frames (The events of EP 13 in the Anime). These scenes in the original manga are pretty graphic (and therefore shocking) and I don't think that they could get away with publishing them in the US without some form of censorship. I believe the original author has also agreed to redraw the few affected frames, you can easily see the originals on the internet if you really want to.... I can't see any other points in the story that might be censored until Volume 10, and the translated release of that is a long way off..... As for online translations of the later volumes, sorry I haven't managed to find any

2003-11-11, 20:32	Link #7
durrem [megaplay] sparkles Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milpitas, CA, USA	Well, Darkhorse is putting out, what, two books a year. So we should see the end of this series in about 6 years.

2003-11-17, 08:54	Link #9
Nagare Ryouma Warrior Of Eternity Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Saotome Research Institute	Off topic but, this manga called Wings of Vendemiaire.... Is it by the same author of NaruTaru? I heard it's as gruesome as NT...... The only difference is that it's got lot's of short stories. Anybody?

2003-11-17, 09:27	Link #10
Flash_Squirrel F&C Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saiph	Yeah, Wings of Vendemiaire is from Mohiro Kitoh, the same artist who did Narutaru.

2003-11-30, 12:59	Link #12
gravitation Don't use animesuki now.. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: London, UK Age: 34	today i was up London in a comic shop and they had shadow star(narutaru), they only had about 2 volumes but i noticed that it was a bit priceyer than mangas usually cost over here (normally about £8, but this was about £12 or summin) is it like that elsewhere? i plan on buying it sometime coz the anime was kool

2003-11-30, 20:58	Link #14
Flash_Squirrel F&C Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saiph	But how did Hoshimaru managed to create such a powerful gun? Isnt the level of the guns related to the dragonchild's knowledge?

2003-12-01, 14:34	Link #16
Xiandu Destroyer of the God Deus Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Carlsbad CA Age: 45	Hey I want to buy the Japanese version of the manga and was just wondering if there is a website that does translations(not scanlations). I don't know japanese so I would need to have it translated. Reason I want the japan version is because the american version will be censored. This series is too deep to be censored imo, so I want to read it in its entire glory.

2004-02-07, 15:16	Link #19
Flash_Squirrel F&C Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saiph	Let's revive this thread, since it seems like there is a new interest concerning Narutaru.

2004-02-08, 01:10	Link #20
TronDD Team the box! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Badside	Well, in an effort to revive the thread... I have read up to Vol 3 of the English Manga. I'll pick up 4 and 5 once 5 is released in a couple of days. So far, I don't notice any censoring of anything. I am curious what was toned down in Vol 1 of the German version. Does anyone know of any changes so far to the American release? I also bought the Japanese versions, though I haven't recieved them yet, so I'll at least have all the correct artwork. Maybe I'll learn Japanese and translate it too. Oh, and I loved Wings of Vendemiaire. I can't even describe what it's like. It's very eerie and strange. I have high hopes for Bokurano. The first volume seems very lighthearted, similar to most people's impressions of Narutaru's first episode.