2007-09-05, 14:09 | Link #8921 |
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@Lowe: A very touching piece, I must say. Shinji's departure was well-described, along with Kay's emotions, but, as said before- what will happen now? I am intrigued, good sir, and I await more.
If any of you recall the scene in which V assaults a group of Numbers and guards, I've also done another version...much more...ehm, how should I say this...vicious. This is what would happen if V got cheesed before he faced Scag...or, in the least, a snippet of it. Spoiler for Bloody Masquerade:
This is only alternate, but... Don't mess with V. I found writing this to be somewhat hard, and, as with the former piece off of which I based this, partly painful, too. But...do tell me what you all think of this. Last edited by Dream_Traveller; 2007-09-05 at 14:37. |
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Unfortunately, space-time is actually one of field I'm rather interested in. Theoretical applications of course. And I do try to understand it. Like the possible solutions to the causality paradox mentioned above (which there are two, that form the basis of the solution for most time-travel situations: parallel alternate timelines or predetermination). Quote:
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Nove wasn't just knocked out this time around... she truly got wasted!!! And now Cinque is much angrier than ever
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2007-09-05, 14:38 | Link #8923 |
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The trouble with doing something like this is...
It gets Cinque angry. Angry enough not to hold back... Angry enough to explode V from the inside out merely by touching him, and rumble detonating the metal in his body...the calcium in his bones, the iron in his blood, the potassium and sodium in his nerves. After this, her IS may well end up nicknamed 'Rumble Blender', because that's what will look like happened to V... ( tip to all OC's: do not get Cinque angry enough to stop her holding back...) |
2007-09-05, 14:45 | Link #8924 | |||
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Spoiler for I'd say you were looking at something like this:
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"Anakin? Yeah, I remember him. Squirt could race, won the Boonta to get us the parts we need, then flew his fighter in a droid ship and blew it up a few weeks later, freeing an opressed planet. He couldn't stand being ruffled, though. Why do you ask?" Jake Tyrell to a now bug-eyed Luke Skywalker One more for the biggest thread in Animesuki! |
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2007-09-05, 14:53 | Link #8925 | |
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"Though this be madness, there is method in 't." V is in...well, something of a partly-controlled rage. He can notice what's going on around him, obviously, and, despite him being infuriated, he...well, knows what he's doing. It's only really when he faces Scag that he loses every shred of self-control...and, if what you said about Rumble Detonator is true, V will have to keep his guard up, but, as said, there is a method to his madness. And to you Keroko...that scenario is WIN! More, I beseech you! |
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2007-09-05, 15:05 | Link #8927 | |||||
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It is odd I admit, but it was crafted that way to prevent rampant time travel abuse. Under allot of methods for this kind of thing you ought to be able to pick a time to enter the other universe, which opens up rampant time travel and all sorts of issues like in the novel “Forever War” novel where in you have ships coming back into from a battle a thousand years in the future while another next it came back from a thousand years in the past, etc, etc. This way though since all universes are on a linked timeline anyone traveling between them isn’t time traveling but is merely changing location. So to avoid the above issues I basiclly said “all universes are linked by a single timeline, so you can travel between them, but only to one universal “present” no flying into another universe 10,000 years in the past or anything. Now the “present” for one place could be the stone age and it could be the Culture for another, but still spatially speaking all universes are on the same clock. It also just so happens that the “present” of a universe often seems to coincide with an era depicted in the relevant fiction… funny that. Bizarrely though time travel WITHIN a universe is possible, to an extent (it was too rampant in source materials for shows I wanted to include to totally disallow), but it’s difficult and fraught with risk. The universe also enforces consistency control, basiclly anything you do while going back in time is because you were supposed to go back and do it to begin with! So history is basiclly set anything that has happened was supposed to happen and will happen, and even if someone goes back and seemingly “alters” something that has happened, they really haven’t cause acutally even THAT was supposed to happen. The future though is anything but set, until something has happened it isn’t protected so you’re still shaping the future, but once the future becomes the present and then past, it’s protected from tampering. Or something like that, this stuff makes my head hurt, basiclly I just didn’t want to deal with time travel and shit and just said “everyone’s on the same damn time end of story.” Why? Because I’m the fucking god of this place and I said so. Quote:
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2007-09-05, 15:29 | Link #8928 | ||
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Wow Lowe, you're still awake?
Just some backlog smashing... Still a bit out of the loop as far as current discussions are concerned, but I gotta say, Tk3997, that's some pretty interesting stuff you got there. I like your idea of people who go back in time are really doing it because they are supposed to. Quote:
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2007-09-05, 15:32 | Link #8929 | |
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2007-09-05, 15:38 | Link #8930 | ||||||
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It's probably because I do believe in the big bang being the origin of just ONE universe, and not a multiverse that I find this concept refreshing, but odd That linear interpretation of Predetermination though is a bit harder to swallow for me. While we all talk about time in terms of "past" "present" and "future" in normal conversation, as an enthusiast of relativity I believe that time does not flow like a river where you move from one point of time into the next, and the "future becomes the present then becomes the past" in a linear fashion, and that you create a "timeline" like how you'd lay a red carpet. I see a much more elegant, yet somewhat confusing timeline where past, present and future only hold meaning to the beholder experiencing the event. For a time traveller, saying that he just travelled into the past isn't quite accurate: Past compared to his "previous" temporal location, but "currently", his "past" is the "present". And that even though the "future" is set, one can still "choose" which "future" he can choose due to the uncertainty principle. In fact, I can go so far and basically violate the dictum that "one cannot travel back any further into the past than the first time machine" and actually justify it by offering a grandiose looping "time", where time, as a WHOLE, not just the universe, or the multiverse, but literally EVERYTHING, loops around itself. Which means that, if you wait patiently enough (an eternity in our mere human comprehension), you'll end up right back where you started in the this "present", which was the "past" that you reached waiting for the "future" So in fact, you can go back in time further back than when your time machine was built, because as far as the long-term, your "future" would lead to your past anyway I can actually explain the same thing about SPACE itself, basing on an unusual concept I read about regarding string theory,but in layman understanding, "the large is the small, and the small is the large". (Considering storytelling, my central character finds herself in a dilemna: Why try and maintain order in space-time, and in different universes, when in the long-term it wouldn't make any difference, if the same thing will inevitably occur again, no matter the intervention?) If only I have more accurate words to describe the relationships between the past, the present and the future that work in relativistic terms while being absolute in definition. [/fiction] Quote:
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Well timeline-wise, this part takes place before the Zubaida Arc, so this'll be her first time having the AI's out with their own bodies. She's been a mother to her "children" before, but now with physical bodies that maternal instinct's gonna snowball, as seen in the Zubaida Arc At least Glock knows that to expect when their children truly are human...
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2007-09-05, 15:46 | Link #8931 |
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I don't hold any animosity towards Nove, good sir- it's just I see her as one of the Numbers more susceptible to death. I highly doubt any of the Numbers will die in StrikerS, but Nove just seems to me like one of those characters who faces death in some senses. I like her, yes, but it's just my own attitude towards this.
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2007-09-05, 16:09 | Link #8933 | |||
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2007-09-05, 16:25 | Link #8934 |
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Different strokes see me I just don’t like time travel and such as a plot element all that much, often comes off as either corny or as a “deux ex machine” for some problem. So for me past-present-future works fine since I don’t intend to be messing with space time in any serious way to begin with. All I’m interested in is explaining away the few instances of time travel that happen in various universes before my story begins and preventing it’s large scale use in the future. I’m really not interested in a “War that spans time” or anything.
I find some theoretical physics interesting (my sister is majoring in physics) and intriguing, but when writing I prefer the KISS principle. I really don’t want to have people diving for Wiki’s to try and figure out how the hell space time works in my universe. People get past-present-future, and it works in my setting so I’m not going to for any more grandiose then that. Anyway I got to get to class (Substance Abuse tonight fun, fun) so I'll see you all later. |
2007-09-05, 17:05 | Link #8935 |
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@Tk: I haven't commented on your typing...since it's pretty massive, I'll keep it brief. Nevertheless, it is intriguing...and I see you're willing to apply Stargate principles to Nanoha, hm? Sounds intriguing...though I wonder how the Bureau will go about decimating hostile planets...Arc-en-Ciel rain? You're not particularly lenient towards the whole time travel aspect, however...
And, I decided to write up a short piece to continue Keroko's in a way. Spoiler for Segment:
Heh, shortest work I've ever written so far. Apologies, Keroko, if you had other plans...I just had to conjure up a continuation of that fine work of yours. |
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2007-09-05, 19:25 | Link #8939 | ||
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Glad you like his name, I've always felt like anytime someone is named Guy in an anime he's doomed to be a secondary character who supports the protagonist, and perhaps takes a bullet/sword for him. So I'm setting out to change that with a Guy who's a little less "self-sacrificing support character" a little more "maniacally overconfident protagonist." And he has an age, I just plan on writing starting from the beginning, and if his profile started there it'd be sorta boring. Device: None Abilities: Worthless Specialization: Doesn't like working etc, would be a bit of a letdown don't you think. This way everyone can see what direction I plan on taking him, but still leave enough leeway to write in new stuff as it comes up. Well that bit came from an idea I had when they were discussing the different types of barriers(hey, a perfect excuse to go watch a bunch of Nanoha, it's for Research!) It seemed to me that every time someone used a barrier it was to block an incoming attack, so what would happen if you angled it slightly and instead tried to deflect it. Then I got to thinking, can't they shape barriers, why not use cone shaped ones to deflect beam attacks around yourself, or use them like mirrors to ricochet long range attacks back at an enemy. Seems they've got a lot of uses to me, some of them perhaps requiring a lot of extra energy, some just requiring a little basic geometry. Quote:
As for all this discussion about multiverses and other such shenanigan's, I prefer to think of it as a bunch of smaller alternate universes that all follow the same temporal path, that way you don't get into any trouble with time travel paradoxes and dimensional paradoxes both running amok making everything impossible to understand. Though to get technical, I'm pretty sure time is constant throughout all universes, since it's for the most part arbitrary, the difference would be in the direction that it seems to flow. Ours goes from low entropy to high (egg is whole, egg is dropped on floor, egg is now shattered into a random assortment of pieces), but others could have no flow or one that goes in some other direction. But enough armchair physics, I'll leave those things to the professionals, they all probably like doing calculus, unlike me. Moving on, I've got more of Entropy's abilities written up, and is it just me or is the hardest part coming up with names that don't sound goofy as hell. Spoiler for Entropy: Abilities:
And to tie it all off, I've gotten started on some actual writing, just to make sure I can still form coherent thoughts and write dialog. Here's hoping. Spoiler for Introductions::
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