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idiffer · 2011-01-31, 11:41

ah, then i'm sorry. i misunderstood. i thought u disagreed that the blond-daydream thing was possible at all with no relation to anything else.
i also think that the evidence was not enough, but so much has already been said by others, so i don't know what to add except these fragments, that i have an understanding of. at least i think i do, lol...

DragoZERO · 2011-01-31, 12:17

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

In the novels she is actually smoking a real pipe. They probably won't show that in the anime: I suspect there's some sort of legal restriction on showing children smoking.

I guess there are some changes from original material that are good. Seeing a character, who looks like a little girl despite her age, smoking a pipe is not one bit favorable.

lightbringer · 2011-01-31, 16:02

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Originally Posted by idiffer

i also think that the evidence was not enough

And that's really all I was getting at. Saying "you were daydreaming because you saw a girl out of the corner of your eye" - sure, it's not impossible although anything but certain. I certainly daydream about blonde girls from time to time without any possibly being around. Saying that there was 100% definitely a blonde girl there because he was daydreaming and that she is the culprit - a wild guess moronic enough to make me want to drop the show. There was no evidence she was there (until they actually found her and got her to confess that she was there, somehow) and there was no evidence she was the murderer. Basically, the author is apparently too stupid to actually come up with good mysteries

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO

I guess there are some changes from original material that are good. Seeing a character, who looks like a little girl despite her age, smoking a pipe is not one bit favorable.

In this country here, half the girls who look her age do smoke. Nevermind most of the girls who actually are her age

Given that, I almost wish they'd have cut the pipe altogether, although I don't know any underage girls who smoke pipe lol.

Guardian Enzo · 2011-01-31, 16:43

I think this pipe controversy was settled about 11 pages ago!

Divine witch · 2011-01-31, 17:20

Really don't know if this is my fault or what, but whenever I go watch Gosick I think of it like

"Ohh, fairy one." Then Im dissapointed buy tsun tsun attitude.
Oh and one thing that really bothers me is the pipe. It is not like shes 65 years old Sherlock Holmes. Instead they could make her eat chocolate like Mello :P

Anh_Minh · 2011-01-31, 17:52

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

In the novels she is actually smoking a real pipe. They probably won't show that in the anime: I suspect there's some sort of legal restriction on showing children smoking.

Oh. Well, that's... unfortunate. I mean, I love her pipe. I keep expecting her to blow soap bubbles out of it. Very cute mix of childishness and adult mannerism.

But the idea that she reeks of tobacco? Ew.

Random Wanderer · 2011-01-31, 19:03

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But the idea that she reeks of tobacco? Ew.

And that's where you need to be very careful not to think too much into things, because I rather doubt that detail gets played up very significantly in the novels, if at all.

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I keep expecting her to blow soap bubbles out of it.

I'd love that.

GDB · 2011-01-31, 19:07

Pipe tobacco actually smells different from normal tobacco, so it wouldn't be too bad in terms of scent. In fact, a lot of people like the smell of pipe tobacco.

Still, she doesn't fence from what I can see, so it's not like she's a perfect replica of Holmes, so no need to smoke either.

Anh_Minh · 2011-01-31, 19:10

I know. I still don't like the smell of tobacco, pipe or cigarette or cigar.

Random Wanderer · 2011-01-31, 19:12

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I know. I still don't like the smell of tobacco, pipe or cigarette or cigar.

Well, since the anime version DOESN'T visibly smoke, and her pipe seems unsuited to it anyway, feel free to keep her tobacco free in your mind.

lightbringer · 2011-01-31, 23:27

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

I think this pipe controversy was settled about 11 pages ago!

I can't keep up with how fast these threads are moving.

FlareKnight · 2011-02-01, 01:53

Yeah I can understand the smoking issues, though do think the author just had it that way for the Holmes comparison. No shock that the people making the anime didn't want to show that on TV, the discussion has gotten like this despite there not being any smoke

. Personally just don't think about the realities of it. Kind of glad they took the middle road rather than the overly cute idea some have of bubbles coming out of it

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Guardian Enzo · 2011-02-01, 02:18

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

My thoughts exactly - there's no way she was smoking that thing. I half expected to see bubbles coming out of it.

Been there done that, Baby!

lightbringer · 2011-02-01, 04:07

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Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Yeah I can understand the smoking issues, though do think the author just had it that way for the Holmes comparison.

No question about that, although she really pales in comparison to Holmes of course

. I'm sure that Holmes fans in the audience visibly cringed at this.

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Kind of glad they took the middle road rather than the overly cute idea some have of bubbles coming out of it

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It might sound innocent, but wouldn't that mean she's probably smoking detergent and the like? Sounds like the kind of thing that would warrant a "this is an anime, don't try this at home, kids" message splashed across the screen lol.

spawnofthejudge · 2011-02-01, 08:16

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Originally Posted by lightbringer

It might sound innocent, but wouldn't that mean she's probably smoking detergent and the like? Sounds like the kind of thing that would warrant a "this is an anime, don't try this at home, kids" message splashed across the screen lol.

They make such pipes for kids. They aren't dangerous, nor do they have anything to do with detergent.

felix · 2011-02-01, 08:29

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Originally Posted by lightbringer

It might sound innocent, but wouldn't that mean she's probably smoking detergent and the like?

Soap in "soap bubble [toys]" is just like "jacuzzi" for "whirlpool bathtubs". The name just stuck, but it's not really soap.

GDB · 2011-02-01, 10:48

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Originally Posted by lightbringer

No question about that, although she really pales in comparison to Holmes of course

. I'm sure that Holmes fans in the audience visibly cringed at this.

You mean the fact that we haven't seen her in an opium den yet?

orion · 2011-02-01, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

I think this pipe controversy was settled about 11 pages ago!

Yes, it was.

DummyInc · 2011-02-02, 22:14

is Victorique is the daughter of saber?

Random Wanderer · 2011-02-02, 22:21

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is Victorique is the daughter of saber?

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/ch.../13/107974.jpg

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/ch...rs/7/91135.jpg

Ha!

Wrong time period, although I suppose having the king of England as a mistress would be politically embarrassing enough to explain Vicorique's father's treatment of her.

2011-01-31, 11:41	Link #741
idiffer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Russia, Moscow Age: 35	ah, then i'm sorry. i misunderstood. i thought u disagreed that the blond-daydream thing was possible at all with no relation to anything else. i also think that the evidence was not enough, but so much has already been said by others, so i don't know what to add except these fragments, that i have an understanding of. at least i think i do, lol... __________________ My posts seem retarted? I invoke the freedomof choice upon thee to choose one of the below. a) I’m batshit insane or mentally challenged. Nyan! b) Wasu~p?! brofist c) Your mind is too narrow to embrace my genius, de geso. d) I was accidentally dropped into a barrel of whiskey, so now I am constantly drunk. e) Go home and die! Dattebayo!

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FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Yeah I can understand the smoking issues, though do think the author just had it that way for the Holmes comparison. No shock that the people making the anime didn't want to show that on TV, the discussion has gotten like this despite there not being any smoke . Personally just don't think about the realities of it. Kind of glad they took the middle road rather than the overly cute idea some have of bubbles coming out of it . __________________ Anime-Evo

2011-02-02, 22:14	Link #759
DummyInc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	is Victorique is the daughter of saber? __________________

2011-01-31, 17:20	Link #745
Divine witch Yes,Captain Vocabulary. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cardbox	Really don't know if this is my fault or what, but whenever I go watch Gosick I think of it like "Ohh, fairy one." Then Im dissapointed buy tsun tsun attitude. Oh and one thing that really bothers me is the pipe. It is not like shes 65 years old Sherlock Holmes. Instead they could make her eat chocolate like Mello :P

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GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Pipe tobacco actually smells different from normal tobacco, so it wouldn't be too bad in terms of scent. In fact, a lot of people like the smell of pipe tobacco. Still, she doesn't fence from what I can see, so it's not like she's a perfect replica of Holmes, so no need to smoke either.

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Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	I know. I still don't like the smell of tobacco, pipe or cigarette or cigar.