2009-12-31, 02:14 | Link #1901 | |
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Of course Haruto has reasons to uniterally break up w/ Eba right away but those reasons are really weak since when he went to Tokyo the person who told him that Eba didn't wanna meet him was Rin, the person who told his friends in the town that Eba'd SEEMINGLY got a new bf/close male friend was, again, only Rin. Knowing very well that Rin has a twisted personality and used to (may still) hate Eba to the bone, if Haruto gives up on Eba w/o talking directly to her, no matter over the phone or face to face, it will make him a shaky insensible bf. Some ppl may think that sort of bf is ok, but there're also ppl, me for example, who hate that kind of guy a lot, esp. when lead guys of a romantic mangas fall into that category. |
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2009-12-31, 02:22 | Link #1902 |
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It's not like he can afford to go over there every weekend. She is avoiding him without stating any reason. It has gone beyond what could possibly be a "loyalty test". And if he goes there again and again or camps outside her place or forces his way into her home to confront her, he'd be a stalker or a criminal. It's perhaps too early for him to decide that it's over and turn to someone else, but getting picked up on the rebound is not that unusual. Of course, in this case it's probably only a "loldrama" act by the mangaka, which kind of cheapens the story, but I'll reserve final judgment until we hear Eba's side of the story.
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2009-12-31, 02:50 | Link #1903 | |||
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Does Haruto know for sure that Eba "has no problems going to school, going out with friends and get close to another guy?" Would you immediately cheat with another woman when you only SUSPECTED your girlfriend were cheating on you, despite hadn't even talked to her? Even he's sure it's Eba's fault, as a man Haruto should make everything clear before starting a new relationship. That's called being responsible. And not responsible for Eba, but for his new girlfriend, aka Kanzaki. Quote:
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2009-12-31, 04:22 | Link #1904 | |
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2009-12-31, 05:48 | Link #1905 | |
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2009-12-31, 07:25 | Link #1906 |
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For the people who think it'd be cheating if Haruto went for Nanami for the moment - note that i'm rooting for Eba when it comes to the end-girl question but in this particular situation: How many times do you think he has to try to see Eba when it's clear that she broke up contact on purpose? Now I'm pretty sure she has a good reason to do so (and also for keeping it a secret from everyone) but at this moment her actions are clearly stating that she has broken up with him.
That doesn't mean she really has a new bf at all but I think she used Rin to convey a message to Haruto so that he can move on with his life, this very message was for Haruto's sake because we know Eba is that considerate and would sacrifice her own happiness for him as she did before. |
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2009-12-31, 09:12 | Link #1908 |
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I don't see a problem with Haruto's conduct in this matter. Strictly speaking, he could have pursued a relationship with Nanami at any point in time, so long as he informed Yuzuki first. Given that the lines of communication are presently cut, then his responsibility would be to tell Yuzuki as soon as it was feasible to do so (if he decided to pursue a different relationship).
The question of whether he should wait isn't a moral or ethical one, but more a matter of how much effort Haruto wants to put into the relationship. Simply put, if Haruto still has hope that he can work things out, then he'll wait for Yuzuki. If he doesn't, then he'll get over her. Granted, I'm not suggesting that he ought to use Nanami as a rebound girl, but that's a different issue altogether. While I don't see a flaw in Nanami's conduct, either, the situation makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. For one, it's difficult to gauge how much of Nanami's actions were initiated out of regard for Haruto and how much were precipitated out of fear of the "girl sitting on the back of his bike". Her timing leaves something to be desired as well. Although the break in communication occured just after Haruto and Yuzuki appeared to reconcile, I can't tell whether the communication break has some lingering link to the incident during the class trip or not. This wouldn't be a problem if Nanami wasn't (unintentionally) embroiled in their conflict at the time, but she was. As such, I'm not sure that I'm comfortable with her seizing the present opportunity, even though I see nothing wrong with her doing so. This is more of a gut reaction than anything else, though. |
2009-12-31, 11:24 | Link #1909 |
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Why are some getting so heated over this? especially when we don't know anything on Eba's side of things.
Anyway, when did Haruto went to Tokyo? He hasn't went there since the school trip O_o... unless I completely overlooked something.
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2009-12-31, 11:36 | Link #1910 |
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It was mentioned, but it was way too subtle - the first two bubbles. And on the following page Haruto says he spoke to Rin, which was when he went back to Tokyo after the trip.
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2009-12-31, 11:41 | Link #1911 | |
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I beg to disagree. If Haruto is a good bf what he should do is taking the bus to Tokyo one more time or two on the weekend and wait for Eba near her house, if Eba is fine or dating a new guy it’s very unlikely that she’ll stay in the house for the whole day, if she actually doesn’t walk out of the house even for a second then there must be something wrong w/ her health, and Haruto will need to talk to Eba’s parents to know the truth. Even if he can’t make it on the weekend, skipping a school day is not that big of a deal considering he’s dealing w/ an important matter involving the girl he loves. And there’s no way in hell these actions will turn him into a stalker or something b/c they are legal, bonafide and unsystematic. It may take some time to save money for the bus ticket (approx. 7,000 yen one-way), in the meantime, the least he should do is calling Rin AND the eldest brother to ask about Eba, cross-checking is necessary here. “Forced to believe in the hearsay”? No thanks, Sir. There’s no one other than Rin who has spread the rumors about Eba, and there’re quite a few things Haruto can do yet hasn’t done to know the truth, so I’d say he can choose, of his own free will, to believe in what Rin said and give up on Eba to go for Kanzaki right away. Since it’s possibly Eba who’s trying to avoid him in the first place no one will be able to blame him for cheating, but he’ll fail to be a good bf if he actually does so. What I mean is, Haruto already knows that Rin likes to mess up other ppl’s affairs and Eba has a tendency to take care of troubles on her own so IF he buys Rin’s words to break up w/ Eba that’ll mean he doesn’t have much faith in her and is not sensible. He should try to identify Eba’s problems even when she wanna hide them. Of course, strictly speaking, guys who quickly quit upon bumping into a lil hardship is not blamable, some, you for example, may even love them, but people have every right to hate them for being shaky. |
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2009-12-31, 13:22 | Link #1913 | |
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So it's about 36,700 for Shinkansen, 29,600 for the limited express (hyperdia calc), and 14,000 for a bus (let's assume he wants to get back home after going there). Still a lot of money for a highschool kid. His family did not look particularly rich iirc. He'll have to see about getting part-time work at that restaurant again... ^_^;;; Eba is turning into a pretty high-maintenance girl.
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2009-12-31, 19:38 | Link #1916 |
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First I would like to say to anyone suggesting that Rin has been, could be or ever was in any way helpful, you need to go back and see what a rotten little B**** she is. As for Haruto and Eba I expect them to mess this up. It is what high schoolers excell at.
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