Fate/ Series Image Thread (wallpapers, gif, etc.)

[FFXFan13]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Remember that Archer had to come from someplace before he became a Heroic Spirit..just like Saber and the rest.

Yeah, he came from a world where Emiya Shirou sold his soul to the Counter Force for a miracle.

Originally Posted by Haak

If you go by appearance alone then yeah. The context surrounding it however seems to suggest it's Emiya Shirou before his death.

Shirou would never dress up as Archer, and that is definitely supposed to be Archer at the end of UBW.

[mAc Chaos]

I thought it was Archer too, since it has that black haze with "FSN" stamped on it which sounds like it's supposed to be the events of FSN. I can see it being Shirou too though.

[Haak]

If it's only depicting events od FSN then black coat Shirou wouldn't be there.

Originally Posted by FFXFan13

Shirou would never dress up as Archer, and that is definitely supposed to be Archer at the end of UBW.

Why do you think Shirou would never dress up as Archer? Near in mind we also saw UBW in Realta Nua Last Episode...

[FFXFan13]

It's showing Archer's life, not Shirou's.

Originally Posted by Haak

Why do you think Shirou would never dress up as Archer? Near in mind we also saw UBW in Realta Nua Last Episode...

Because he doesn't like Archer in any of the routes? Except maybe HF.

[mAc Chaos]

Originally Posted by Haak

If it's only depicting events od FSN then black coat Shirou wouldn't be there.



Why do you think Shirou would never dress up as Archer? Near in mind we also saw UBW in Realta Nua Last Episode...

No, I mean just the black part is where FSN is supposed to take place in that sequence of events.

[Haak]

Oh I see what you mean.

Originally Posted by FFXFan13

It's showing Archer's life, not Shirou's.

I'm pretty sure it's Shirou's considering Avalon at the end...

Because he doesn't like Archer in any of the routes? Except maybe HF.

And? A mere dislike doesn't neccesarily suddenly mean he's going to avoid his dress wear or even remember what Archer wore. It didn't stop him from using his swords and if Archer's dress wear was based on practicality (highly likely) then it won't stop him using his dress wear especially when he's unlikely to be that petty when he grows up. If we're going by FSN logic then it makes far less sense for Archer to end up in Avalon than it does Shirou dressing up like Archer.

[FFXFan13]

Originally Posted by Haak

I'm pretty sure it's Shirou's considering Avalon at the end...

Which is why I'm calling bullshit, Archer can not get into Avalon! That is blatantly Archer, if it wasn't meant to be Archer, they would have dran him resembling Shirou and not Captain Suicide!

Originally Posted by Haak

And? A mere dislike doesn't neccesarily suddenly mean he's going to avoid his dress wear or even remember what Archer wore. It didn't stop him from using his swords and if Archer's dress wear was based on practicality (highly likely) then it won't stop him using his dress wear especially when he's unlikely to be that petty when he grows up. If we're going by FSN logic then it makes far less sense for Archer to end up in Avalon than it does Shirou dressing up like Archer.

o, but a dislike generally means he isn't going to try and be him! And, I don't think he ever actually uses Archer's swords in the Fate route.

[Haak]

Originally Posted by FFXFan13

Which is why I'm calling bullshit, Archer can not get into Avalon! That is blatantly Archer, if it wasn't meant to be Archer, they would have dran him resembling Shirou and not Captain Suicide!

Unless they think Shirou resembles Archer at the end of his life. Hence the black coat Shirou with the white hair and red scarf emphasising a transition. Also the actual Archer died with loads on blades impaled on his back.

o, but a dislike generally means he isn't going to try and be him! And, I don't think he ever actually uses Archer's swords in the Fate route.

But he does use his swords in UBW proving that he isn't petty. Like I said, it makes far less sense for Archer to end up in Avalon than it does for him to end up with Archers dress wear.

[FFXFan13]

Originally Posted by Haak

Unless they think Shirou resembles Archer at the end of his life. Hence the black coat Shirou with the white hair and red scarf emphasising a transition. Also the actual Archer died with loads on blades impaled on his back.

You mean the clothing that Archer wore in life, according to Fate/Extra?

Originally Posted by Haak

But he does use his swords in UBW proving that he isn't petty. Like I said, it makes far less sense for Archer to end up in Avalon than it does for him to end up with Archers dress wear.

It makes perfect sense for him to become an Archer clone? If the artist had wanted it to be Shirou, it would be Shirou standing in Avalon, not Archer. It's a crappy timeline of Archer's life!

[Haak]

Originally Posted by FFXFan13

You mean the clothing that Archer wore in life, according to Fate/Extra?

Wait, you mean the Archer that made a contract with the moon? And like I said, Archer died with loads of swords in his back.

It makes perfect sense for him to become an Archer clone? If the artist had wanted it to be Shirou, it would be Shirou standing in Avalon, not Archer. It's a crappy timeline of Archer's life!

Unless they think Shirou resembles Archer at the end of his life. Besides, Shirou definitely does become an Archer clone in ideals up until his last moments, hence his monologue implying so and the shot of his UBW.

[FFXFan13]

Originally Posted by Haak

Exactly. And like I said, Archer died with loads of swords in his back.

Supposedly. Because really, in the Nasuverse, who else aside from Gil, is capable of Swordspam like that?

Originally Posted by Haak

Unless they think Shirou resembles Archer at the end of his life. Besides, Shirou definitely does become an Archer clone in ideals up until his last moments, hence his monologue implying so and the shot of his UBW.

Archer doesn't have ideals. He threw them away, in his attempt to kill himself.

And even if he was still following the ideals Archer threw aside, he doesn't have to end up looking identical to him!

[Haak]

Originally Posted by FFXFan13

Supposedly. Because really, in the Nasuverse, who else aside from Gil, is capable of Swordspam like that?

Not supposedly. Rin sees a dream of his death where he's impaled with loads of swords.

Archer doesn't have ideals. He threw them away, in his attempt to kill himself.

That's after he died though. I did specifically say he was an Archer clone up until his last moments.

And even if he was still following the ideals Archer threw aside, he doesn't have to end up looking identical to him!

He doesn't have to but he probably will if his dress wear is indeed based on practicality and he ends up going through the same life experiences after Fate that Archer did before he died, hence why they have identical UBW in Last Episode.

[FFXFan13]

Originally Posted by Haak

Not supposedly. Rin sees a dream of his death where he's impaled with loads of swords.

How!? Nobody else is capable of swordspam like that! What, did he do it to himself!

...Actually, that's highly possible.

Originally Posted by Haak

That's after he died though. I did specifically say he was an Archer clone up until his last moments.

We don't know a damn thing about what Archer was like when he was alive! And Shirou wouldn't make half the mistakes Archer made, like turn himself into an albino, because he's already got a better understanding of his Magic then Archer did at his age.

Originally Posted by Haak

He doesn't have to but he probably will if his dress wear is indeed based on practicality and he ends up going through the same life experiences after Fate that Archer did vefore he died.

Unlikely. Again, he's already seen where those choices end up, and his understanding of his Magecraft is better then Archer's was at his age. He won't make the same mistakes Archer did.

[Haak]

Originally Posted by FFXFan13

How!? Nobody else is capable of swordspam like that! What, did he do it to himself!

...Actually, that's highly possible.

It doesn't have to be just one person. There were probably loads.

We don't know a damn thing about what Archer was like when he was alive! And Shirou wouldn't make half the mistakes Archer made, like turn himself into an albino, because he's already got a better understanding of his Magic then Archer did at his age.


Unlikely. Again, he's already seen where those choices end up, and his understanding of his Magecraft is better then Archer's was at his age. He won't make the same mistakes Archer did.

We don't know a damn thing about Archer when he was alive but we do know Shirou would not make the same mistakes Archer did which we know nothing about?

Actually we know plenty about Archer but there's nothing to suggest Shirou has a better grasp of magecraft after Fate than Archer did.


Given how both their UBWs are identical, I think its pretty safe to say they had the same life experiences.

Shirou has not seen where Archers choices ended up except maybe Archer's choice to turn into a counter guardian which Shirou avoids anyway.

[HinataShou]

Taylor Swift

[FFXFan13]

Originally Posted by Haak

Given how both their UBWs are identical, I think its pretty safe to say they had the same life experiences.

Unless their chants are identical, then no. They aren't. They fulfil the same function, or re-creating the swords Shirou see's.

And we've gone completely off point anyway, where's the author page? We can look there, and prove that it is Archer.

Originally Posted by HinataShou

Taylor Swift

...Did you just photoshop Saber's hair onto Taylor Swift?

[Haak]

Originally Posted by FFXFan13

Unless their chants are identical, then no. They aren't. They fulfil the same function, or re-creating the swords Shirou see's.

If you notice, the gears are still there. That was the one thing that seperated Archers reality marble to Shirou's marble in the UBW route (Besides the chant).

[FFXFan13]

Originally Posted by Haak

If you notice, the gears are still there. That was the one thing that seperated Archers reality marble to Shirou's marble in the UBW route (Besides the chant).

And the smog.

Also: Artist's Page

It's tagged Archer, and has "Story of an Anti-Hero" as one of the tags. It's a Time-Line of Archer's life.

[Haak]

Yes but it's called Fate. It's a follow on of the Fate route.

[FFXFan13]

Originally Posted by Haak

Yes but it's called Fate. It's a follow on of the Fate route.

And you think it's Archer's fate to make it into Avalon? No. Hell No.