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2008-04-25, 19:53 | Link #21 | |
Not Enough Sleep
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: R'lyeh
Age: 48
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2008-04-25, 20:13 | Link #22 | |
Paparazzi
Join Date: Mar 2008
Age: 41
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I'm not saying that it's ok to abandon your parents but in this example all of the parties involved are acting like dipshits. And as said the whole scenario just doesn't make any sense what so ever. |
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2008-04-25, 20:16 | Link #23 |
Not Enough Sleep
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: R'lyeh
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In the orginal tv series, it the girl's uncle whos tole all that movie on a suppose joint project. And it wasn't the parent that was aginst the marriage but Grandma who couldn't stand being swindle out of that much money.
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2008-04-26, 11:13 | Link #25 |
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Join Date: May 2004
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Yea this is from a Asian place where image counts for a lot. The super bad image is not that they got stolen from. They can deal with that somewhat without going bankrupt. The bad image appears if the guy actually leaves with the girl, which will most likely force the company into bankruptcy. Even if the chance of bankruptcy isn't 100%, would you still take the risk? Some countries just work like that =\
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2008-04-26, 23:04 | Link #26 | |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
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You *are* marrying the family so stop pretending you aren't. If you can't stand them be prepared to move thousands of miles to mitigate the annoyance.
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2008-04-27, 08:25 | Link #28 |
I disagree with you all.
Join Date: Dec 2005
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I am somewhat disturbed by the assumption that romantic love and personal happiness are the most important things in the world. Seriously, maybe the guy should have eloped (if, say, the situation for the company wasn't as serious as described, and the parents weren't going to budged no matter what, even years after the fact, and putting them in front of the fait accompli (like grandchildren) was for the best, and so on...)
But I wouldn't say that, no matter the circumstances, he should only think of his own sorry couple, at the expense of everything else. And I don't think "pride" is the only reason for opposing the marriage. The girl is the daughter of thieves who didn't hesitate in biting the hand that fed them and hanging their own daughter out to dry. What if she's like them? |
2008-04-27, 11:25 | Link #29 | |
Hina is my goddess
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2008-04-27, 11:32 | Link #30 | ||
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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What's especially irking about the scenario is that it seems that the author didn't consider the parent's position so convincing either so he tried to secure it against all sides: it's not that they simply don't want. They would go bankrupt (would they?) and then the employees would be jobless (would they?). And last but not least: the guy's very existence is at stake. So it's not 'him' against 'society' (parents) but his decision concerns him very much personally in any case. All in all, small print gives a different message than the headline. BTW, thinking this through logically (what a joke) the girl must already be screwed with her parents gone. So no wonder she presses for a wedding. It's probably much harder for a woman to survive on her own than for a man, or a couple. Of course, it's easy for the script writer to secure the positions against that thought too. Quote:
One might consider romantic love a silly notion but then again what isn't. The party that can be 'congratulated' to be immune to romanticism of any type and acting purely rationally seems to be the girl's parents: Screw everybody, take the money, and run away. Sums it up quite nicely.
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2008-04-27, 12:14 | Link #31 | ||||
I disagree with you all.
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Rather than, you know, take the view that you can always find a new love, but you've only got one life. Last edited by Anh_Minh; 2008-04-27 at 15:24. |
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2008-04-29, 01:08 | Link #33 | |
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sorry, but it's the parents fault for trusting the girl's parents, the guy is not responsible for their faults and they just can't overrule him on whether he marries someone or not it's his life and only his. When the guy refuses to marry her it's common sense to ask him about his love and what he intends to do for it, I would feel betrayed and leave my partner when he hesitates, no need to blame the girl.
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2008-04-29, 03:21 | Link #34 | |
I disagree with you all.
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2008-04-29, 03:28 | Link #35 | |
kanpai!
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yes they should stay out of it, all they can do is talk to him and warn him.. this guy is an adult, right? He should face rl with the help of his parents, not under their command
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2008-04-29, 03:37 | Link #36 |
I disagree with you all.
Join Date: Dec 2005
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They haven't invested everything they have, and we don't know if they "shut down their brain". All we know is that they got burned because they trusted the girl's family.
As for the boy being an adult - sure, but that doesn't mean he has no responsibility toward his family anymore. Marriage is a big thing, that involves the family and the family business. The parents have every right to say they don't approve, and he has every right to think his parents' approval is more important than the girl's impatience. |
2008-04-29, 04:39 | Link #37 | ||
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and I don't see where the girl shows impatience, in fact first the guy went begging, then they were both begging, all according to the protocol or whatever.. they did everything they could to please the parents so they wouldn't loose their face and have the chance to show true greatness and allow the marriage
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2008-04-29, 04:46 | Link #38 | |||
I disagree with you all.
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2008-04-29, 05:47 | Link #39 | |
Paparazzi
Join Date: Mar 2008
Age: 41
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If the guy hooks up with someone else there's basically the same probability of the bitch taking of with the cash. I've seen over and over again children developing almost completely opposite personalities in comparison to their parents so running around claiming that you're thief because you're a son/daughter/neighbor/cousin/what ever of a thief is prejudice to an alarming extent. |
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2008-04-29, 06:24 | Link #40 | |
I disagree with you all.
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Or someone whose interests are in continued loyalty, and who's demonstratedly good at knowing where her interests are. A long term business alliance would have ensured the first half of that... if it'd worked. Now she's just someone they have no real hold over, and whose family has a history of thieving and of abandonning their own. So, yeah. I certainly think she'd bear watching some more before committing to a long term relationship with her. Note, even if her parents were saints, I wouldn't approve of rushing into marriage, no matter how much "in love" they are. But in the circumstances? I'd definitely like some indication she is committed. |
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