2007-03-12, 13:51 | Link #841 | |
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There is one good guy in Black Lagoon: Garcia Lovelace! The boy hero of justice. All Catholic virtue and steady upbringing aside, he actually never killed anyone! His dad was similarly a good guy but I won't mention him because... well, let's just say he's removed from the plot eventually.
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2007-03-12, 13:52 | Link #842 |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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I think the last dance will be some outside group wiping them all out. All the mafia organizations and their sub units including Black lagoon if my Hotel Moscow theory is not the end.
Either another crime organization or a government group. |
2007-03-12, 14:16 | Link #843 | |
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And yes, what an upstandingly moral member of the community he is! Everyone should strive to be like the Lovelace's. Pillars of the community who run one of the 6 largest drug cartels in the region! And not only that, he hires one of the most deadly guerilla's to be his maid! Yay! *sarcasm* As much as I love the series, the whole part where Garcia was describing his life with the his father and Roberta, which made it look like they were genteel country nobility had me cracking up. The Lovelace familly is about as far removed from innocent as you can get. Garcia is still naive, but as Balalaika said, he will make a good head of the familly someday. And old man Lovelaces's hands are stained with blood, just like the rest of them. |
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2007-03-12, 15:33 | Link #844 | |
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1)According to Garcia, the Lovelaces are one of thirteen leading families (land owning but poor ex-aristocracy) in South America, who have been on the decline ever since the Cartels arrived, first to buy and then to interfere with their farm lands. He also mentions that his father is an old fashioned man who did not "expand into new business ventures." The behavior by the cartels reveals an important detail; that the Lovelace's were not using their lands for drug-related activities, even though the soil composition of their land was extraordinarily suitable for narcotics, so much that the Cartels tried to take it from them and kidnap Garcia as a means to reach that objective and take revenge. 2)According to Balalaika's research and Garcia's own words, the Lovelace's have only one servant (later on we see that they hired a new one). There's no mention of a private army, or any sizable membership necessary of a crime organization. 3) Roberta was not hired by Diego; rather, he took her under his wing after she quit FARC and was on the run due to his friendship to her deceased father. It is also clear that from that point on until she goes to Roanapour to rescue Garcia, she served the Lovelace's only in the capacity of a maid, albeit a poor one who could neither cook nor clean. And 4... Spoiler for Manga Volume 6:
In conclusion: The Lovelace family under Diego was not a part of a drug cartel, but as Garcia, Rock, and Balalaika confirmed, a poor landed Family that has declined from former prestige. Roberta took it upon herself to serve the Family in what ways she could, as a maid and later on a body guard when the need arose. The recent storyline centered on the Lovelace is still continuing, so we'll see how that turns out.
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2007-03-12, 16:27 | Link #846 |
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Ok, that clears it up.
When I watched the anime it seemed like they were part of a cartel, just a minor one which had fallen onto hard times. Their land was suitable for farming, but it would have been more profitable on the short term to extract the mineral used in ceramics. The other cartels wanted the land, so they pressured Diego by kidnapping Garcia. At least that's the way I saw it. Also keep in mind, Balalaika seems to hold some respect for the familly, respect that she doesn't give easily. I haven't read the manga, but I'll agree with you that the Lovelace familly is about as close to "Good guys" as you can get, in the shady world of Black Lagoon. |
2007-03-14, 04:25 | Link #849 | |
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This assumes of course that Black Lagoon isn't a bi-monthly manga . Anyone know for sure?
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2007-03-26, 09:53 | Link #853 |
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i just watched the whole of series 1 on dvd - subbed, & i have to say the translation was pretty poor! very literal translations that hardly make sense most of the time.
whoever said the ciggarette kiss in the police car scene was pretty hot you are well right! they HAVE TO get it on in some way at some stage. oh and also the scene in ep 10 (i think) where rock wakes her up and leans over to open the window blinds, that was pretty nice too. revy is soft at heart, she just wants a hug & needs looking after! i'm downloading the 2nd series now - i'm a bit behind and this is my first post on this site so hi! |
2007-03-28, 05:29 | Link #859 |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Better a few pockets of bad English than a crappy English dub job
Funnily enough, this issue came up on the threads in YouTube for Full Moon wo Sagashite. My replies there appear to apply here except the idiotic/mature ratio of posters seem much more favorable here
First off, it's a Japanese show, so it's aimed towards a Japanese audience. It's pretty obvious that whatever language is being spoken is for the benefit of the audience it's intended for. Since Rock was hired to be an interpreter for Balalaika and Revi is Chinese-American, it's my guess you're to assume everyone's speaking English. A good American example of this is "Enemy at the Gates". Instead of having Jude Law and Rachel Weiz learn Russian for two years before filming, they speak English and leave it to the audience to figure out that yes, they're Russian and therefore speaking Russian. Personally, I think Black Lagoon handled this better by having Revi and Balalaika speaking English (albeit horribly) to cue the audience before reverting back to Japanese. It definitely aids in perceiving all those moments of tension and alienation certain characters find themselves in during this series. Also, I agree about the "hotness" of the cigarette kiss. It's my favorite scene in the entire series. Discarding the usual Hollywood-type cliche' and replacing it with disturbing elegance. |
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