Medaka Box [Manga]

[Sixth]

I wonder, what would be Zenkichi and everyone's reaction if Medaka commit suicide in front of him because she is unable to accept the fact that she lost, or feel that she is not longer needed by the world.

Since Zenkichi's goal is to defeat Medaka, will he accepts the outcome?

I would like to see Zenkichi blaming himself if that really happens, and I really want to see it..although I know it is just a wishful thinking.

[The Butcher]

Just go done with the fight when Zenkichi fought the serial killer who really isn't one.

Look like Akune will be up next to fight.

Not as good as Enforcer's arc, but it is alright.

[Tyabann]

Well, spoilers are floating around now. Seems that

Spoiler:

it isn't ending after all. Not like I'm happy with the direction it seems to be going in, though.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Well, spoilers are floating around now. Seems that

Spoiler:

it isn't ending after all. Not like I'm happy with the direction it seems to be going in, though.

Not surprising. What is that direction?

Spoiler for spoiler:

sooo predictable, he may be a troll but those publishers have power, he's not an idiot you don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[Tyabann]

This is completely unconfirmed, but

Spoiler:

Medaka prevents Ajimu from killing herself, and (presumably) pulls that main character brainwashing/tomodachi ni narimashou trick that Ajimu has been trying to avoid this whole time.

Medaka would make a great antagonist, I've gotta say. Also,

Spoiler:

Medaka kisses Zenkichi.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Full spoiler for 140 if anyone can be bothered to translate. (unconfirmed)

Spoiler for spoiler:

めだかボックス ネタバレ 第140箱
めだかボックスネタバレ。第140話。
最終決着…？

追記:間違えて嘘バレを掲載してしまっていたので本バレに修正
お詫びして訂正いたします。
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宇宙が誕生してから三兆(中略)年
地球が誕生してから(中略)年
生命と呼べるものの誕生から(中略)年
恐竜の滅亡を見て人類が誕生してから(中略)年
同属と呼べるものと出合ってから１５０年ほどだ(背景に左手で抜刀して直立した西洋剣士)
期待できる者の出会ったのは２年前、でも、彼は期待はずれだった(背景、髪の短い球磨川)
そして、めだかちゃんと出会ってから２年、いや、今日でちょうど三年目、つまり・・・
安心院「３兆(中略)年２８７日、待ったわけだ」
(背景カラーページ、『ピストル』のジェスチャーをした左手をめだかが右手で左斜め上にそらして いる

、めだかの右足は飛び膝蹴りをしたように曲げられていて、左足は地面を蹴るように右斜め下に伸 ばさ

れている、服は全部ぼろぼろ)
安心院「めだかファントム通常版、カラーに冴える色だね(赤？)」
めだか「貴様という奴は、やっぱり！」
会場、安心院の自殺をめだかが止めたと騒然。
めだか「貴様の意図は分かった、が、自殺するのは想定していなかった！！」
安心院「何言っているんだい、ラスボスは物語の終盤で自殺するものだろ、燃え尽き症候群という 奴だ

よ」
めだか「貴様のかかっている病気はそんなのではない、貴様の病名は・・・シミュレーテッドリア リテ

ィだ！！」
唐突に観客席のバミーが語りだす。
バミー「別名シミュレーション仮説、自分が仮想の人物ではないかと仮定し続ける症候群だ、よく 、素

敵な男女の出会いを『漫画みたい』と評したり、面白いスポーツの試合を『ドラマティックだ』、 きれ

いな女性を『人形みたい』と言う」
バミー「そんな作り話的な表現を自己に当てはめて、自身以外の人間は全てノンプレイヤーキャラ クタ

ーであるとし、自身も誰かが操っているだけの存在だと仮定し続け、それを否定するかのように行 動を

行う」
バミー「まあ、大半の人間は、現実の不合理に気づき、自身が物語の中の人物で無いと気づくけど ね」
(他の例えとしては、『がんばってもレベルが上がらない』→『現実はドラクエじゃなくて現実だと 気づ

く』とか)
めだかは続ける。
もっと早く気づくべきだと。
ヒントは沢山出ていたと。
候補生のオリエンテーションが全て『作られたゲーム』が題材になっていること。
いや、候補生そのものが作られすぎた存在であること。
ゲーム好きのゲーム脳の喜々津、性格を作っている財部、仮想の世界に住んでいる与次郎、そのま ま仮

想人格な希望が丘、設定過多の鰐塚、いずれも「作り物」という符合が一致する。
一京のスキルを持つ不老の存在である安心院はしミュレーテッドリアリティにかかり、常に不可能 なこ

とをしようとしたが、その自身の能力のせいで、全て成功してしまった。
そして、行きついた先が・・・、フラスコ計画、絶対に不可能である『完璧な人間を作る計画』、 これ

に失敗することで現実は作り物で無いと確認したかったのだ、と。

驚く十三組一同。
転校自体安心院の妄想かと驚くマイナス十三組の蝶ヶ崎と志布志。
観客「ふざけんじゃねー安心院、現実が漫画のはずねーだろ！！」(背景にでかく『轟』の文字)
安心院「おいおい、ちゃんと親しみを込めて安心院さんと呼ぶように・・・、なーんて、どうでも いい

連中から言われても何も思わないね」
安心院はめだかと観衆に語る。
現実は全て紙とインクで書かれた出来事だと。
どんな苦難も起承転結でしか無かったと。
むしろ、生きているうちにどんどんスキルが増えていったと。
そして、まさかのフラスコ計画の成功、これで、現実は誰かの作った物語でしかないと確認した。
だから死ぬことにしたと。
生きてないなら死んだほうがましだと。
が、めだかは劇昂した。
成功の見込みの無いフラスコ計画に善吉を利用したことを。
「善吉が許しても私は許さない」と。
めだか「私の善吉をそんな計画に巻き込むな！！」
そして、めだか、安心院さんの顔面をぶん殴る。
一同、唖然。
めだか「何が一京分のスキルだ、何が不老だ、貴様なんぞ餓鬼だ、私と一緒の餓鬼でしかない」
めだか「私も何もかも失って一からやり直さねばならないが、だから、貴様もやり直せ」
めだか、扇に筆で『一年十三組　安心院なじみ』と書く。
めだか「自殺などさせぬ、徹底的に邪魔してやるから覚悟しろ！！」
安心院の右手の甲に刺さっていたネジがさらさら消滅開始。
めだか「世界は平凡か？」
めだか「未来は退屈か？」
めだか「現実は適当か？」
めだか「それでも、生きることは劇的だ！」(背景に『凛』の文字とめだかのアップ)
安心院の最後のネジが消滅したが、右手の刺さっていた手の甲表面に汚れみたいな跡が付いている 。
安心院、死ねないことに大喜びしたのか、両手を広げて両の目から涙をあふれんばかりに流す。
安心院「うまくいかないな、まるで週刊連載のようだ」
的な台詞が最後の台詞。
善吉「(球磨川によると、最後のネジが外れたのは『必要無くなったから外れた。本人が必要だから刺さったま まになっていた』とのこと)」
めだか「善吉、いい加減受け取ってもらえないのか、いつまで私をさらし者にするつもりだ」
めだか、そう言って、腕章を善吉に差し出す。
めだか「それと、おまけだ」
めだか、観客席を背景に善吉の唇にキス、背景に驚いておののく人あり。
めだか「褒美(？)だ、惚れ直したぞ」
善吉「(安心院の件とか、いろいろ解決していく問題はあるが、それは俺がやらなきゃならないこ とだ)

」
善吉｢(俺たちの青春は、まだまだ続く)｣



次回、新章突入、センターカラー！！

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

This is completely unconfirmed, but

Spoiler:

Medaka prevents Ajimu from killing herself, and (presumably) pulls that main character brainwashing/tomodachi ni narimashou trick that Ajimu has been trying to avoid this whole time.

Medaka would make a great antagonist, I've gotta say. Also,

Spoiler:

Medaka kisses Zenkichi.

Thx

Spoiler for spoiler:

An interesting turn of events though I don't really understand how this leads into a new arc. Will Medaka be a new antagonist or will it be something else entirely. Seems like Zenkichi got what he wanted out of this, just according to Keikaku (Keikaku means plan).


It's actually pretty hilarious if it's true, a magnificent amount of unconscious trolling. He essentially "betrayed" her switched sides, attempted a coup d'tat, succeeded in said coup d'tat brining her to her absolute pits while stealing her presidency and got her kiss and (seeming love) after it. It's the sort of thing that makes you think "god am I just too awesome, perhaps this amount of awesomeness should be illegal"

[Sol Falling]

Jesus christ, those spoilers are huge. I guess these days "spoilers" come in the form of "a transcript for an entire chapter".

Spoiler for 140:

Welp it hasn't ended, as people should've known. The Ajimu conflict has been wrapped up quicker than I would've thought, though, provided that these spoilers are true. However, just as Kumagawa's defeat still left open a lot of questions about his character (middle school, his original personality, how he sealed Ajimu, etc.) I don't expect this to be the end of Ajimu-related plot development either.

I'm not enthusiastic about Zenkichi x Medaka but I'll live with it for the moment, like I've had to do a couple times throughout this series. In the end, though, I'm still gunning for my Kumagawa x Medaka pairing.

In any case, although I'm disappointed Medaka is no longer Student Council President, I suppose we can now move onto the next phase of the story. Although this is just a guess, under the structure I've spoken of before (Medaka Box as a story about Medaka becoming human, progressing through her shells of Saint --> Beast/Monster --> Human), I'd say that for the immediate future one source of conflict Nishio could use for further development will eventually be the darkness within Medaka herself.

[Homura7]

It's time to perform the following score.

Spoiler for spoiler:

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by Sol Falling

Jesus christ, those spoilers are huge. I guess these days "spoilers" come in the form of "a transcript for an entire chapter".

Spoiler for 140:

Welp it hasn't ended, as people should've known. The Ajimu conflict has been wrapped up quicker than I would've thought, though, provided that these spoilers are true. However, just as Kumagawa's defeat still left open a lot of questions about his character (middle school, his original personality, how he sealed Ajimu, etc.) I don't expect this to be the end of Ajimu-related plot development either.

I'm not enthusiastic about Zenkichi x Medaka but I'll live with it for the moment, like I've had to do a couple times throughout this series. In the end, though, I'm still gunning for my Kumagawa x Medaka pairing.

In any case, although I'm disappointed Medaka is no longer Student Council President, I suppose we can now move onto the next phase of the story. Although this is just a guess, under the structure I've spoken of before (Medaka Box as a story about Medaka becoming human, progressing through her shells of Saint --> Beast/Monster --> Human), I'd say that for the immediate future one source of conflict Nishio could use for further development will eventually be the darkness within Medaka herself.

Spoiler for spoiler:

I'd find that honestly exceptionally boring, wasn't this whole arc just that, with the hinting of Medaka becoming monster and the issue with her ideals etc. Doing that would simply be a retread with a slightly different slant. Medaka either still being the "enemy" or still havng "problems", It's best off being something entirely different that may or may not in fact focus on Medaka all that much.

[Tyabann]

Yeah, this arc was the most bored I've been reading Medaka Box since the Suggestion Box arc. That doesn't bode well for future chapters.

[Westlo]

Wow! This is continuing? I for one am shocked! Didn't see that coming, oh Nisio you troll, fool me once shame on me, fool me twice shame on you!

Originally Posted by Cruor

Nisio is more infamous for hyping people up and then it turns out to have just been a cocktease.

Exactly, and it should've been obvious even just reading this manga by itself and having no other exposure to his works. And if wasn't before this chapter it should be by now, also as if Jump where going to put up the money for an anime adaption and than let the manga end right before it, lmao.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Yeah, this arc was the most bored I've been reading Medaka Box since the Suggestion Box arc. That doesn't bode well for future chapters.

I would say that everything since the Non-Equals arc has been the "Nisemonogatari" of Medaka Box but that would mean that the start was better... and it wasn't. Ajimu was a total letdown (lol @ who resolves that, trolling on multiple levels is happening) and even the reliably entertaining Kumagawa wasn't up to his usual standards apart from the Munakata fight.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

I didn't mind it that much it had some interesting points though the treasure arc was boring as fuck and Nisio spent too much time trolling than he did did progressing a decent plot. Also the rom-com part was a bit boring though though the climax was reasonably satisfying in comparison practically all Medaka arcs ignoring the trolling of Aijimu at the end since there was a reasonable climax with significant character development, without Medaka's overpoweredness trolling the tension.

At least I can see a point and a purpose to this climax (again ignoring the Aijimu part of this chapter) when I could see little point to Kumagawa's fight or lightning dudes fight other than Medaka's overpowered can't defeat her, with some random and nonsensical character development on the villains part. At least it wasn't cliche to the extreme shounen crap that most arcs end with (though Aijimu seems to get that....).

[DawnEmperor]

Oddly enough, I do enjoy how the arc has built itself up. It jumped around a bit(didn't see much point to the card game). We got to see more about the motivations of the characters.

I have a feeling that Nisio will inevitable leave some things unresolved, so I won't get my hopes up( too much at least).

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Seems we still don't find what the hell is up with Hanten, which I'm honestly quite annoyed by. Really most of middle school crap and Hanten etc should have been done and concluded by this arc. With the next arc being a fresh new restart. I can't really see precisely why that shit would be relevant in future arcs unless some other villain is convultedly introduced to be a part of it.

Practically all major players have gone through sufficient character developments such that those events really shouldn't have a major effect on them should their memories be revealed. Really this arc would have been the ideal time to reveal them in the height of the chaos. Especially since the primary focus of those events Aijimu was the main villain. Now those events seem worthless in comparison to whatever's going to be the current plot unless something is convultedly introduced.

[Odd]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

Seems we still don't find what the hell is up with Hanten, which I'm honestly quite annoyed by. Really most of middle school crap and Hanten etc should have been done and concluded by this arc. With the next arc being a fresh new restart. I can't really see precisely why that shit would be relevant in future arcs unless some other villain is convultedly introduced to be a part of it.

Why? Hanten was never really the main focus of this arc, so I don't see why there's a problem.
It's actually similar to how we got a light introduction of Ajimu during the minus arc; a minor.

Now, regarding the "middle school crap" — it's a subject we know next to nothing about, but can still expect to need certain circumstances (some of which probably happened at the end of this arc) to occur for them to be revealed i.e. Medaka's changed mindset, whatever Ajimu happens to say in chapter 140, the understanding of "Devil Style", Zenkichi's new labelling as a "Zero", etc.

And it still will be relevant, as there never really has been a "fresh new restart" in any of the Medaka Box arcs; they're usually based around picking up on something spoken about in the previous arc and then expanded on thus leading to something else.

Practically all major players have gone through sufficient character developments such that those events really shouldn't have a major effect on them should their memories be revealed. Really this arc would have been the ideal time to reveal them in the height of the chaos. Especially since the primary focus of those events Aijimu was the main villain. Now those events seem worthless in comparison to whatever's going to be the current plot unless something is convultedly introduced.

There wasn't any serious action from Ajimu this arc to warrant that their memories should be revealed, nor to be considered the "main villain". She barely done anything this arc which wasn't to help Zenkichi, who was the main focus of this arc. This whole "true flask plan" was just a plot device used to allow him to grow, but could still be used to explain the enigma which is "Ajimu Najimi" in this upcoming arc.

Also, I wouldn't really consider those memories to be now "worthless" as we still don't know what Kumagawa has planned in order to defeat Ajimu and Hanten, or even why?

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by Odd

Why? Hanten was never really the main focus of this arc, so I don't see why there's a problem.
It's actually similar to how we got a light introduction of Ajimu during the minus arc; a minor.

Now, regarding the "middle school crap" — it's a subject we know next to nothing about, but can still expect to need certain circumstances (some of which probably happened at the end of this arc) to occur for them to be revealed i.e. Medaka's changed mindset, whatever Ajimu happens to say in chapter 140, the understanding of "Devil Style", Zenkichi's new labelling as a "Zero", etc.

And it still will be relevant, as there never really has been a "fresh new restart" in any of the Medaka Box arcs; they're usually based around picking up on something spoken about in the previous arc and then expanded on thus leading to something else.



There wasn't any serious action from Ajimu this arc to warrant that their memories should be revealed, nor to be considered the "main villain". She barely done anything this arc which wasn't to help Zenkichi, who was the main focus of this arc. This whole "true flask plan" was just a plot device used to allow him to grow, but could still be used to explain the enigma which is "Ajimu Najimi" in this upcoming arc.

Also, I wouldn't really consider those memories to be now "worthless" as we still don't know what Kumagawa has planned in order to defeat Ajimu and Hanten, or even why?

Yeah but unless Aijimu is going to prolong her position as "antagonist" said importance decreases unless a new related player is introduced at the last minute. She was the "villain" until the end where it was revealed she really wasn't but she was the primary antagonist in this arc behind Zenkichi. Said antagonists arc being the perfect place to have the middle school stuff revealed since she was actually involved.

The importance of that sort of stuff decreases if the it's released in an arc where the primary antagonist of the arc has nothing to do with said flashback which woud mean for maximum relevant importance an arc where either Medaka(again), Aijimu(again), Kumagawa(again) or Zenkichi(again), are the primary antagonists. Otherwise it's relegated to plot convient powerup or character development material that has little to do with he arc aside from being a convient plot device.

There has never been a fresh start but this is pretty much it. Medaka's no longer president Zenkichi now is, Medaka's goal is no longer to be of help to others meaning the entire story dynamic has completely changed.

I just find little point in what would essentially be repeating an arc just to go over stuff that should have been gone over in this arc.

[Proto]

OMG everyone here is so picky. (except those who are not)

As usual, I for one am entertained.

[[HearT]]

Originally Posted by Proto

OMG everyone here is so picky. (except those who are not)

very insightful





I'm very curious as to what the next arc will be about :3 If there's a new villain, then hopefully they'll do more than Ajimu did~


And I blame Zenkichi and his lame ability for making this arc not as awesome as it could have been! lol

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by [HearT]

very insightful





I'm very curious as to what the next arc will be about :3 If there's a new villain, then hopefully they'll do more than Ajimu did~


And I blame Zenkichi and his lame ability for making this arc not as awesome as it could have been! lol

For him it's a pretty awesome ability he very easily could have lost without it due to those interventions. But really it's the weakness of the author if he can't create an interesting story without the use of convient coincidences.

[[HearT]]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

For him it's a pretty awesome ability he very easily could have lost without it due to those interventions. But really it's the weakness of the author if he can't create an interesting story without the use of convient coincidences.

Then I blame the author for giving Zenkichi that ability and making that arc not as awesome as it could have been~ ：P