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Advocating the use of force aimed at inciting or producing imminent lawless action or encouraging someone to commit suicide, false statements of fact [including but not limited to libel and slander], obscenity, child pornography, fighting words and offensive speech [including but not limited to direct threats of violence], speech owned by others and commercial speech. |
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2017-08-22, 09:46 | Link #242 | |
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2017-08-22, 09:49 | Link #243 | |
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And that is the issue; Free speech being unlimited to accommodate intolerance is a problem though, most of the world seems to get that; and it's known as the paradox of tolerance because it threatens tolerance in a civil society and thus restricting hateful speech is necessary to protect tolerance. This tweet's image explains it perfectly:
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Example: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1748454.html That is, 1st amendment rights aren't as absolute as one would think. Much like how the you can't buy a Anti-Tank gun for the 2nd amendment. (Although you can buy a flamethrower) And yes, there have been smart pricks as the aforementioned WBC but fortunately the majority of our hate peddlers aren't as smart. Quote:
The 1st amendment protects us from the State from interfering in freedom of speech. So I was going through the social implications because no actions take place in a vacuum. Of course, laws regarding violence still apply mind you. Though do remember, we do give special protections to various groups, though that do not apply here. And there are certainly non-violent ways to deal with it. People have recently lost their jobs for being involved, and it is only reasonable to think that businesses would not want to employ people like that. People have started to stop doing businesses with people involved with this shit. So in a sense, allowing them to assemble has other benefits too.... Quote:
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EDIT: http://wset.com/news/local/go-home-n...met-with-anger lol, gotta back up your own kind, even if they murder.
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2017-08-22, 14:36 | Link #245 |
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The "Weimar America" comparisons are apt, if a bit hyperbolic and sometimes mistaken.
In Germany, the nazis arose as reactionaries to an impending communist revolution, and the two sides' militias fought openly in the streets. Centrist liberals in the government twiddled their thumbs before eventually condemning the hard left and giving a free pass to the nazis. They may not have had a chance to keep control with the state failing economically and all, but a better move would've been to equally condemn and ridicule the radicals on both sides, and equally apply law and order in their rallies. Even if at a certain juncture one side is clearly the more egregious one... because that could easily change if they are empowered and given a free pass.
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2017-08-22, 19:42 | Link #247 |
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https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/stat...00269383581697
Very fine people. I can assure you. https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/900161420641415170 Incredible... Last edited by MCAL; 2017-08-22 at 20:14. |
2017-08-22, 20:36 | Link #248 |
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http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...17-gxyamq.html
/shrugs Co-organizer seems like a decent dude.
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2017-08-23, 18:11 | Link #249 |
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https://twitter.com/VA_GOP/status/900443931539890176 (Tweet in question in screenshots below. Plus a bonus!)
We're sorry our racism was too obvious. We'll be sure to make it look less obvious tomorrow. |
2017-08-26, 16:22 | Link #250 |
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/2...p2jwMAfr?amp=1
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2017-08-26, 18:33 | Link #251 |
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http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/...n-11961550.php
Ah, nothing here then. Guess they'll retreat to the nazicave
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2017-08-27, 00:44 | Link #252 | |
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2017-08-29, 00:58 | Link #253 |
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http://m.sfgate.com/local/article/Co...h-12016792.php
Well SF seemed to handle it well. I guess I can be proud of my city for once. Y'all didn't fuck up just once. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.c6ccc8dc68bb Here's how not to do it. http://www.theonion.com/article/anti...eo-nazi--56783 And this is the Onion, but it might as well be real.
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2017-09-07, 15:07 | Link #255 |
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So we pardon a racist scumbag Sheriff that has clearly violated laws and brought harm to people, but we are going to deport people for their parents' crimes? Because we all know when we give the State broad powers to hunt for people never, ever causes collateral damage. All because Fuck Obama?
This country doesn't cater to racists at all. Can't wait for the black suited men to come break my car's window because they think an illegal's child is hiding inside.
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2017-09-07, 15:35 | Link #259 |
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It's been around for a very long time yes. But there have been many cases where abuse of it has gotten more frequent, especially since the War on Drugs, which certainly has some degree of legitimacy has also resulted in much collateral damage.
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