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Old 2018-05-15, 17:33   Link #1621
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Ditto, there are at least four princesses I can think of.
  • The bitch Christina.
  • The weak Flora.
  • Charlotte
  • and the trust Takatrash no-matter-what Lilyana.

If there is more, I don't know, but there are several other ladies with prominent influence even if not technically princesses.
I will never understand the hated they have for Christina xD
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Old 2018-05-15, 17:44   Link #1622
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Well, she's ungrateful bitch... Lol
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Old 2018-05-15, 20:17   Link #1623
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^I agree with her being ungrateful. In the WN, it looked more like she was considering her position and avoiding Rio to not cause so much trouble to him, I could even see her as a tsundere.

But the LN makes her out like a damn bitch that doesn't even want to accept that a commoner saved her sister. While Roana became somewhat better. Editor probably wants to insert Drill-rolls on the harem . I just hope he doesn't forget Sayo-chan

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-Christina become a fugitive
-Flora kidnapped by Rio nemesis
-no one interested with flat-chested Charlotte
-Lilyana is in the middle of learning jap
-Silvi become Reis accomplice
Rio nemesis? P***y? Mother's day? Trucks? Misunderstandings?
Who is Charlotte? The Red-haired twin-tailed loli on Volume 9?
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Old 2018-05-15, 21:11   Link #1624
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^I agree with her being ungrateful. In the WN, it looked more like she was considering her position and avoiding Rio to not cause so much trouble to him, I could even see her as a tsundere.

But the LN makes her out like a damn bitch that doesn't even want to accept that a commoner saved her sister.
In the WN she seem pretty crappy as well. From what I read she seem pretty concern about power and look down on the commoners. The only times she seem decent is when talking with other high-ranking noble, but generally speaking she is the manipulating type. Although she is not completely rotten, it can be stated she is of the same cloth as other corrupt nobles. Her engagement to you know who seems perfect as she is only interested in power. Although the heroes are not entire blameless, the action of heroes are the fault of the princesses who look after them. That is why if they want to look at disgust with the heroes' behaviour they must also acknowledge they are equally disgusting since they encourage such actions.

By the way, I noticed that summoned Japanese who arrived in that world can be divided into three types: the fool, the child, and the sharp.

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Old 2018-05-16, 02:01   Link #1625
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^I agree with her being ungrateful. In the WN, it looked more like she was considering her position and avoiding Rio to not cause so much trouble to him, I could even see her as a tsundere.

But the LN makes her out like a damn bitch that doesn't even want to accept that a commoner saved her sister. While Roana became somewhat better. Editor probably wants to insert Drill-rolls on the harem . I just hope he doesn't forget Sayo-chan



Rio nemesis? P***y? Mother's day? Trucks? Misunderstandings?
Who is Charlotte? The Red-haired twin-tailed loli on Volume 9?
In both cases (LN/WN) it is a tsundere lol, as he also considers his position, in Vol 1 is implied, it's also mentioned in an SS of Celia.

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http://yomeru-hj.net/novel/seirei_celia/
http://yomeru-hj.net/novel/seirei_celia/story_2.html
http://yomeru-hj.net/novel/seirei_celia/story_3.html
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Old 2018-05-16, 12:40   Link #1626
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^ She didn't give a fuck about the one that saved her life and the life of her loved one, didn't care enough to help him when he might've been injured saving the life of her loved one for the SECOND time, and had no qualms about him being branded as a traitor for those good deeds that benefited her and her sister the most even though she could've done something if she cared enough, or tried to at least.

How the hell does this look like tsundere to you? she is the definition of an ungrateful bitch.
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Old 2018-05-16, 15:32   Link #1627
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^ She didn't give a fuck about the one that saved her life and the life of her loved one, didn't care enough to help him when he might've been injured saving the life of her loved one for the SECOND time, and had no qualms about him being branded as a traitor for those good deeds that benefited her and her sister the most even though she could've done something if she cared enough, or tried to at least.

How the hell does this look like tsundere to you? she is the definition of an ungrateful bitch.
Dude first of all she is just a 12 years old brat here yet.
I agree with you but heck who never was dick brat like this girl one moment of their life.

If you read the WN in this last arcs when she is 16-17 years old, you see that all she feels about this time of her life is regret about her arrogance and selfishness and Rio himself "basically" forgives her(though she never "did" anything to him) and encourages her, she is not evil that holds prejudice like the other nobles who are a bunch of neo-n**ists but she feels a bit of jealousy about Rio talent and resignation about his suffering in the academy since he is a commoner, since different from Flora she knows the dark side of upper society and so knew nothing would change even if she said something, you can see this in this part of volume 1.

Also Flora is a "innocent choroi damsel in distress" even after growing up who's head over heels for Rio, totally different from Christina that actually has a head and one that matures over time.

So for me Christina > Flora in personality, Flora wins in moe tho.

Btw nobody asked but heroines ranks in this novel for me is Aisha(contracted spirit girls always best girls just love their devotion) > Liselotte/Satsuk/Latiffa (and village girls)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Celia/Miharu(Ln)/Flora/Christina>>>>>>(Huge barrier etc, etc etc)>>>>> others.....
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Old 2018-05-16, 21:22   Link #1628
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Dude first of all she is just a 12 years old brat here yet.
I agree with you but heck who never was dick brat like this girl one moment of their life.

If you read the WN in this last arcs when she is 16-17 years old, you see that all she feels about this time of her life is regret about her arrogance and selfishness and Rio himself "basically" forgives her(though she never "did" anything to him) and encourages her, she is not evil that holds prejudice like the other nobles who are a bunch of neo-n**ists but she feels a bit of jealousy about Rio talent and resignation about his suffering in the academy since he is a commoner, since different from Flora she knows the dark side of upper society and so knew nothing would change even if she said something, you can see this in this part of volume 1.

Also Flora is a "innocent choroi damsel in distress" even after growing up who's head over heels for Rio, totally different from Christina that actually has a head and one that matures over time.

So for me Christina > Flora in personality, Flora wins in moe tho.

Btw nobody asked but heroines ranks in this novel for me is Aisha(contracted spirit girls always best girls just love their devotion) > Liselotte/Satsuk/Latiffa (and village girls)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Celia/Miharu(Ln)/Flora/Christina>>>>>>(Huge barrier etc, etc etc)>>>>> others.....
I'm going to have to agree with Saihate. There was more than just arrogance in youth, she hated Rio. She despised the very person who saved her sister on multiple occasions and would rather let him be tortured and executed than admit a wrong that would disadvantage a weak ally. Any regret she feels is simple guilt seeking release and not real contemplation.

I do agree with you about Flora, she is the same spineless, brain-dead idiot we met at the beginning. She doesn't deserve the fortune she has had, as she never tries to help or repay the kindness given to her but instead has left Rio to suffer alone because her sister told her so.
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Old 2018-05-16, 22:00   Link #1629
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This is a strange discussion. It is very obvious that Christina has a strong desire for power and looks down on commoners. It may be due to the environment she grew up in, but Christina is cold to everyone except those close to her. Although Christina is more humane compare to the other nobles, she is willing to use anyone to further her goals. More than anything, she was her pride as a princess of her country above all others.

To some it may look like she is putting the country first; she is putting her faction above all others. If she really wanted to end the civil war peacefully, wouldn't it be easier to not to fight? I mean look at who her allies are, with allies like those who need enemies?
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Old 2018-05-17, 13:33   Link #1630
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^^^I agree mostly with what Snowbold and silenceblade said. Flora is irrelevant. She is a grateful idiot that tried her best but failed to do anything and was convinced by her sister to drop the matter because there is nothing to be done.

You see, the least thing a grateful person would do in her position, if they really couldn't risk opposing the flow publicly, is to make a request to someone trusted from the knight squad or hire someone to help the possibly injured MC after they went home from that trip and to help the MC escape the country secretly.

Also, when exactly did she feel "remorse"? Was it after Rio had a position better than a commoner? If so, that there is all you need to know.
It's like when someone wins the lottery and suddenly all kinds of "friends" and "family" try to be involved in their life.
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Old 2018-05-17, 14:54   Link #1631
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well, that's why flora isn't fit to be a royalty, especially when she is surrounded by power hungry noble. She is kind but timid, easily used by others, and always watching only because she doesn't know what to do.

Feels like your typical sheltered princess trapped in a tower that required others rescue.
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Old 2018-05-17, 15:49   Link #1632
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^Neither is Christina nor the current Royal family are fit to be royalty.
While being a royalty requires having a level head and having insight into other people's wants or plans, it also includes the duty of protecting your subjects. Especially those that contributed to the stability and safety of the kingdom (i.e. prevent the assassination of the royal sisters), not treating them as traitors for their deeds and treating them and other subjects as less than dirt. All that without mentioning the current kingdom's affairs.

The only fathomable reason that they weren't overthrown is because the commoners don't have the power of magic.
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Old 2018-05-17, 22:14   Link #1633
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what the hell ch11

is this some kind of aot or something? it suddenly became super huge.
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Old 2018-05-22, 01:16   Link #1634
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LN Vol. 1 done yay. Hope baka's fingers recover for releases.
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Old 2018-05-22, 21:36   Link #1635
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is the meeting and release of the slave collar the same in the light novel?
i fellit that was kind of rushed in the wn
meet, fight ,almost gets poisoned, wins fight, release her, goes his way ,she follows
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Old 2018-05-23, 14:01   Link #1636
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i understand princess cristina is behave too arrogance because her posisition and education as a royalty but author should added cristina dev in ln too and don't forget to add hiroaki vs rio(in ln volume 8 already have hint ) ,i like cristina in wn because she become more mature .... btw rio mention princess flora is too kind as a royalti and rio helped her because she always only one who was trying to act for his sake , well rio not to blame princess flora because false truth attemp to kill royalti, in volume 8 rio tell flora to forget about name 'rio' and call himself haruto(you can image hiroaki reaction :V )
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Old Today, 08:11   Link #1637
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Guys, what do you think of this Author's other work, " Miryou Skill de Ikinari Sekai Saikyou " ? Is it any good ?
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