Guilty Crown - General Discussion

[Skyfall]

Alright, this is starting to get out of hand. While I can (pretend to) see why people might want to draw some parallels to Code Geass, the sheer volume of said comparisons is beginning to drown out any actual discussion about the show (besides being a nest of spoilers regarding Code Geass, which no one seems to care about marking). Please try to tone it down with the Geass talk, this thread is for discussing Guilty Crown after all, not doing a side-by-side comparison between it and other works which might share a similar nature. If you absolutely must indulge in such comparisons, at least hide them behind spoiler tags so that people who want to actually discuss about GC don't have to wade through hordes of semi-related posts to do so. Thank you.

[Kaoru Chujo]

I don't think we are giving enough credit to Inori's role as goddess. When she speaks to Shuu in the warehouse, it is as if she is crazy, but has some mysterious knowledge. Her costume sets her apart from everyone else as being a fairy or goddess of some kind. There is much more there than just "singing doormat" (great phrase, felix). She is the embodiment of feminine wisdom, as well as of feminine weakness (although she showed herself plenty strong in running from the bad guys, and in refusing to talk when they caught her). Clearly we are going to learn more about her character in this new school setting. I'll withhold judgment until I know more of what she's like. I think Kayano Ai's voice is so far just nailing the magical being side of her nature.

Spoiler for Code Geass comparisons:

There are lots of similarities between these two shows, particularly in setting and overall situation, but the characters differ despite their similarities. Shuu is certainly not Suzaku. Gai is a bit like Lelouche -- determined, capable and manipulative -- but without (as far as we know) the royal background, and without any apparent doubts. Inori is like CC in being the magical woman, sexy and wise, but also unlike, since she is not the knowledgeable and powerful outsider CC is.

The English (originally French) word "louche" means shady or disreputable. Always seemed appropriate to me for Lelouche in CG. He was one of the problems with that show for me, along with the long string of complex and unlikely events.

[wm4]

I had uploaded two Firefox themes:
http://tinyurl.com/3og5a2j
A basic one.

http://tinyurl.com/3n5zf2d

It is far from good, but I don't bother go too deep with it.
And I know it is quite misleading. At least I had attempted to make it obvious that
it is not the official interpretation. Looking like I had made a somewhat high level of troll.

[creb]

Originally Posted by Skyfall

Alright, this is starting to get out of hand. While I can (pretend to) see why people might want to draw some parallels to Code Geass, the sheer volume of said comparisons is beginning to drown out any actual discussion about the show (besides being a nest of spoilers regarding Code Geass, which no one seems to care about marking). Please try to tone it down with the Geass talk, this thread is for discussing Guilty Crown after all, not doing a side-by-side comparison between it and other works which might share a similar nature. If you absolutely must indulge in such comparisons, at least hide them behind spoiler tags so that people who want to actually discuss about GC don't have to wade through hordes of semi-related posts to do so. Thank you.

Do we not have enough posts to warrant a sub-forum yet? Then you could make a thread titled "GC a CG rip-off?" and blast any post that speaks on this subject into that thread!

[Haak]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Her costume sets her apart from everyone else as being a fairy or goddess of some kind.

I considered it more to symbolise a free and exotic bird that was previously caged. Would go the feathers in her opening song and the sound of wings when she ate Shu's lunch.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by Haak

I considered it more to symbolise a free and exotic bird that was previously caged. Would go the feathers in her opening song and the sound of wings when she ate Shu's lunch.

Good point. Let's see if this metaphor remains fruitful as we go on. But feathers are also associated with gods and spirits in Japanese mythology, aren't they? Like the "feather mantle" of the celestial spirit who comes to earth in the Noh play Hagoromo. A fisherman finds her cloak of feathers hanging on a tree and takes it, agreeing to give it back only if she performs her heavenly dance for him.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

I don't think we are giving enough credit to Inori's role as goddess. When she speaks to Shuu in the warehouse, it is as if she is crazy, but has some mysterious knowledge. Her costume sets her apart from everyone else as being a fairy or goddess of some kind. There is much more there than just "singing doormat" (great phrase, felix). She is the embodiment of feminine wisdom, as well as of feminine weakness (although she showed herself plenty strong in running from the bad guys, and in refusing to talk when they caught her). Clearly we are going to learn more about her character in this new school setting. I'll withhold judgment until I know more of what she's like. I think Kayano Ai's voice is so far just nailing the magical being side of her nature.

Spoiler for Code Geass comparisons:

There are lots of similarities between these two shows, particularly in setting and overall situation, but the characters differ despite their similarities. Shuu is certainly not Suzaku. Gai is a bit like Lelouche -- determined, capable and manipulative -- but without (as far as we know) the royal background, and without any apparent doubts. Inori is like CC in being the magical woman, sexy and wise, but also unlike, since she is not the knowledgeable and powerful outsider CC is.

The English (originally French) word "louche" means shady or disreputable. Always seemed appropriate to me for Lelouche in CG. He was one of the problems with that show for me, along with the long string of complex and unlikely events.

I don't know, to me it kind of sounds more like you are describing a classic Gundam female lead like Lalah Sune or Shakti Kareen. Those characters had a quiet yet noble and strong gravitas to them and sort of exuded a warmth of character and intent and not to mention wisdom and compassion beyond their years. I don't have any idea what Inori's game is yet and I sense no hidden wisdom beneath the surface other than perhaps during a brief bit of her portrayal in the warehouse in the first episode where it almost looked for a second like she knew how to fight and could be cunning. Since then though she's kind of turned into a meek doll of a character that just begs for Gai and Shu's approval and looks like she's being put on display for the benefit of the audience. There's still time to sort out her character, but right now I'm not sensing a stable or clear one.

As it stands I'm not sure there's anything more to Inori's appearance other than to look exotic and attractive after the second episodes portrayal. I kind of hope to see first episode Inori back a little next episode......the one before the sword pulling scene that looked like she was capable of looking after herself and pulling off sudden acrobatic feats (though she did showcase the chauvinistic tendencies of Yoshino in immediately giving up after being lightly grabbed by her twig of an arm) and would have her robot take a guy like Shu out for spying on her. As others have said though I'm not sure the whole school transfer idea bodes well for her character.

If one were to equate goddess with being a sexy idol type though than yeah I tend to agree. This character is destined for lots of fan art.

[Morisato]

Why did Shu take the Void Genome vial out of the robot and put it in his breast pocket? And why didn't he give it back to Gai right away?

[ookamigirl]

So Shu had to join the cause for a short time whether he liked it or not.. but at least he got to see what kind of monsters the Undertaker is up against.
Getting back to everyday life will never be the same again.
Nice action parts too.

[SoFarGone]

So where did Shuu pull that gun out from?

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by creb

Do we not have enough posts to warrant a sub-forum yet? Then you could make a thread titled "GC a CG rip-off?" and blast any post that speaks on this subject into that thread!

the post did go past 1000 but lacks fan art and still full of CG and GC comparison. We need more discussion on the said subject than the off topic comparison

If we look at it in more symbolic way for Inori's dress..... I can't see anything aside from fan service. The more thing to talk about is back in episode one when they show the images in Shuu's memory concerning when he acquired the the kings power Like who was the 2 children in the memory who looks like Inori and Gai but the same time if that's true then the thing that happen to the girl being engulf in crystal doesn't explain why she's still alive or it can be removed. Though I think that the girl before might be Inori but is that memory of Shuu? or memory of Inori?

Inori hasn't much character yet to talk more about her or even development. All she do was being a submissive underling of Gai and a tool for Shuu. She's like she doesn't have any will of her own. Plus Gai was harsher to her than Ayane which both did mistakes on their own. Favoritism? or maybe he knew how to handle his own subordinates.

[Haak]

Originally Posted by SoFarGone

So where did Shuu pull that gun out from?

From that psycho mecha soldier.

Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

(though she did showcase the chauvinistic tendencies of Yoshino in immediately giving up after being lightly grabbed by her twig of an arm)

To be fair she did have the butt of a rifle rammed into a her stomach pretty hard.

[AzureWrath]

I think we are in need of pics.

[tsunade666]

^any fan art for Tsugumi and Ayane? or the girl classmate of Shuu which I don't remember her name. Currently she is my favorite.

[DummyInc]

Originally Posted by felix

Like this?

yup thats right, it would be better if its in 1920 x 1200, thanks

[AzureWrath]

Ummmm not much on pixiv in my searches.

Spoiler for pics:

[creb]

Originally Posted by AzureWrath

I think we are in need of pics.

Spoiler for What really happened...:

From Tumblr

Spoiler for Interview with Daryl:

From Tumblr

Spoiler for Inori:

http://drawr.net/yukka_310

Spoiler for For the pervs:

From Tumblr

[Dextro]

So quick question: any idea when the full ED song comes out? I mean that's some seriously sweet voice there, made my jaw fall to the floor the moment I first heard it.

[.:Jason:.]

Originally Posted by Dextro

So quick question: any idea when the full ED song comes out? I mean that's some seriously sweet voice there, made my jaw fall to the floor the moment I first heard it.

Same, only more for the OP than the ED.

[Reckoner]

Originally Posted by Last Sinner

I guess this show just isn't for me. For those continuing - good luck. I hope you enjoy this show. But I have seen enough to know the character types and style of this show just doesn't sit well with me at all. I'm better off not continuing.

Peace.

Most of your complaints are a bit valid, but did you really find nothing good about this show?

Though I'd disagree with your assertions about the animation looking poor in episode 2. Also, a story doesn't have to immediately expand and explore its setting at the VERY start, you could be a little more patient on that front.