2008-03-11, 07:59 | Link #1401 | |||
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A lot of Kyon's dialogue is, imho, timing... and the best way to replicate that is proper paragraphing and spacing. We need to keep that paragraph prose. Baka-Tsuki sticks to the prose because, and I have had this quoted at me, Baka-Tsuki aims to be accurate, not readable. As an entirely separate fan-project, I believe that we're aiming to be readable, not accurate. (Accuracy is, of course, encouraged.) I'll do the relevant editjobs when Kaisos gets on the case. This will get a lot harder once we break out of chapter three... I don't have preprepared stuff I can compare Kaisos's stuff to, I'll be working on semi-originality again. (Joy!) I agree with Dkellis's stuff about Kyonko's reception to Yuuki, Mitsuru, Asakura and Haruki. I also think it's wonderful that a good lot of the writers/editors here appear to be Tropers. THIS WILL HELP. It also means I may be able to indulge my metafiction habit. Now, in regards to the Day of Sagittarius (assuming we're going with the space battle idea, which seems to be getting the best reception...), I'm still a little undecided about Kyonko's gaming expertise. I do want her at the least to be knowlegable enough to be snarky, and I like the idea of her being a quick learner. Regards Dkellis's LEEEERRRROOYYYY JEEEENKINNNNS comment, remember that Kyon originally did manage to restrain Haruhi for most of the original battle, and when he didn't, Yuki had by that point managed to pwn the enemy hackers. I reckon it would be fine for Kyonko to be a quick learner, and play it out like that... assuming, of course, that nobody wants to make any other major changes to the story. Quote:
Also, convert whatever the heck you want. Something with Fang-tan would be nice. Quote:
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2008-03-11, 08:03 | Link #1402 |
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Kyon is a logical thinking type person. Regardless of gender, Kyon will play the role of the counterbalance against the fire that consumes the entire being of Suzumiya. I suppose one way that you can illustrate "The Day of Sagittarius" is to think about Shostakovich's Symphony no.4 "Leningrad", mvt 1 (used in the anime actually) and think of Kyon as an embodiment of the Leningrad spirit that is played out against a stage turned chaotic by being sandwiched against an unstoppable juggernaut and a 'man of steel'. A sense of irony bleeds through the entire event, and storms that started in a teacup escalates as butterfly effect seems to play its cruel hand. A light of hope seems to shine through nevertheless against this quagmire, and provide some solace for the unwilling protagonist...
edit: I realize just now how my wordings back there is rather alienating to people.
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2008-03-11, 08:06 | Link #1403 | |
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I at least am following the natural progress (or something) from Ch2 and onwards - seeing as that'll include rewriting a part that you've done as well, and other parts have been double-made, you can do whatever you wish - I'd recommend doing something steady though, like one chapter for itself or something. And I think that after Kyon-ko starts getting Teh Infoz, it doesn't matter all too much what happens, because she's regaining interest in an old dream, or something. She's curious - that's my call - but I guess Itsuko can be used for money pouch once, I guess. ^^ |
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2008-03-11, 08:09 | Link #1405 | |
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Then again, I never really pulled my sisters hair either, accidentally hard tugs were as bad as it got, and even that hurt enough to get me yelled at. That said, I am against Haruki dragging Kyonko by the tail. I can see him tug her tail to get her atention (which would give a 'what the hell!?' reaction) but actually dragging her... no. Haruki may be impulsive and inconciderate, but he's not a jerk. Even people like him know that dragging people by their hair hurts. |
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2008-03-11, 08:10 | Link #1406 |
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Hmmm. Alright. I think we'll limit it to the "HEY KYON I HAD IDEA OH WAIT NOT SUPPOSED TO TUG HAIR MY BAD" kind of thing, then.
He'll just pick her up and carry her off. Much more lulz. /EDIT Haruki is a jerk, but only by way of being inconsiderate. |
2008-03-11, 08:17 | Link #1407 |
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Hm, meh. He's pretty much jerk in other aspects as well until the SOS-dan gets up and going, from what I'm thinking - besides, I can't get backwards-dragged Kyon-ko out of my head... >_>
Also as said earlier, pick-her-up-and-carry-her-away is one of those one-timers. You can't use it twice, much less twice in the same chapter...it gets repetitive. |
2008-03-11, 08:24 | Link #1408 |
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Well, always the old standby of drag-by-the-hand. I think we should keep the carryKyon for occasions though were it is vitally important to show that Haruki/Haruhi is being an inconsiderate jerk, so as to set up some other plot point later. One of the major things in Live-A-Live was Haruhi dragging Kyon by the hand, not by the tie... so... yeah...
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2008-03-11, 08:52 | Link #1410 |
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Here's something hilarious.
Someone on Komica made this 4-koma of Haruki asking Kyon to help him establish the club, with the last koma purposely left blank, as 'insert here'. Here are the responses: 1: Not my fxxking business. 2: That was the worst flirting technique ever. Moreover, I will be calling for help if you don't let go 3: So you really don't have what it takes to be the chief... Ahahaha~ 4: ZZZ... 5: Hentai! Hentai! Hentai! 6: You dumbass! 7: (Suzumiya wants Kyon to be the mascot) 8: Muscle Flash! 9: Oh! 10: (blushes) I need time to think about it, you dummy... 11: Let's... cool your head a little... (Drive Ignition!) 12: (Kyon) So annoying... I'll think about... (Koizumi) Of course! Both Kyonko and I would love to join. hohoho. //Endless pit of 5th koma awaits Koizumi 13: Oho... Haruki wants me to help him establish a club. That would mean that I will be the heart of the club... which would obviously make me an officer. First, start my conquest by recruiting a few members, and then think of ways to expand the club... and then make the school realize of our existence, and afterwards go join one competition after another. The club should be ambitious enough... to help me get there. After raking in the medals, I will become famous as the visionary, and then I will solidify my relationship with the Student Council, and then I can leave the club... what follows is me climbing to the position of the presidency of the student council, which by my own ability should pose no problem... I shall be the god of the student council! 14: (Suzumiya) It's the Gurren-dan! Let's go beyond our dreams pierce the heavens! This is the emblem.
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2008-03-11, 09:10 | Link #1413 |
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一紀 (Itsuki) is what the Nico people rather use for Koizumi, just as a small note.
//I feel a little more like a demiurge, with ability to translate a little, shop images and all... hohoho... and there was no no.14. I mislabeled the last one.
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2008-03-11, 10:03 | Link #1417 |
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When it comes to Haruki transporting Kyonko to places, my own idea of it would be that he just picks her up and carries her the first time. Second time, he'll actually try the pulling-the-ponytail-method, but receives a pretty bad reaction from it (obviously… anyone would react badly to that) and reverts back to carrying, unless she actually agrees to follow him by walking on her own.
That's how I imagine it. The ponytail-pulling is quite funny, but I do think it shouldn't be used more than once. I've been pulled from a ponytail before too (while the motive behind the action was similar, to get me to follow, it was still not to the same extent as Kyonko, of course), and I can quite surely say I wouldn't have stayed around my friend too long if she had actually turned that into a habit. I'm not one to yell and scream, but I did protest quite loudly back then. I don't think the length of one's hair matters that much; at that moment, all that matters is that it hurts. A lot. Besides, I personally want to see the carrying happen more than once . Maybe even to the extent Kyonko can't even be bothered with protesting anymore when it happens (okay, that might be too much ) Still, that's my opinion. |
2008-03-11, 10:41 | Link #1418 |
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Well, that's essentially what I had done in my script, too...
However; While the ponytail thing is PAINFUL, the carrying thing is bloody damn well humiliating. I mean, how do you think you'd be seen if someone did that to you all the time and you just went with it? |
2008-03-11, 10:52 | Link #1419 | |
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Unless you mean in the sense that Kyonko just gets used to it? But even then, after it's happened a certain amount of times, you'd see it as a fruitless exercise to waste all your energy kicking and screaming ^^' |
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2008-03-11, 10:53 | Link #1420 |
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1st part.
2nd part... Spoiler for Day of Sagittarius: Part 2:
This part came a lot more smoothly than the first. I took some pointers and became a bit more liberal in characterizing Kyon-ko, as well as using a more western feel to it. @Keroko: Characterizing Kyon-ko gives me the same feel as characterizing Tesla. I'm quite at home with her. This is more fun than I though! I'll finish the entire Day of Sagittarius before next week ends, hopefully. Expect daily updates. Anyway, on the subject of the ponytail-pull. I guess it'll look better if that was down only once or twice and the rest comes with Haruki carrying her like a sack of rice on his shoulder. Though I'd prefer he carried her bridal-style, it doesn't fit...
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