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Old 2013-05-17, 10:09   Link #1701
Alastor Mobius Toth
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It's hard to make a complete judgement based on a couple of screens that we see without context.

For all we know, Yui learns the truth 3/4th into game (which is longer than TE storyline we had so far). Given that she's talking to Heinemann, it would at least indicate that she learns that while she's in Yukon. And all of this is based upon (a subjective) assumption that they would, as Goose said, "carry on". The same with Cryska. All we know that there's a gravestone of her. Do we see it at the very end, or is it a part of a scene that occurs simply at some part? Again, Latorova supposedly got chainsaw to the head, but she's up and running.

As for what Gav said, yeah. incestuous relationships don't immediately result in lolgenetics screw-up, because that's not how it works. It simply makes kids more likely to inherit any recessive genes. So, if purple eyes are recessive trait in her family, Yuuya's and Yui's kids would be more likely to have purple eyes etc. etc. Hapsburgs and Pharaohs had problems because they historically practiced forms of incest continually for decades or even centuries.

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So far, I've heard about Cui biting it, but I don't have concrete proof. No news on other Argos guys.
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:17   Link #1702
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It's hard to make a complete judgement based on a couple of screens that we see without context.

For all we know, Yui learns the truth 3/4th into game (which is longer than TE storyline we had so far). Given that she's talking to Heinemann, it would at least indicate that she learns that while she's in Yukon. And all of this is based upon (a subjective) assumption that they would, as Goose said, "carry on". The same with Cryska. All we know that there's a gravestone of her. Do we see it at the very end, or is it a part of a scene that occurs simply at some part? Again, Latorova supposedly got chainsaw to the head, but she's up and running.

As for what Gav said, yeah. incestuous relationships don't immediately result in lolgenetics screw-up, because that's not how it works. It simply makes kids more likely to inherit any recessive genes. So, if purple eyes are recessive trait in her family, Yuuya's and Yui's kids would be more likely to have purple eyes etc. etc. Hapsburgs and Pharaohs had problems because they historically practiced forms of incest continually for decades or even centuries.

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So far, I've heard about Cui biting it, but I don't have concrete proof. No news on other Argos guys.
Yet surprisingly the first thing I heard was Tarisa kicking it.
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:17   Link #1703
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I almost had the same theory as Alastor but

Yes, probably Yui learned the truth from Heinemann when she was still at Yukon, shocking with the truth that Yuuya is her older brother, Yui picks up her documents and goes towards the hangar (or someplace). Walking like a zombie towards her destination, she gets shot and... that's where I hanged off...

Spoiler:
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:20   Link #1704
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It's hard to make a complete judgement based on a couple of screens that we see without context.

For all we know, Yui learns the truth 3/4th into game (which is longer than TE storyline we had so far). Given that she's talking to Heinemann, it would at least indicate that she learns that while she's in Yukon. And all of this is based upon (a subjective) assumption that they would, as Goose said, "carry on". The same with Cryska. All we know that there's a gravestone of her. Do we see it at the very end, or is it a part of a scene that occurs simply at some part? Again, Latorova supposedly got chainsaw to the head, but she's up and running.

As for what Gav said, yeah. incestuous relationships don't immediately result in lolgenetics screw-up, because that's not how it works. It simply makes kids more likely to inherit any recessive genes. So, if purple eyes are recessive trait in her family, Yuuya's and Yui's kids would be more likely to have purple eyes etc. etc. Hapsburgs and Pharaohs had problems because they historically practiced forms of incest continually for decades or even centuries.

@Iss

So far, I've heard about Cui biting it, but I don't have concrete proof. No news on other Argos guys.
Bottom line; are we or are we not talking about the end of the game, i.e. the end of the Total Eclipse story? Because that's exactly what I thought we were doing. >.>

If we're not talking about solid information about the end of the game, that changes a lot.
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:25   Link #1705
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Yet surprisingly the first thing I heard was Tarisa kicking it.
Welll....

You see....

Tarisa is black-skinned. This is a cosmic monster story.
Someone has to die.

...Thank you, Hollywood.

@Shinji

Errr, no?
This thread (as well as the Novel one), has been debating so far what we do know from the VN, and what it implies. I don't think anyone but adept moonrune readers in Japan actually know how it ends at this point.

I wouldn't actually set anything in stone until I get a solid transcript of the actual ending scene and epilogue.
Inb4 Heinemann being actually Yuuko agent and trolling everyone.
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:33   Link #1706
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@Shinji

Errr, no?
This thread (as well as the Novel one), has been debating so far what we do know from the VN, and what it implies. I don't think anyone but adept moonrune readers in Japan actually know how it ends at this point.

I wouldn't actually set anything in stone until I get a solid transcript of the actual ending scene and epilogue.
Inb4 Heinemann being actually Yuuko agent and trolling everyone.
People were putting Cryska's death in spoilers and talking about that being the ending, so that's where the misunderstanding is coming from.
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:35   Link #1707
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Well...it is a spoiler really.

Wherever it's actually the ending, I have absolutely no idea.
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:36   Link #1708
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Inb4 Heinemann being actually Yuuko agent and trolling everyone.
Why does this feel so true?
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:43   Link #1709
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Why does this feel so true?
You know... that we can't doubt anything anymore...

Ever since Yuuya and Yui being siblings thingy and how the aprils joke was trolling us ever since..
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Old 2013-05-17, 10:54   Link #1710
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Might have something to do with him working for a huge, shifty American arms company.

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Old 2013-05-17, 11:00   Link #1711
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Might have something to do with him working for a huge, shifty American arms company.

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Does that include an absence of Hibiki x Yuzuka end?
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Old 2013-05-17, 11:05   Link #1712
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Who knows?

Perhaps the "Miracle" skill of Human race has a really low activation rate, so Yuuko (who might be author avatar of Kouki), is consciously propagating despair to make it go off and lead to a success of Ouka/Human survival.

Or maybe Yuzuka's just that shy.
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Old 2013-05-17, 11:50   Link #1713
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Why does this feel so true?
It was possible since there was the camo of Silvio.
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Old 2013-05-17, 12:07   Link #1714
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It was possible since there was the camo of Silvio.
That's what i felt was missing, i completely forgotten about Silvio, i just remember near the end of Resurrection, Yuuko was the one who informed Silvio of the situation in Yukon base. If i'm not mistaken i think it was hinted that Yuuko knew about the situation on Alaska for quite some time. And then there's Sakon.
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Old 2013-05-17, 12:41   Link #1715
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Fresh from /m/

Spoiler for TE VN:


added some more data
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Old 2013-05-17, 13:17   Link #1716
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Instead of posting the heavily cut down tl;dr from /m/ maybe it would be easier to post the original Chinese thread.

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2332972657
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Old 2013-05-17, 13:48   Link #1717
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Instead of posting the heavily cut down tl;dr from /m/ maybe it would be easier to post the original Chinese thread.

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2332972657
What the point?
Not everyone can read chines in English forum you know .

But thanks for pic.
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Old 2013-05-17, 13:55   Link #1718
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ppl are lazy to google translate is why.

Anyway updated my above post with some missing points.

Really starting to feel ripped off...
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Old 2013-05-17, 14:17   Link #1719
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ppl are lazy to google translate is why.

Anyway updated my above post with some missing points.

Really starting to feel ripped off...
it's not about being lazy but about saving our sanity
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thanks for translating it

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it look look like the game start different than the anime
Spoiler for game:

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Old 2013-05-17, 14:50   Link #1720
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Haha oh wow

Spoiler for the mystery machine:
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