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ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2017-05-17, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Dengar

Is it a new game mechanic?

Like, a monster that grows more powerful when you place cards in assigned slots?

But how would you place a monster in "Bottom Left"? That's the spell card zone.

Think Union Monsters but far better

Marina2 · 2017-05-17, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengar

Is it a new game mechanic?

Like, a monster that grows more powerful when you place cards in assigned slots?

But how would you place a monster in "Bottom Left"? That's the spell card zone.

New mechanic comes with new type of card: Link Monster

This video is quick guild to understand it (choose sub eng)

EDIT: I put up the wrong clip, I just changed it to the new one.

Diluc · 2017-05-17, 10:21

I begin to grasping the concept of Link summon but the part with link monsters you able to summon xyz, synchro, pendulum, fusion monsters are still incomprehensible for me

Marina2 · 2017-05-17, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Roxis

I begin to grasping the concept of Link summon but the part with link monsters you able to summon xyz, synchro, pendulum, fusion monsters are still incomprehensible for me

Under new rules, you can only summon xyz, synchro, pendulum, and fusion monsters to [Extra Monster Zone] so basically without any link monster the field, each player can only have one xyz or synchro or pendulum or fusion monsters on the field.

If you have link monster, its arrows will point to slot(s) on [Main monster zone]. You can summon extra deck monster (xyz or synchro or pendulum or fusion monsters) into those slots normally. Link monster can also summon to those slots to open up more field for your extra deck monster

In short, summon link monster if you want to have more than one extra deck monster on your field.

CCPDarkraiRules · 2017-05-17, 11:06

Yeah, that is only if you are summoning from the extra deck so pendulum summoning from your hand or reviving extra deck monsters from the graveyard go to the main monster zone.

Dengar · 2017-05-17, 11:11

I read up on some of this stuff, and there are some loopholes. You can Pendulum Summon any number of monsters from your hand to the Main Monster Zones still. Only Pendulum Monsters in your Extra Deck need an empty Extra or Link zone to be summoned.

This also means you can Special Summon any of these monsters, including Link monsters, from the Graveyard (or from being Banished) to the Main Monster Zones.

Incidentally, you can use Link Monsters to hijack the other Extra Monster Zone. You can also use a monster in the EMZ as a Material to summon a different monster to the same EMZ.

Also, the video doesn't seem to mention this, but the Pendulum Zones have been changed in that they now share a space with regular Spell/Trap Zones. They only count as Pendulum Zone when you Activate a Pendulum Card, or when an effect places a card there (into a Pendulum Zone, specifically). Otherwise, they are just regular Spell/Trap Zones.

All in all, Extra Deck summoning seems to have been hit with a huge nerf bat, especially Pendulum. And Link might become the OP new thing, although it also might not be because while nifty, they require some hoop jumping (unlike Pendulum, which required very little hoop jumping).

CCPDarkraiRules · 2017-05-17, 11:27

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Incidentally, you can use Link Monsters to hijack the other Extra Monster Zone. You can also use a monster in the EMZ as a Material to summon a different monster to the same EMZ.

This doesn't sound right to me could you explain what you mean in a little more detail please?

Dengar · 2017-05-17, 11:53

You can summon an extra deck monster to any zone that links to a Link Monster. If one of them links to the other Extra Monster Zone (for example, if one is in a Main Monster Zone, with an arrow pointing up, or diagonally up), you can use that one too.

CCPDarkraiRules · 2017-05-17, 12:00

Right you do realise that as soon as you summon an extra deck monster into one of the extra monster zones the other one automatically goes to the opponent.

Marina2 · 2017-05-17, 12:08

You can take other extra monster zone from your opponent if you create the bridge of mutual link from your extra monster zones to other extra monster zones.

CCPDarkraiRules · 2017-05-17, 12:16

Okay I didn't know that about Link summoning thanks for telling me.

Dengar · 2017-05-17, 13:58

That... Was exactly the thing I said. "If one of them links to the other Extra Monster Zone (for example, if one is in a Main Monster Zone, with an arrow pointing up, or diagonally up), you can use that one too."

CCPDarkraiRules · 2017-05-17, 14:08

Sorry I didn't believe you about that it just seemed to me that taking away the opponents extra monster zone was unfair.

Dengar · 2017-05-17, 14:48

It's not if you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to do it. And making it possible to block your opponent's ability to summon from the Extra Deck might encourage people to use decks that use more traditional summoning.

CCPDarkraiRules · 2017-05-17, 15:02

True I am fond of the Lightsworns and with them getting new cards for the archetype maybe someone in the anime will use them.

Stro · 2017-05-17, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Dengar

You can summon an extra deck monster to any zone that links to a Link Monster. If one of them links to the other Extra Monster Zone (for example, if one is in a Main Monster Zone, with an arrow pointing up, or diagonally up), you can use that one too.

What happen if a arrow of a Link Monster that is in a Extra Monster Zone is point up and point an oponent Main Monster Zone? Anyway hijack the other Extra Monster Zone seems very broken since it could be possible that you can have 7 monsters in the field and your oponent can't summon monsters that are in the extra deck.

bakato · 2017-05-17, 22:13

Batman, megaman, and now pokemon? This just keeps getting better and better.

InfinityDragonGod · 2017-05-17, 22:14

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Originally Posted by Stro

What happen if a arrow of a Link Monster that is in a Extra Monster Zone is point up and point an oponent Main Monster Zone? Anyway hijack the other Extra Monster Zone seems very broken since it could be possible that you can have 7 monsters in the field and your oponent can't summon monsters that are in the extra deck.

If the arrow points to your opponent's field, the zone becomes a link zone. Depending on the link monster, you or your opponent will have the advantage.
For example with Decode Talker, while the opponent can get an extra monster zone, not only decode talker will get extra attack points but it can also tribute the opponent's monster to negate an effect.
It shows how important and how careful both players need to position their monsters on the field.

The extra link is broken because of how rewarding it is to mutual link your monsters. And it's not impossible to break an extra link.

Dengar · 2017-05-18, 01:15

So... You can't summon to your opponent's Main Monster Zone, but if they have a monster in the Linked Zone they count toward your monster's Link Effect?

Interesting.

Which makes me wonder, in videogames, new cards automatically go to the center-most available zone. For some reason, today's opponent summoned Crack Dragon to one of the zones on the side. Not a very smart move in this case.

And Storm Access can only be used when LP is less than 1000. So... It's the hero's plot armor given form. XD

As for this "Speed Duel", it seems Pendulum is not allowed.

I wonder if this series will exclusively use Link Summon.

As usual for a summon debut, a Link Monster's special features (lack of a Level or a Defense Position) are demonstrated neatly at the same time.

Fairy Water · 2017-05-18, 04:09

So Speed Duel is basically... It's just Duel Link but in VR space with surfboard? Feel like this anime is what Konami aims to turn Duel Link into in the future lol

The Link Effect with bridge links is quite interesting and so does Link Summon. I don't get why in the anime and the video said minimum of 2 effect monster to summon Decode Talker if they r gonna tribute 3???

2017-05-17, 11:06	Link #65
CCPDarkraiRules Vassal of the King Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: England Age: 28	Yeah, that is only if you are summoning from the extra deck so pendulum summoning from your hand or reviving extra deck monsters from the graveyard go to the main monster zone. __________________ Want to join High School DxD Universe Discord? PM me for an invite

2017-05-17, 12:00	Link #69
CCPDarkraiRules Vassal of the King Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: England Age: 28	Right you do realise that as soon as you summon an extra deck monster into one of the extra monster zones the other one automatically goes to the opponent. __________________ Want to join High School DxD Universe Discord? PM me for an invite

2017-05-17, 12:08	Link #70
Marina2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	You can take other extra monster zone from your opponent if you create the bridge of mutual link from your extra monster zones to other extra monster zones. __________________

2017-05-17, 12:16	Link #71
CCPDarkraiRules Vassal of the King Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: England Age: 28	Okay I didn't know that about Link summoning thanks for telling me. __________________ Want to join High School DxD Universe Discord? PM me for an invite

2017-05-17, 14:08	Link #73
CCPDarkraiRules Vassal of the King Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: England Age: 28	Sorry I didn't believe you about that it just seemed to me that taking away the opponents extra monster zone was unfair. __________________ Want to join High School DxD Universe Discord? PM me for an invite

2017-05-17, 10:21	Link #63
Diluc Darkhero of Monstadt Join Date: May 2015 Location: rich mansion with maids	I begin to grasping the concept of Link summon but the part with link monsters you able to summon xyz, synchro, pendulum, fusion monsters are still incomprehensible for me

2017-05-17, 11:11	Link #66
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	I read up on some of this stuff, and there are some loopholes. You can Pendulum Summon any number of monsters from your hand to the Main Monster Zones still. Only Pendulum Monsters in your Extra Deck need an empty Extra or Link zone to be summoned. This also means you can Special Summon any of these monsters, including Link monsters, from the Graveyard (or from being Banished) to the Main Monster Zones. Incidentally, you can use Link Monsters to hijack the other Extra Monster Zone. You can also use a monster in the EMZ as a Material to summon a different monster to the same EMZ. Also, the video doesn't seem to mention this, but the Pendulum Zones have been changed in that they now share a space with regular Spell/Trap Zones. They only count as Pendulum Zone when you Activate a Pendulum Card, or when an effect places a card there (into a Pendulum Zone, specifically). Otherwise, they are just regular Spell/Trap Zones. All in all, Extra Deck summoning seems to have been hit with a huge nerf bat, especially Pendulum. And Link might become the OP new thing, although it also might not be because while nifty, they require some hoop jumping (unlike Pendulum, which required very little hoop jumping).

2017-05-17, 11:53	Link #68
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	You can summon an extra deck monster to any zone that links to a Link Monster. If one of them links to the other Extra Monster Zone (for example, if one is in a Main Monster Zone, with an arrow pointing up, or diagonally up), you can use that one too.

2017-05-17, 13:58	Link #72
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	That... Was exactly the thing I said. "If one of them links to the other Extra Monster Zone (for example, if one is in a Main Monster Zone, with an arrow pointing up, or diagonally up), you can use that one too."

2017-05-17, 14:48	Link #74
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	It's not if you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to do it. And making it possible to block your opponent's ability to summon from the Extra Deck might encourage people to use decks that use more traditional summoning.

2017-05-17, 15:02	Link #75
CCPDarkraiRules Vassal of the King Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: England Age: 28	True I am fond of the Lightsworns and with them getting new cards for the archetype maybe someone in the anime will use them. __________________ Want to join High School DxD Universe Discord? PM me for an invite

2017-05-17, 22:13	Link #77
bakato Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	Batman, megaman, and now pokemon? This just keeps getting better and better. __________________ Jcafe is up!

2017-05-18, 01:15	Link #79
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	So... You can't summon to your opponent's Main Monster Zone, but if they have a monster in the Linked Zone they count toward your monster's Link Effect? Interesting. Which makes me wonder, in videogames, new cards automatically go to the center-most available zone. For some reason, today's opponent summoned Crack Dragon to one of the zones on the side. Not a very smart move in this case. And Storm Access can only be used when LP is less than 1000. So... It's the hero's plot armor given form. XD As for this "Speed Duel", it seems Pendulum is not allowed. I wonder if this series will exclusively use Link Summon. As usual for a summon debut, a Link Monster's special features (lack of a Level or a Defense Position) are demonstrated neatly at the same time.

2017-05-18, 04:09	Link #80
Fairy Water Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015	So Speed Duel is basically... It's just Duel Link but in VR space with surfboard? Feel like this anime is what Konami aims to turn Duel Link into in the future lol The Link Effect with bridge links is quite interesting and so does Link Summon. I don't get why in the anime and the video said minimum of 2 effect monster to summon Decode Talker if they r gonna tribute 3???