(L) Pandora Hearts

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Nanami

Spoiler for Chapter 38:

And now, what happened to Oz?! This scene was... great. Crazy Oz with dangerous intentions... and on the next page, Oz came to his senses and is in such cute form!~ So he's still himself. But next scene... Oz with shabby, dangerous smirk, playing with a sickle although he didn't ever used something like this. And then sicke's disappearance in the thin air. Whoa.

Spoiler for Ch 38:

I have to say I'm starting to think Oz was originally B-rabbit/Will of the Abyss and Alice switched places with him, which led to his sin of existing.

[Nanami]

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Waiting for translations on my end. I assume you can read raws?

I can't, but there is english translation... And it was completed few days ago already.

Sterling, that would make sense...

Spoiler for Some speculations:

Somewhere at the begining had been told that B-Rabbit liked to rampage from Abyss to the outer world and make contracts only to kill her contractors... although Alice said that she didn't remember doing such a thing and that Oz was her first contractor.
Glen also said that originally such a thing as will of the abyss should not have existed, it shouldn't have a sense of self.... Add this to his sentence that Oz is pitiful being, hestitant existance which has no whereabouts. Plus Jack words that Oz doesn't need such a thing like a seal to begin with.
Well, I though about other thing, connected to clock-seal. With the clock hand progress, the bond between chain and contractor is getting stronger, they can feel each other pain. Alice said that it's strange, but it seems that her B-Rabbit powers are going weaker. Oz-kun in the opposite, he started to show signs of chain himself, like using this scythe. Looks like a change of roles. What will become of Oz at the end? And what of Alice? Alice will become human and Oz chain? Strange.

[FreedomMS]

from what i have read. Alice was born 2 time at the same time. One Alice was born in the human world while the other was born in the abyss as the Will Of Abyss. Jack knew this that why he was protecting the human alice

[shmaster]

What?? 38 is out??
*goes searching

[elite-dreams]

o_______o i didnt see the translations from 27-30 (around there)
so i didnt wana just skip em and spoil it by reading the later chaps >.>

can someone be gladly to pm me them :]?

[kuroishinigami]

Uhh, I can't read chinese raw >.< If only there's japanese raw airing about somewhere.

[Used Can]

Can anyone explain me what the hell is going on with Oz? He's been quite freaky in these last two chapters.

[~Kezia~]

I wanna see the chapter >.<

[Master Assassin]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Can anyone explain me what the hell is going on with Oz? He's been quite freaky in these last two chapters.

It's like he's almost losing his cool.

[Tormenk]

I'll pm the links to the chinese raws to anyone who wants it.

More than freaky, Oz is acting quite suspicious in the latest chapter. Seems like he didn't lose his dark side even after confronting his own problems.

[~Kezia~]

is not the same one u gave me last time is it Tormenk?

[Nanami]

Indeed, he's very fascinating main character and my speculations above about him is one of the many theories Personally I found this evil frame of his the most intruguing (alert, it's from 38 chapter, and yup, it's Oz). Well, he has very reason to be mentally unstable. Still, the cute side of Oz is always charming me while his dark side is simply astonishing (the frame with SD-Oz with sickle!). Practicaly everyone are connected to the case of 100 years ago... Oz must too in that or other way

And argh, make a proper appearance already, Jack! I wanna change my signature and avatar with his face at last, but I'm also sometimes writing in anime section and I don't wanna spoil only-anime-viewers, it would be too obvious Hopefully maybe tomorrow will be this day?

And translation of next chapters is going smoothly, great. The more fans of manga with knowledge of almost-actual chapters, then it's better (to discuss ). I like Ludgewidge arc very much, the whole sibilings meeting after 10 years and such. And I like Eliot very much, he makes a good 'friend' to Oz. And I must say that I hate Lotti's harrasment of Oz (but the target of her actions is... worth of enduring it ).

[Tormenk]

I forgot who I have passed out the links to.. Some chinese sites release slightly faster than the others too. Scanlated chapters are going to take a while to catch up to the monthly releases This might or might not help but I'm putting this up for any curious about the latest chapters. Thanks to Nanami for sharing this with me in the first place.

And I like Eliot very much, he makes a good 'friend' to Oz

Which suggests to me he could very likely be to Oz what Glen was to Jack: a best friend. Considering Eliot managed to crack Oz out of his shell and motivate him to improve himself, and with all the visions of Sabrie plus the blatantly obvious connection to Glen, it's likely Eliot's role will be a very important one in the future.

[Nanami]

My pleasure

Originally Posted by Tormenk

(...) and with all the visions of Sabrie plus the blatantly obvious connection to Glen, it's likely Eliot's role will be a very important one in the future.

Connection to Glen? Where? I must've missed something... He's a Nightray and Glen is from Baskerville's. But I must say that I found an interesting theory. The way Oz is somehow reincarnation of Jack, the same might be for Glen (who's not dead according to Jack) and Eliot, that he's residing in his body. Just imagine meeting of Jack and Glen (Oz and Eliot), it would be very, very, VERY interesting

[Tormenk]

Originally Posted by Nanami

Connection to Glen? Where? I must've missed something... He's a Nightray and Glen is from Baskerville's.

Eliot and Glen both created the exact same tune and both named it Lacie. Eliot's part was shown in the school arc.

As for the difference in bloodlines, it always struck me strange that Duke Nightray would allow an outsider to inherit the Raven, more so when it was revealed Eliot was a legitimate heir to the house. Not much is known about the Nightrays but something's fishy there as well.

But I must say that I found an interesting theory. The way Oz is somehow reincarnation of Jack, the same might be for Glen (who's not dead according to Jack) and Eliot, that he's residing in his body. Just imagine meeting of Jack and Glen (Oz and Eliot), it would be very, very, VERY interesting

Exactly!

The showdown/reunion of Jack and Glen in the future taking place between Eliot and Oz was a high possibility after I made that connection as well. Oh the drama involved by then..

[~Kezia~]

why are people assuming that Glen might be inside Eliot? I don't really think he is there, maybe Jack just failed to kill Glen and he just kept it cool until the right time, like right now. I mean the others from the Baskerville didn't needed a host so...I don't really think Glen is inside Eliot

[Nanami]

Pardon, I totally forgot this, it wasjust too obvious You have right. It could explain a little why he knows that tune and it's name. Although in this context it was strange that he was so worked up to kick Baskervilles back then. But Eliot is Eliot

I also thought about Nightray family. It looks almost like it isn't one "pure" bloodline, but more of compund of other families and only the main line is decided by direct inheritance. Besides, what is a "pure bloodline"? There must be marriages between members of various families, so the bloodlines are mixed for sure. And if I remember correctly, Gil and Vince had been also from royal family, but were forced to live on streets, so maybe they are somehow related to Nightrays. But there's no way of Duke Nightray knowing this... so it's still puzzling.

Kezia, it's just one of many wild speculations Besides, Glen was contracted to Jabberwock, so he can't die of age (like Baskervilles) and if he wasn't killed by Jack, then he must be alive somewhere.

[~Kezia~]

well, Glen was "killed" maybe it was his very on chain that saved him

[Nanami]

Oh yeah, maybe he was dropped into Abyss and eventually will come out... someday?

Edit:
Oh yeah, new translated chapters are out! Two of them! Nice! A lot of Jack~

Eliot, you are awesome <3
"Eliot... you are so gentle"
"Like hell I am"

Was Eliot and Reo unconscious when Jack appeared? Strange.



And about song... "I wrote that song". It's not a coincidence, not in the same chapter. There is definitely some sort of connection between Eliot and Glen~

[~Kezia~]

could be...but while Oz was with Glen, Eliot was busy with a problem, unlike Oz and Jack, Jack uses Oz to be able to move and such. It has a connection but at the same time it doesn't