Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (ver 2 old)

[Baixinho]

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

If Lelouch walks out of the Akasha with his Geass and uses it to beat Schneizel and bring about a peaceful world then this show has failed hard.

Worse : he Geasses Schniezel into making a peaceful world... I think that would be the crapiest ending ever

Originally Posted by Tokkan

Who the hell says she's going to ask anyone to not lie to her? She's just asking someone to not say "I love you".

Uh, nobody o_O
It was just a speculation on my part, sorry if you felt offended by it

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by Baixinho

Worse : he Geasses Schniezel into making a peaceful world... I think that would be the crapiest ending ever

That still wouldn't be the worst. Just really horrendous.

The worst would be a "time reset." Like having Geass never exist in the first place and everything changes. THAT would be the worst.... and most corny.

[lightbringer]

Originally Posted by Baixinho

Worse : he Geasses Schniezel into making a peaceful world... I think that would be the crapiest ending ever

Let's have at least a little bit of faith in Taniguchi and co., shall we? It won't turn out to be some sappy shit like this, I am certain.

[Ruvixur]

Originally Posted by Baixinho

Worse : he Geasses Schniezel into making a peaceful world... I think that would be the crapiest ending ever

Schneizel: Must..resist..Geass... Must..kill...pupies...Must..take...over...the...wo rld...

[Fruit Punch Samurai]

Originally Posted by lightbringer

Let's have at least a little bit of faith in Taniguchi and co., shall we? It won't turn out to be some sappy shit like this, I am certain.

Yeah, it'll have Suzaku and Kallen fighting it out until the very end or have Lelouch meet up with Kallen after four years and they just stand there looking at each other

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by Baixinho

Uh, nobody o_O
It was just a speculation on my part, sorry if you felt offended by it

Wasn't offended by it, actually. Sorry if you felt I was.

[Baixinho]

Originally Posted by Ruvixur

Schneizel: Must..resist..Geass... Must..kill...pupies...Must..take...over...the...wo rld...

that might actually make my day if it happened

@Orga777 : the fail of such endng would be.... over 9000 !!

@lightbringer : yes, I really do think they have at least a little more brain than that

[Stretch5920]

Originally Posted by Baixinho

About Kallen, I am getting the feeling that she is saying that to lelouch because she understands that he doesn't love her, and thus she will not forgive him if he lies to her about his feelings. Being more a Kalulu fan, that sounds a bit depressing, but then again it fits quite well with both lines. Of course, Lelouch's answer to that line would make or destroy Kalulu. I could still see something like this happening

The line could fit that sort of situation, but I think that would be a really crappy way to end it all. Next scene will Lelouch walking up to C.C "Hello C.C, Shirley and Kallen told me I love you so it must be true. Beats me though, I'm too stupid to make my own decision."

[Tokkan]

It's more likely that Kallen doesn't want Lelouch to say "I love you" as:
1. He's dying
2. She's dying
-OR-
3. An answer to her asking why he pushed her away in episode 19

Why? For all three, she'd be hurt pretty hard.

[Fruit Punch Samurai]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

It's more likely that Kallen doesn't want Lelouch to say "I love you" as:
1. He's dying
2. She's dying
-OR-
3. An answer to her asking why he pushed her away in episode 19

Why? For all three, she'd be hurt pretty hard.

And all that development would have been for nothing apparently, at least seal her fate with a deep passionate kiss everyone's been waiting for with tongue

[Se7enSword]

It could also be that Kallen doesn't want Lulu to express it by words or wants him to say it truthfully to her with something like passion? It's still a bit too early to reach to conclusions and there was all that development this season too.

[Baixinho]

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

The line could fit that sort of situation, but I think that would be a really crappy way to end it all. Next scene will Lelouch walking up to C.C "Hello C.C, Shirley and Kallen told me I love you so it must be true. Beats me though, I'm too stupid to make my own decision."

Well actually I am of the opinion that any ending which would not envolve Lelouch living to take on the responsibility to build a better world kind of crappy : he has a big responsibility in the mess the world currently is in, and if he is to have redemption one day, he must take on the responsiblity to get the result his crimes have been commited for. Leaving for an eternity with C.C. is too easy, and by all means hardly a way to repent for anything.

But then, the directors don't necessarily agree with me, and seeing those lines such ending may very well happen, even if I would kind of despise it.


@Tokkan : classic internet misunderstanding I guess

[Stretch5920]

Originally Posted by Baixinho

Well actually I am of the opinion that any ending which would not envolve Lelouch living to take on the responsibility to build a better world kind of crappy : he has a big responsibility in the mess the world currently is in, and if he is to have redemption one day, he must take on the responsiblity to get the result his crimes have been commited for. Leaving for an eternity with C.C. is too easy, and by all means hardly a way to repent for anything.

But then, the directors don't necessarily agree with me, and seeing those lines such ending may very well happen, even if I would kind of despise it.


@Tokkan : classic internet misunderstanding I guess

Oh I definitely agree with you there. I'd rather see Lelouch rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life than go off to fairyland with C.C, Nunnally and all the other people he killed.

He should live and work to make up for all the evil deeds he perfomed. He doesn't have to be miserable, C.C, Kallen or Suzaku could go with him and help him, but he doesn't deserve a rest.

[bran]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

3. An answer to her asking why he pushed her away in episode 19

i don't think this is it
why would she not forgive him for loving her
if he loves her she'd go fangirl mode and turn red like a tomato xP

[whiter]

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

Oh I definitely agree with you there. I'd rather see Lelouch rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life than go off to fairyland with C.C, Nunnally and all the other people he killed.

He should live and work to make up for all the evil deeds he perfomed. He doesn't have to be miserable, C.C, Kallen or Suzaku could go with him and help him, but he doesn't deserve a rest.

Well, there's no way to make up for what he has done. But well, you could call L.L victim of his own greed, war and lies, hence he would be qualified to recive punishments that are pointed out in the law. It just depends how you put up the sentence and what's your ethic alignment.
Lelouch just did what he saw as the best for himself. It's said that people are always looking for their own benefits, were it from friendship or love. It's even a psychological fact and a way to observe humans. Hence Lelouch would only act as a mere human. Not gonna say this as a facy/theory that covers everything, but well.
Note: Just pointing out this fact!

I'd personally rather see C.C having happy ending, were it with L.L or not.
As for L.L, I'd like to see him alive untill the the very end atleast.
Not rotting, nor decoying, just strugling will be enaught!

[Baixinho]

Originally Posted by bran

i don't think this is it
why would she not forgive him for loving her
if he loves her she'd go fangirl mode and turn red like a tomato xP

I assume Tokkan meant that she would not forgive him for having lied to her in Ep 19 if he actually loved her.

[Village Idiot]

I'm going to say Kallen doesn't want Lelouch to say that he loves her, because he's a natural lier and could well be lying to her again. She may well want actual proof without words.

[Verist]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

I'm going to say Kallen doesn't want Lelouch to say that he loves her, because he's a natural lier and could well be lying to her again. She may well want actual proof without words.

I think this comes close...

[Witacume]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

It's more likely that Kallen doesn't want Lelouch to say "I love you" as:
1. He's dying
2. She's dying
-OR-
3. An answer to her asking why he pushed her away in episode 19

Why? For all three, she'd be hurt pretty hard.

this pretty much is my feeling. suffice to say the pairing wars just got won or lost next episode.
IF CC survives her death flag episode then it end as a CC winning. ( as much as i hate admiting it)
while on the other hand if CC dies then its a Kallen win.
good gosh i hate episode 21 already i better have some great answers.

[Stretch5920]

Originally Posted by whiter

Well, there's no way to make up for what he has done. But well, you could call L.L victim of his own greed, war and lies, hence he would be qualified to recive punishments that are pointed out in the law. It just depends how you put up the sentence and what's your ethic alignment.
Lelouch just did what he saw as the best for himself. It's said that people are always looking for their own benefits, were it from friendship or love. It's even a psychological fact and a way to observe humans. Hence Lelouch would only act as a mere human. Not gonna say this as a facy/theory that covers everything, but well.
Note: Just pointing out this fact!

I'd personally rather see C.C having happy ending, were it with L.L or not.
As for L.L, I'd like to see him alive untill the the very end atleast.
Not rotting, nor decoying, just strugling will be enaught!

I think dedicating the rest of his life towards keeping the peace and helping people in some way is the only way he can make up for it. I think death is an escape, he has a responsibility to live and atone.

Like I said, he doesn't have to be miserable, but living a normal care free life or going to the afterlife/world of c to be with nunnally, c.c, euphie,etc is running away from his responsibilty.

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

I'm going to say Kallen doesn't want Lelouch to say that he loves her, because he's a natural lier and could well be lying to her again. She may well want actual proof without words.

I would enjoy that. I'm not fond of love confessions, I think actions speak louder than words. It's so easy to toss around those 3 little words.