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2011-08-05, 11:25 | Link #144 | |
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Itachi in Naruto side. It's a much more better plot device to convince Sasuke rather than just using Naruto words. Nagato goes in full strength. Bee is unconcious, leaving Naruto and Itachi to defeat him. Considering how Nagato can easily repel Amaterasu by Shinra Tensei, the trump card will be Susanoo. |
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2011-08-05, 15:34 | Link #147 | |
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2011-08-05, 15:42 | Link #148 |
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Discerptor, whilst you've have made some great points, this is the one thing that I have to disagree with. Naruto actually says: "You've done more than enough for the villiage already. Leave the rest to me.". He's essentially said that what Itachi did was a noble thing and everyone here knows that Naruto opinions are the moral compass in this manga.So it does sound to me like the chapter is describing it as a noble act even though it's in the very least incredibly controversal.
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2011-08-05, 16:25 | Link #149 |
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I believe he was referring to the whole Uchiha massacre and taking the fall for the sake of the village thing with that statement. Referring specifically to brainwashing Sasuke is not likely, since technically Itachi hadn't done that yet (nor will he ever get the chance to now). But more importantly, saying you've valued a soldier's service in a de facto retirement speech isn't the same as agreeing with everything he's done and the way he did them. It means just that: "Thanks for all you've done, and now we'll take it from here." If anything, it simply acknowledges that Naruto believes everything Itachi did was for the village. While we could say the same for Danzou, I don't think anyone would be giving him awards for morality.
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Fuinjutsu (Sealing). That is how Itachi placed an Amaterasu trap inside Sasuke's eye, and that is how he placed a genjutsu command in Shisui's eye. Last edited by james0246; 2011-08-05 at 23:34. |
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2011-08-06, 05:57 | Link #156 |
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I think what Itachi feared was that Sasuke, as a blank slate, could be manipulated by just about anybody to do just about anything. Up to and including being turned into an enemy of Konoha; not 'just 'cause.' And as we see, Madara did just that.
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2011-08-06, 11:12 | Link #157 |
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I just assumed that Itachi suspected Madara would try and manipulate him against Konoha. It's not like Sasuke's motive for revenge doesn't have a basis. The segregation and eventual massacre of clan he belonged to and clearly had a lot of pride in is more than enough reason, and Madara could've told him at any point.
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I'm not sure what you are not satisfied with,that's the way it works,just like we can make a certain program/event trigger when a condition is met,this is how it works in their world. Maybe the sealing is complicated,but this is what it was meant to do,this is how Itachi "programmed" it. It seems like you're just trying to prove that Kishi sucks at writing,since you keep expressing your dissatisfaction with one explanation or another. I understand that the manga is not perfect,but you also have to understand that it's a shonen manga,as another author you want more details,but an average person would want more action,just my opinion,because i honestly don't care how it works(even though it has been explained). |
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What I don't understand is howcome nagato (an uzumaki) didn't need any uchiha gene splicing in order to control the rinnengan.. Nor does Madara (apparently) need senju chakra for his rinnengan.. But everyone needs uchiha AND senjuu (hashirama) chakra innorder to use the sharingan to the maximum potential. Edit: Madara has has hashiramas cells inside his body (the zetsu) while using rinnengan. So does that mean nagato has some uchiha heritage/gene splicing? Or is that why he became decrepit?
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