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***relentlessflame*** · 2013-07-21, 11:24

Very quick translation: [Edit: now slightly improved]
On a day shortly before Christmas, Kyousuke left his house as planned. Walking down the evening streets where snow danced, Kyousuke resolved that he was going to confess his feeling for a certain person, and started to run. As Kyousuke finally arrived at the meeting place, the person waiting for him there was...

Kyousuke's story, that begin with Kirino's life consultations, is taking giant strides towards its climax. And the ending Kyousuke chose is...

Spoiler for Novels:

Kakurin · 2013-07-21, 11:29

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Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Very quick translation:
One day shortly before Christmas, Kyousuke decided to get out of the house. Walking down the evening streets where snow danced, Kyousuke decided that he was going to confess his feeling for a certain person, and started to run. As Kyousuke finally arrived at the meeting place, the person waiting for him there was...

Kyousuke's story, that begin with Kirino's life consultations, is taking giant strides towards its climax. And the ending Kyousuke chose is...

Spoiler for Novels:

Yep, I agree. They intend to keep up the suspense, even for guys who know the novel ending. But they sure aren't going to stray from it.

Soverence · 2013-07-21, 14:09

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Originally Posted by SigUp

Yep, I agree. They intend to keep up the suspense, even for guys who know the novel ending. But they sure aren't going to stray from it.

Well I never really thought that they would in the first place but I am glad to hear that it is basically confirmed

. Also its a smart move on their part to keep the suspense up, it makes for a better story and there would be no point if they ruined the suspense now right at the ending.

Sakuratsuki · 2013-07-21, 14:37

We have a confirmation now. I am glad about that.

Flere821 · 2013-07-21, 17:50

When are these episodes going to be aired again?

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-07-21, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Flere821

When are these episodes going to be aired again?

World Premiere: 9 August at Otakon.
Global Web Stream: 18 August at 13:00 JST.

Flere821 · 2013-07-21, 18:59

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Originally Posted by relentlessflame

World Premiere: 9 August at Otakon.
Global Web Stream: 18 August at 13:00 JST.

Ok, thanks

risingstar3110 · 2013-07-21, 23:40

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Originally Posted by SigUp

Then just Oreimo like it's also called in short?

Sorry for disappearing for a while. But then that won't be a catchphrase on Kirino... It will be simply just a tittle of the series

Anyway, still take suggestions on this. I guess anything with "you, siscon" in the same line is hinted at Kirino

Kakurin · 2013-07-22, 01:53

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Originally Posted by risingstar3110

Sorry for disappearing for a while. But then that won't be a catchphrase on Kirino... It will be simply just a tittle of the series

Anyway, still take suggestions on this. I guess anything with "you, siscon" in the same line is hinted at Kirino

Ah, I thought you were referring to the title. My bad.

MeisterBabylon · 2013-07-23, 19:02

I read up with the novels. Well, I must say, I've been taken for quite a ride! @_@

OreImo taught me a lot about writing harems.

Flying Dagger · 2013-07-23, 21:25

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51398941.html

[mod edit: remove quote of all Japanese text with no translation]

levelminded · 2013-07-23, 21:37

where can i find the 10 year reunion volume story???????

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-07-23, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Flying Dagger

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51398941.html

Is there something in particular you wanted to point out about this month+-old interview? It was already discussed rather extensively at the time.

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Originally Posted by levelminded

where can i find the 10 year reunion volume story???????

At this time it has not been translated into English. It shipped with the first volume of the Anime Limited Edition Blu-Rays/DVDs, and the basic outline of the content was posted earlier. The short story does not contain any information that adds clarity to the end of the novels, since that would be a spoiler for anime-only viewers.

Flying Dagger · 2013-07-24, 00:45

Did not realize it was discussed to death already. I only came across that today (I haven't really been keeping up) and thought it was a pretty good read into how the story turned out to be how it is.

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-07-24, 01:47

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Originally Posted by Flying Dagger

Did not realize it was discussed to death already. I only came across that today (I haven't really been keeping up) and thought it was a pretty good read into how the story turned out to be how it is.

Ah, okay, well here's a link back, and you can see the resulting conversation in context. (Understandable that it's hard to find things in this giant thread.) It is a pretty interesting interview, and provides a bit of extra support in terms of how to interpret the plot and why things were written in the way they were.

Wilshere · 2013-07-29, 17:47

Can this series be considered as a Harem? For me it is no harem as one chapter/episode can't justify that claim.

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-07-29, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Wilshere

Can this series be considered as a Harem? For me it is no harem as one chapter/episode can't justify that claim.

The term has very broad usage. Some people call a show a "harem" any time it has three or more characters presented as "possible love interests" to the protagonist. And in that broad sense, you could arguably consider it a "harem show" pretty early in the work... if you recognize that all the girls are being presented as love interests (which started becoming clearer in Volume 5, if the reader didn't recognize it earlier). Volume 10 is where they really start making it obvious that the girls are "fighting over him", but this is basically the collision of a lot of elements that had previously been building on different fronts. That volume/chapter only happened because of all the elements introduced beforehand, and to serve as a catalyst to put an end to the "race". (The three final volumes are all part of the "closing arc".)

In other words, I'd say it's as much of a "harem" as pretty much any shounen romantic comedy is, since a key point of the story is which of the multiple available/willing heroines the protagonist will fall in love with and "choose" in the end. But in the stricter sense of the word, the story isn't really *about* Kyousuke and his "harem", but actually about Kyousuke and Kirino's relationship, with the other elements layered around it. Pretty much all the other characters and elements are there to draw out an aspect of Kirino and Kyousuke.

Wilshere · 2013-07-29, 19:24

^The only character I feel was his ''love interest'' was Kuroneko since she openly admits her feelings, many times throughout the series and novel. As for Ayase, she lied to herself even though she took interest for him since the beginning and just started to show some interest in like her story in Volume 9 and clearly Volume 10. Manami was never the subject of love interest as Kyousuke says that he treats her as a ''grandma'' and nothing more. Kanako, with her straight forward confessions, was not in the ''race'' whatsoever. Well, for Kirino, I think he actively begins falling for her in Volume 8+ and she is the only person realistically he ends with(which he did) since the show rotates around their relationship in a sense and not Kyousuke getting together with any other girl. Its just like you said, they are there to help develop them.

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-07-29, 19:41

I don't think it's necessarily a question of whether or not they ever "had a chance" from a story-telling perspective. Many shounen romantic comedies have a "harem" of heroines, most of whom never really "have a chance" but still show interest in the protagonist. (In fact, in most harem anime, there are usually a number of "harem members" who really stand no logical chance at all, but are there to arguably "fill out" the harem with different personalities/tropes.) In a different story, either Kuroneko, Ayase, or Manami could easily have been Kyousuke's main love interest, as the foundational elements were there -- as were explored in the PSP games. Saori and Kanako would need more development (particularly if you're thinking of the anime that cut a lot), but it's not that far-fetched... again, in a different story.

Anyway, I think the key is that you're trying to define if it "is" or "isn't", but it's really a matter of degrees. It has some harem elements for sure, but I personally wouldn't call it a "Harem LN/Anime" because it's not the most descriptive term for most of the content. (When people think "harem anime", they're usually thinking more like To Love-Ru, and this really isn't like that.)

Wilshere · 2013-07-30, 05:18

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-e....html#comments

This got to be pure hype, right?

2013-07-21, 11:24	Link #4141
*relentlessflame* 　 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 41	Very quick translation: [Edit: now slightly improved] On a day shortly before Christmas, Kyousuke left his house as planned. Walking down the evening streets where snow danced, Kyousuke resolved that he was going to confess his feeling for a certain person, and started to run. As Kyousuke finally arrived at the meeting place, the person waiting for him there was... Kyousuke's story, that begin with Kirino's life consultations, is taking giant strides towards its climax. And the ending Kyousuke chose is... Spoiler for Novels: The person waiting for him there is Kuroneko. The person he's confessing feelings for is Kirino. But of course it's written to be misleading. __________________ [...] Last edited by relentlessflame; 2013-07-21 at 16:27. Reason: small tweaks

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Flere821 Lurker Join Date: Aug 2010	When are these episodes going to be aired again? __________________ SAO Alicization WEB version Summary links

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MeisterBabylon ~ Your Smile ~ Author Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 346Pro Age: 38	I read up with the novels. Well, I must say, I've been taken for quite a ride! @_@ OreImo taught me a lot about writing harems. __________________ 白露型駆逐艦の４番艦、夕立です。第三次ソロモン海戦では、けっこう頑張ったっぽい★？

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Flying Dagger 大巧不工 Join Date: Dec 2003	http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51398941.html [mod edit: remove quote of all Japanese text with no translation] Last edited by relentlessflame; 2013-07-23 at 22:49.

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Wilshere Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Germany Age: 30	Can this series be considered as a Harem? For me it is no harem as one chapter/episode can't justify that claim. __________________

2013-07-21, 14:37	Link #4144
Sakuratsuki Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	We have a confirmation now. I am glad about that.

2013-07-23, 21:37	Link #4152
levelminded Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013	where can i find the 10 year reunion volume story???????

2013-07-24, 00:45	Link #4154
Flying Dagger 大巧不工 Join Date: Dec 2003	Did not realize it was discussed to death already. I only came across that today (I haven't really been keeping up) and thought it was a pretty good read into how the story turned out to be how it is.

2013-07-29, 19:24	Link #4158
Wilshere Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Germany Age: 30	^The only character I feel was his ''love interest'' was Kuroneko since she openly admits her feelings, many times throughout the series and novel. As for Ayase, she lied to herself even though she took interest for him since the beginning and just started to show some interest in like her story in Volume 9 and clearly Volume 10. Manami was never the subject of love interest as Kyousuke says that he treats her as a ''grandma'' and nothing more. Kanako, with her straight forward confessions, was not in the ''race'' whatsoever. Well, for Kirino, I think he actively begins falling for her in Volume 8+ and she is the only person realistically he ends with(which he did) since the show rotates around their relationship in a sense and not Kyousuke getting together with any other girl. Its just like you said, they are there to help develop them. __________________

2013-07-29, 19:41	Link #4159
*relentlessflame* 　 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 41	I don't think it's necessarily a question of whether or not they ever "had a chance" from a story-telling perspective. Many shounen romantic comedies have a "harem" of heroines, most of whom never really "have a chance" but still show interest in the protagonist. (In fact, in most harem anime, there are usually a number of "harem members" who really stand no logical chance at all, but are there to arguably "fill out" the harem with different personalities/tropes.) In a different story, either Kuroneko, Ayase, or Manami could easily have been Kyousuke's main love interest, as the foundational elements were there -- as were explored in the PSP games. Saori and Kanako would need more development (particularly if you're thinking of the anime that cut a lot), but it's not that far-fetched... again, in a different story. Anyway, I think the key is that you're trying to define if it "is" or "isn't", but it's really a matter of degrees. It has some harem elements for sure, but I personally wouldn't call it a "Harem LN/Anime" because it's not the most descriptive term for most of the content. (When people think "harem anime", they're usually thinking more like To Love-Ru, and this really isn't like that.) __________________ [...]

2013-07-30, 05:18	Link #4160
Wilshere Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Germany Age: 30	http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-e....html#comments This got to be pure hype, right? __________________