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2009-01-07, 15:23 | Link #82 | |
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2009-01-07, 16:00 | Link #83 | |
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Wanna know why Gaza casualties are disproportionately high? Spoiler for Simple hamas tactics:
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2009-01-07, 16:21 | Link #85 |
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Begs the question 'Why haven't the Palestinian people done much more to curb the blatent terrorism against Israel?'
It's hard to provide out and out sympathy when Hamas has, for many years now, indiscriminantly bombarded Israel with mortars/rockets. Doesn't condone or condemn the actions of Israel but should Israel really just sit back letting Hamas fire rockets at civilians? The area needs much more internal 'policing' before any serious discussions towards peace can make any progress. Well, in my view... Last edited by LithiumHelios; 2009-01-07 at 16:24. Reason: Small typo |
2009-01-07, 16:26 | Link #86 | |
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i wonder how many israelis have died in terrorist attacks until now, huh? u got now clue how bad the situation has been in Israel because of all the Katyusha rockets and stuff like that- well I do, i got a family living there. so do me a favor and don't talk if u don't have something really clever to say coz right now your understanding is as low as the floor. |
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2009-01-07, 16:35 | Link #87 |
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Props to IDF for (still) perfecting surgical strikes and intelligence gathering to minimize collateral damage. This is something that US have yet to master and they still have more to learn from IDF.
Some people may say that casualties are disproportionately high for Gazans... well that's because Hamas (terrorist) Organization perfected the art of using human shields to win artificial support and symphaty in case they get bombed. |
2009-01-07, 17:39 | Link #89 |
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The thing is, though, that just because terrorists are using innocent victims as human shields does not give you the right to dismiss those innocents as collateral damage. If there was a terrorist incident here in the US, do you think our police could just blow up a city block where the terrorists were hiding? Do you think the police could open fire in a crowd to hit a terrorist, and later excuse their actions by saying it's the terrorist's fault for running into a crowd in the first place? If a terrorist hid on your block, would you be fine with the military bombing your house into the ground and killing your family to get the bad guy? If their later explanation was just that it was the terrorist's fault for hiding in your house, and they have no responsibility, do you really think that would suffice?
I have some sympathy for Israel, since their current situation has no easy answer. But the fact that it's horrible for a terrorist to use human shields doesn't make it any less horrible to simply dismiss those human shields as collateral damage. |
2009-01-07, 17:58 | Link #90 | |
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US didn't hurt Iraqian innocents during the war there...not at all why u ppl cant get it? Israel is doing the right and the best thing it can do for the first time!!! so stop writing all this bullshit! just to remind you that the palestinians voted in a democrticly way the Hamas to rule Gaza- they are not so naive, they are well aware the Hamas is a terror organization wishes to destroy Israel so they must acknowledge the consequences of their actions... |
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2009-01-07, 18:13 | Link #92 | |
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2009-01-07, 18:39 | Link #93 | |
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Palestians do have a choice. They can choose to do nothing and become human shields for Hamas and human colleteral damage in media reports or they can stop being Human shield and not let Hamas fire rockets form thier homes. if Hamas is not firing rockets form where the oridinary people are then the oridinary people won't become colleteral damage when israel retaliate.
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2009-01-07, 19:01 | Link #94 |
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I'm on the Israelis. When it comes to a war of civilizations, go with the side that is secular and has the technology. I have nothing against Arabs though, but I think that they're horribly outclassed materially and culturally by the Jews today. Morals don't matter.
And only stupid folks intentionally bait these, or those who disregard civilian (their own) casualties. Spoiler:
So palestinians' argument is moot. Hamas don't care about their people. They want them killed by Israelis for P.R. Last edited by Thingle; 2009-01-07 at 19:13. |
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2009-01-07, 19:23 | Link #96 | |
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2009-01-07, 19:24 | Link #97 |
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@Xellos: I think what Israel now needs to ponder over is whether to continue as a Jewish state, or a state where Jews are merely a majority. Given demographic trends, they'll have to start finding a new national anthem very quickly. Israel has struggled between secularism and religion since its modern founding. Heck, the modern founding has pretty deep religious roots.
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2009-01-07, 19:27 | Link #98 |
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I hope the UN realize that wars are of only 2 kinds: Total war or No war. None of this humanitarian crisis BS...or this pre-occupation with surgical strikes to "avoid innocents". Thinking too much about collateral damage distracts a nation's war effort and lessens their offensive ability.
About the daily 3 hour break? It's a disgrace. So unnatural of war. Damn politics getting in the way! Who knows how many rockets get smuggled within those 3 hours. |
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