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Old 2011-11-19, 09:16   Link #5761
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Old 2011-11-19, 09:34   Link #5762
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Could someone who has the next Raw please send it to me?
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Old 2011-11-19, 10:00   Link #5763
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Any other side character you'd want to focus on? I actually liked those kendo guys in the very beginning, maybe bring back some of those old side characters.

Something about the other committees like the enforcers.

I kind of wish the manga would actually slow down sometimes, and have some more relaxing episodes (i mean, they discussed going to a theme park during the Flask Plan Arc). I don't mean just omakes, since those are just a few pages.
I agree, just even two or three chapters focused on suggestions before and after arcs would be good, at the same time I have a feeling the suggestions Nisio could written in chapters but didn't will probably be featured in the anime as fillers.

I'd also like them to focus on Unzen, his sister, the enforcers (same as you), as well as the karate club chairman Tsue (who's supposed to be as strong as Medaka; so hopefully we could see some sparring between them or something) and more interaction between Yojirou and that witch girl who had the pumpkin on her head.
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Old 2011-11-19, 10:53   Link #5764
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Old 2011-11-19, 12:28   Link #5765
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I guessing this is a joke lol, would be awesome if it were true. Wonder if someon could translate wha Aijimu says afterwards.
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Old 2011-11-19, 13:11   Link #5766
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I don't really get it or understand how Kumagawa get the all-fiction back in chapter 122....can someone explain to me in kindergarten term?
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Old 2011-11-19, 13:18   Link #5767
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I don't really get it or understand how Kumagawa get the all-fiction back in chapter 122....can someone explain to me in kindergarten term?
can she her since the chapter 122 is finally out :
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/medaka...14/c122/1.html
but how kumagawa got his all fiction is here:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/medaka...14/c122/6.html
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Old 2011-11-19, 13:31   Link #5768
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can she her since the chapter 122 is finally out :
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/medaka...14/c122/1.html
but how kumagawa got his all fiction is here:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/medaka...14/c122/6.html
I read that yet I don't understand. This is why I am asking here.
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Old 2011-11-19, 13:43   Link #5769
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Why should zen apologize to kuma for the rage fit he had?
If anything kuma should apologize for taking away his eyes and his normality.

But we all know that won't happen
Kumagawa could probably apologize too, but what Zenkichi did out of desperation is not something I see him wanting to have done. We know Kumagawa didn't do that, and saying that he did is pretty insulting. It's worse to insult someone who's used to it, and not apologize. It's like saying those other insults are fine, when they kind of aren't.

Besides, two wrongs don't make a right. Those two should make right their relationship, and remedy any bad blood.

World peace yea!!
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Old 2011-11-19, 13:45   Link #5770
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I read that yet I don't understand. This is why I am asking here.
To put it as simply as possible.

Kumagawa All-fiction against Zen = Strawberry Cake

Hunder gullet = strawberry

Current All- fiction = normal Cake.

Think of the example of the pie as Kumagawa no longer had the ingredients to recreate the old Cake(all-fiction) he has created one similar with the ingredients he had.
Meaning the part that made Hunder gullet in all fiction....or something like that
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Old 2011-11-19, 13:48   Link #5771
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I read that yet I don't understand. This is why I am asking here.
The way I understand it, imagine bookmaker as an undecorated Christmas tree. All fiction is a decorated Christmas tree. The decorations came from kumagawas heart. Kuma traded the decorated tree for the undecorated tree, but had the decorations in his heart to make it.
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Old 2011-11-19, 13:58   Link #5772
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Still doesn't make much sense and was very much an ass pull. If you take away the engine of the car it will no longer serve the purpose of a car regardless how you manipulate the other parts to replicate an engine and taking away a hundred gaunlets would probably be more important than that, the mere fact he had all the parts to conviently reproduce All fiction is extremely unlikely.
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Old 2011-11-19, 14:08   Link #5773
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Still doesn't make much sense and was very much an ass pull. If you take away the engine of the car it will no longer serve the purpose of a car regardless how you manipulate the other parts to replicate an engine and taking away a hundred gaunlets would probably be more important than that, the mere fact he had all the parts to conviently reproduce All fiction is extremely unlikely.
Well, Kumagawa made all fiction in the first place. And the car is in the middle of a scrap heap, with the pieces there. She took the car away, and I think she said she only took hundred gauntlets, so, she took the car, pulled out it's engine and threw it back into the scrap heap. And then gave him hundred gauntlets, the engine back, to run on it's own. Unless bookmaker does not equal hundred gauntlets.
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Old 2011-11-19, 14:10   Link #5774
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Well, Kumagawa made all fiction in the first place. And the car is in the middle of a scrap heap, with the pieces there. She took the car away, and I think she said she only took hundred gauntlets, so, she took the car, pulled out it's engine and threw it back into the scrap heap. And then gave him hundred gauntlets, the engine back, to run on it's own. Unless bookmaker does not equal hundred gauntlets.
Yeah but he made it by altering hundred gauntles, so that would be like pimping out a car, then someone removing said car and leaving the improvements and then you reproducing the said car from those improvements. If he simply had all the parts to reproduce said car to begin with he could have made whatever the hell he wanted before acquiring a hundred gauntlets, heck he wouldn't have even needed hundred gauntlets to make all fiction to begin with.

I'm sorry but Aijimu's expanation is not how stuff works.

Anyone who could reverse engineer a car and re-engineer said car from scrap could would natively be able to produce a heck of a lot of crap from said scrap to begin with.
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Old 2011-11-19, 14:48   Link #5775
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I guessing this is a joke lol, would be awesome if it were true. Wonder if someon could translate wha Aijimu says afterwards.
Yeah it was a joke XD

And you'll have your chapter in just a few more hours...the guys @ 4chan have already translated/cleaned over 50% of the ch

Lucky us a God-tier cleaner just happened to be there.

Lmao @ Kuma's Shinsengumi formation

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Old 2011-11-19, 15:32   Link #5776
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Yeah but he made it by altering hundred gauntles, so that would be like pimping out a car, then someone removing said car and leaving the improvements and then you reproducing the said car from those improvements. If he simply had all the parts to reproduce said car to begin with he could have made whatever the hell he wanted before acquiring a hundred gauntlets, heck he wouldn't have even needed hundred gauntlets to make all fiction to begin with.

I'm sorry but Aijimu's expanation is not how stuff works.

Anyone who could reverse engineer a car and re-engineer said car from scrap could would natively be able to produce a heck of a lot of crap from said scrap to begin with.
Yeah, the critical component, the car, or in this case hundred gauntlets/bookmaker wasn't made by Kumagawa. If he could do that, he would be hanten, but it looks like he can modify any cars he gets. He happened to have bookmaker, the car, from when he traded all fiction for it, so he pimped it out. He doesn't have the car in the scrap heap, but he does have the pimpage.

The two components, the skill and the modifications. He traded a skill with modifications, all fiction, for a skill without modifications, so he's not really losing the car, he's just losing the pimpage that makes it all fiction. If he pimps his skill with the modifications which he does have access to, it's back to all fiction.

I don't think he will be able to use bookmaker anymore. That car was pimped to all fiction. It could explain why he didn't have bookmaker inthe first place.

A good example, pokemon. All fiction is the evolved pokemon of bookmaker, and Kumagawa had the item needed to transform it. And then he traded the evolved pokemon for the unevolved pokemon, and then evolved it again. He can't make pokemon, but he can evolve them. And Hanten is a pokeball.
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Old 2011-11-19, 15:50   Link #5777
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Remember that Emukae kept her rotting power even after Kumagawa erased it. There's precedent for people keeping powers that they've lost.
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Old 2011-11-19, 17:16   Link #5778
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Yeah, the critical component, the car, or in this case hundred gauntlets/bookmaker wasn't made by Kumagawa. If he could do that, he would be hanten, but it looks like he can modify any cars he gets. He happened to have bookmaker, the car, from when he traded all fiction for it, so he pimped it out. He doesn't have the car in the scrap heap, but he does have the pimpage.

The two components, the skill and the modifications. He traded a skill with modifications, all fiction, for a skill without modifications, so he's not really losing the car, he's just losing the pimpage that makes it all fiction. If he pimps his skill with the modifications which he does have access to, it's back to all fiction.

I don't think he will be able to use bookmaker anymore. That car was pimped to all fiction. It could explain why he didn't have bookmaker inthe first place.

A good example, pokemon. All fiction is the evolved pokemon of bookmaker, and Kumagawa had the item needed to transform it. And then he traded the evolved pokemon for the unevolved pokemon, and then evolved it again. He can't make pokemon, but he can evolve them. And Hanten is a pokeball.
Problem with that analogy is that your assumming their both cars when they don't even work remotely similar, book maker would be like boat in comparsion to all fictions car, you can't just turn a boat into a car, sure their both methods of transportation but the amount of crap you need to turn a boat into a car you could just make a car anyway. It makes NO sense.

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Remember that Emukae kept her rotting power even after Kumagawa erased it. There's precedent for people keeping powers that they've lost.
This isn't about keeping powers, Emukae's power is linked to her personality that she born with, so it would extremely difficult to remove. Kumagawa's was acquired through Aijimu an ability given to him with said ability being removed. It's not his ability and it's not naturally a part of his personality. Heck he didn't even keep a hundred gauntlets which he should have kept if keeping powers that he's lost was what actually happened.

What happened was that he illogically made an ability from absolute crap he should be able to as if he could that he could make any ablity he damn well wanted.
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Old 2011-11-19, 17:22   Link #5779
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Problem with that analogy is that your assumming their both cars when they don't even work remotely similar, book maker would be like boat in comparsion to all fictions car, you can't just turn a boat into a car, sure their both methods of transportation but the amount of crap you need to turn a boat into a car you could just make a car anyway. It makes NO sense.
lol, do you even know what Hundred Gauntlets originally did in the first place? Ajimu didn't give Kumagawa All Fiction, Kumagawa made it, and if he could do it with one random other skill he had then it is perfectly plausible that he could repeat the process.
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Old 2011-11-19, 17:24   Link #5780
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lol, do you even know what Hundred Gauntlets originally did in the first place?
If it was so similar to bookmaker why didn't he make all fiction with it originally? Use some sense. i mean this has so many aspects that put it in a view of an asspull I find it hard to think otherwise. There's no way in hell smething so convient occurred without contradicting what happened before.
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