2021-01-11, 15:10 | Link #33861 | |
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Her crimes are well enough documented if you go back to Daji's legend, who has been confirmed to be the very same person as Tamamo due to Vitch's reaction. Probably also if you go into indian myth, whatever her name there was. Also note that a recent Losbelt might have actually created another contradiction in Tamamo's account, as she claimed to have erased her memories and didn't know she was a nine tails at all. From what we know from Cosmic Eagle, she was very aware of being a Fox when you meet her.
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2021-01-11, 15:26 | Link #33862 |
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"Well documented" is not very convincing when Type Moon history/myths and actual history/myths are almost always completely different. And given Heian Kyo is lostbelt, Tamamo there is either servant or person with significantly different personal experience. Cas-ko could be super malevolent at some point, but I don't feel there is enough to substance in that speculation. At least not for time being.
Also killing stone being result of radiation from Tamamo Nine creation... I like it. Well it would also mean each of them would be radioctive, given they started as, you know, tails. I like that idea too.
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2021-01-11, 16:39 | Link #33863 | ||
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She appears to like Tamamo a lot more than she lets on. Actually going to the point that DaVinci leaving a note that's outright telling Amaterasu to cut that out when making a remark on a certain, OP skill. As for the Losbelt, not necessarily, Losbelts have, until a certain point, the same history and only diverge there. In SIN, for example, the point of divergence is that Emperor Qin found a way to immortality and never died, leading to eventual stagnation. That being said, getting close to an emperor and then plunge the entire empire into a chaos, or even cause it's collapse, also fits her modus operandi... So no real problem there... We also know that Tamamo was indeed Daji. The alignment shown in her profile is also according to herself, and not a Servant stat as Ritsuka would see it. Heck who knows if Ritsuka himself can even see it, since he isn't a proper mage and all the contracts are moreover funneled through Caldea's core. I never said she doesn't regret things after having cut her tails either btw. I also just checked a translated version of Amaterasu's scene, and she outright states Tamamo's crimes there. Note that she also still thinks of tamamo as evil. And frankly, Amaterasu doesn't seem much nicer than Tamamo pre-tail cut. That being said, they never outright state it's Amaterasu, so it could have been NineTails (i.e. past) Tamamo being upset with her future self too for becoming a Servant. Which would make it only worse, because then Nine-Tails-Tamamo herself would admit to being the culprit. Quote:
(New way to get Fate Tamamo to go on a dient found: "If you eat one more piece of cake, you'll start emitting Hawking Radiation!"
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2021-01-11, 16:48 | Link #33864 |
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Well, Amaterasu testimony sounds more legit then offhand jokes and speculations. I have feeling this could convince me. So what exactly did she say and when?
Oh you meant star becoming black hole! Given our son can never happen one I didn't make connection and thought you mean some more obscure science I never heard of
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2021-01-11, 16:55 | Link #33865 |
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It wouldn't be the first time Tamamo hides her true motivation behind her actions under a petty excuse because of her desire to keep it all for herself. And regardless of what she did in the past, what matters now is the present. And at present time Tamamo only aims to live a normal life.
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2021-01-11, 17:13 | Link #33866 | ||
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There isn't an official translation , and the version I just read leaves room for it being Tamamo herself, rather than Amaterasu. She is also identified as "?????:" over the entire course of the conversation, so yeah could also be Nine-Tails-Tamamo being pissed with her future self. The scene is pretty damning nevertheless. Fun enough, that story ends with a second pair of Tamamo nine being brought into existence. Quote:
That being said, if you had a magic way to compress Earth down to the size of a golf ball it would be a black hole too.
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2021-01-11, 17:57 | Link #33867 |
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I am officially convinced. That scene sound legit. Original Tamamo was certainly "evil" and ruined few countries after getting betrayed by humans. That said one thing is even more obvious after watching that scene, cutting tails has nothing to do with weight.
ED|IT: Big Foxie sounded lot like the best snek, so she has lot of adorable potential on her own if you ask me .
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2021-01-12, 00:35 | Link #33869 | |
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2021-01-12, 01:02 | Link #33870 |
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I never said she isn't. I am just saying Lostbel Tamamo being aware of being fox does not not prove our timeline were too and just lied about it. She could remember it as result of divergence or given how important and powerful she can be, her becoming aware her nature sooner might be very reason divergence happened in first place.
Or again she might be servant in which case obviously she would remember it.
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Since Tamamo is the topic anyway... Which one to skill first after Fox Wedding: Malediction,Boundless Sunshine (Really Fate Amaterasu, cut it out ) or Morph?
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2021-01-12, 11:25 | Link #33874 | |
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E: Morning roll on Jalter failed... Undecided whether I should do a second attempt today or wait till next time she is on banner up... Which would be in a few months during another detective story, apparently.
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2021-01-13, 18:04 | Link #33877 |
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Finally got lvl 10 on summer outfit from recent summer event so now I got all suits at lvl 10 and can use whatever I want without worrying about wasted XP. Now all that's left is to fail the final Muramasa rateup day.
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