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2008-12-18, 05:22 | Link #2143 | |
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Thats only true until the Gurens initial deployment however. Once Lakshata gets a look at Kallens combat data, which she would eventually if for no other reason than to see how it performed and to iron out its bugs, its not that hard to assume that she'd go "Oh she's using it at 88% of its power? I wonder how she's handle the Shen Hu?". Obviously since he began coughing up blood 5 secs after the fight was finished, if it had dragged out any longer Xing Ke and Shen Hu would've ended up FUBAR. |
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2008-12-18, 06:59 | Link #2144 |
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the shen hu actually looks like a britannian 7th gen more then the guren types (guren gekka and akatsuki)
i wonder if it wasnt actually built at the same time as the OLD guren as in the one we never actaually saw on the show the one we saw was the guren MK II the MK I was never actually seen (im guessing they are differet machines) and im guessing that it was more like a britannian KMF then the later guren types (at least in the cockpit design) and about kallen piloting it i think its rather obvius that she could pilot it she piloted a much more powerful machine later on (and was able to match the shen hu in a slightly lesser machine)
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2008-12-18, 07:26 | Link #2145 | |
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My thoughts exactly. I was 90% sure that it was built around the same time as the original Guren and i'm glad to see that you agree that she could pilot it. |
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2008-12-18, 15:05 | Link #2146 | |
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I'm not trying to say that Kallen can't pilot it or something. All I'm saying is that the people in the show just didn't know she could pilot advanced machines despite them being over-spec'd. I don't think the Guren Nishiki is considered a machine only few can pilot because they never said it was such, when they did say it was such for the Lancelot. If it was, I think it would've been mentioned, but it only got mentioned for its third incarnation, the SEITEN Hakkyoukashiki. Skillwise, Kallen can definitely pilot it without problems. She's also likely one of the few people who could effectively pilot the Lancelot.
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2008-12-18, 15:28 | Link #2147 | |
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2008-12-18, 15:32 | Link #2148 | |
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2008-12-18, 15:37 | Link #2149 | |
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2008-12-18, 15:41 | Link #2150 |
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actually Lloyd said that at "even at only 60% power output it could ..."
not that she was actually using only 60% and what ever power out power she was using it was a match for the max power output that suzaku could use the albion at with his live geass on the albion mind you was CUSTOM BUILT for suzaku it was probably lower then suzaku's albion power output using level but not by much
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2008-12-18, 15:44 | Link #2151 | |
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And no, we don't know that Kallen was using it at that percent: Lloyd said that "even if someone brought it up to sixty percent". Not that Kallen had brought it up to 60%. Simply put, we don't know what level of efficiency she was using it at.
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2008-12-18, 15:52 | Link #2152 | |
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2008-12-18, 15:56 | Link #2153 | |
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i dont think that suzaku could use the albion at 100% power output but what ever level he could use it at when using his geass order (probably 90%) kallen used the guren at a power level that equals that much but its probably like 80% power output from what the guren's max can do (since the guren was more powerful)
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2008-12-18, 16:23 | Link #2155 |
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by the way
how exactly DOES kallen know that suzaku seemed pretty sure he'd win the fight (and is surprised that he cant) and its not like rakshata had a chance to inspect the lancelot (any version of it) kallen thinks that she should have better specs which should let her win but suzaku isnt too worried about the spec difference and while kallen has no real way of knowing that the SEITEN is better suzaku would have a VERY good way of knowing (Lloyd did make both) and after the beating he took in ep 18 i dont think that its possible for suzaku to get his new albion and not ask "how would this compere with the guren" suzaku knows the answer and expcets to win kallen has no real way of knowing and yet she says it the whole thing just reeks of bad writing IMO which was commen for the final arc) the whole thing is made evident in exactly one line from kallen (who has no real way to be sure) and if you think about it logiclly there is no reason what so ever for Lloyd to make the albion LESS powerful then the SEITEN he could use his new tech to make the guren (which he just got handed) powerful to a level but he cant make his newly built KMF just as powerful iit was his tech that gave the guren higher specs after all i think that from a plot point of view its just a counter for the whole "live geass SEED mode" they needed kallen to say something to show that suzaku is strong (in the same way that he said she was)
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2008-12-18, 16:27 | Link #2156 | |
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Warning: Flimsy theory ahead: All I can say is that likely, after Lelouch and Suzaku disappeared for a month, Gino or someone probably talked to Lloyd about the Lancelot Albion and found out its specs, and later he told the other Knights of Rounds about it after the coup. And then after all but three of the Knights of Rounds died at its hands, Gino told what he knew of it to Lakshata and the Black Knights. Of course, this is only a theory, in no way should it be considered canon.
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2008-12-18, 20:37 | Link #2160 | |
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Suzaku: What's the status of the Lancelot? *skip filler part about which Lancelot* Cecile: It's just about to roll out. Hence, no, it was not completed first. In fact, it isn't even completed in the freaking episode or he would have flown it instead of some lousy shuttle.
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