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Old 2013-03-24, 03:36   Link #13001
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Am I the only one who thinks 2 Year old Medaka and Zen looks so adorable together.

As far as shipping goes doesn't really matter as long as its well written/developed
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Old 2013-03-24, 04:49   Link #13002
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Well I was just stating how I saw both relationships once I consider everyone's thoughts. So to be honest I never saw Medaka being dependent on Zenkichi. I saw their first encounter as Zenkichi being the first person to step into her world. He gave her a purpose and proposed to him. He rejected but she still wanted to be with him because she was interested in him not dependant on him. She could do anything alone but why not spend it with someone you care for (someone important). Just like with Kumagawa that "dependancy" could just have happened later especially after being together for so many years. Yes their relationship is weird but I don't think it has nothing to do with "dependancy". At least not the root cause like in Kumagawa's situation.

Also Medaka has shown that she doesn't need Zen to accomplish something and to expect him to be there after she comes back does not make it bad. Heck, If I love someone I would want that person to be there when I came back. So if they really do love each other their love can be thought of as weird but not weak or fake and not the healthiest at the moment compared to Kumagawa's love. Now with Zen I somewhat agree with you so I would like to see more about him if he changes regardless if he ends up with Medaka or not.

I haven't read all of the forum comments but what made you try and get so much information about all this and prove people wrong? Was it because everybody was against the idea of Kumagawa x Medaka? Well in the end I cant really say I disagree or agree with you but I do consider it a good point of view. I guess I just happen to see it differently.

As for shipping even when Zen and Medaka were engaged I still gave Kumagawa 50% chance that he could still end up with Medaka. Just as I give Zenkichi 50% chance of getting back together. In the end who cares I just hope whatever direction he goes it gets better without removing Zen or Kumagawa like what they kind of did with Akune.

So I agree with BladeEntity that as long as its well written I'll be happy. So I'll just wait and see what happens.
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Old 2013-03-24, 06:39   Link #13003
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On another note, this arc honestly has the feel of the final arc of Medaka it seems to be building up to a proper finale here. Of course anything can happen but I would say its a 75% chance of being the finale of Medaka box. Especially considering chapter 1 actually foreshadowed the bouquet of flowers farewell. So everything is coming full circle and coming to a close in my opinion.
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Old 2013-03-24, 08:57   Link #13004
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It's no trivial "bouquet of flowers". It's - bouquet toss. IMHO. Hint in name of the arc.
http://wiki.weddingbee.com/Bouquet_toss
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Old 2013-03-24, 09:48   Link #13005
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Okay, it makes some reasonable sense, and I think I was thinking similarly in that Medaka obviously symbolized "victory" as she's the opposite of Kumagawa. But I think it's worth analyzing their interests. Do these people love the person or their qualities? I remember Zenkichi emphasizing that "even if they made clones of Medaka, or people just like her, it would still be her that he would be in love with".

Is it the same with Kumagawa? Again, I feel I'm mostly harping on semantics, since of course I don't doubt their pivotal relationship but the fact that it would have to turn out such a way.

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Old 2013-03-24, 12:54   Link #13006
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Anyone else think that Medaka will get 99 flowers from the students/guests, only to find that Zenkichi had the last flower along with the first
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Old 2013-03-24, 13:02   Link #13007
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Anyone else think that Medaka will get 99 flowers from the students/guests, only to find that Zenkichi had the last flower along with the first
Depending on his growth throughout this arc, that could be a pretty satisfying and realistic development, but I think the most likely direction for the story to take is for Ajimu to hold the final flower, which I'd prefer.

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Old 2013-03-24, 23:05   Link #13008
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Anyone else think that Medaka will get 99 flowers from the students/guests, only to find that Zenkichi had the last flower along with the first
Anshin'in making her appearance is, depending if they make another arc or end the manga here, probably more realistic since she was pretty much announced by Ikihiko.
I like the Zenkichi variation too though, because he went down a bit too easy in my eyes lol
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Old 2013-03-25, 07:17   Link #13009
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I like the Zenkichi variation too though, because he went down a bit too easy in my eyes lol
Well...it's not like he really intended to fight her seriously, he kinda said that he wanted to get hit as so to crush out the childish part of him that still wanted to cling to Medaka despite him wanting to grow up.
And, though he did become the most powerful character in the series for one single chapter to defeat the Fallen Hero, he's always been fairly weak without Contradictory Conjunction.

I don't know. Didn't really bother me.
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Old 2013-03-25, 07:21   Link #13010
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Won't surprise me if Zenkichi had the first flower and he also has the last.
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Old 2013-03-25, 07:52   Link #13011
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It is pretty much official that this is the final arc of the series. Nisio ends all his series the same way and that is a boss rush.
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Old 2013-03-25, 09:11   Link #13012
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then again, I thought the same for the Black Jet Wedding arc bc that seemed to be a total setup for boss rush as well
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Old 2013-03-27, 07:39   Link #13013
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Where are ma spoilers.
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Old 2013-03-27, 07:47   Link #13014
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Where are ma spoilers.
Spoiler for chapter 188:
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Old 2013-03-28, 19:27   Link #13015
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Here's the list of people Medaka must defeat.

Spoiler for spoiler:


Yet the interesting part is in the remaining participants.

Spoiler for spoiler:
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Old 2013-03-28, 22:41   Link #13016
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^should cross out medaka there you know.

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Old 2013-03-29, 10:47   Link #13017
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^Nope. You seem to have forgotten something.

EDIT: Raw is out. To anyone who thought this would be a tournament, lolololol.

EDIT2:

Spoiler for spoiler:

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Old 2013-03-29, 14:22   Link #13018
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Dat author laziness. Lets have an chapter where the MC off panels almost everyone. Sounds like an amazing idea. No wonder this is so often ranked in the bottom 5. Honestly before I thought it was undeseving but the authors trying really hard, to make that position deserving.

There's always that room for twists, but most of the recent twists in Medaka box end up for the negative not positive. Urge to skip arc is rising.
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Old 2013-03-29, 14:38   Link #13019
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Of course she off-panels everyone. This manga is slow-paced enough as it is. Besides, it's not important to show these things.
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Old 2013-03-29, 14:43   Link #13020
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^Indeed, is not lazyness. Or would you spend many chapters developing fights knowing which the outcome is.

Plus going by a process of elimination, you can more or less guess who is gonna give her a run for her money.



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