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2012-09-26, 07:39 | Link #23 | |
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2012-09-26, 08:08 | Link #24 | |
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Considering the fact obitos hair grew quite a bit within this chapter, but we saw no other interaction with madara...then madara is in some sort of stasis?
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2012-09-26, 08:12 | Link #25 |
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So is Madara already in control of the 4th Mizukage at this point? Since it seems it's the Mist ninja who are going to kill Rin. Fairly well constructed plan of Madara to convert Obito. The Zetsu's already planted the seed of being able to revive the dead so Obito will get on board to bring Rin back. Things are falling into place.
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2012-09-26, 08:38 | Link #26 | |
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2012-09-26, 09:28 | Link #28 |
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there's still much more that needs to be explained about even revelations in this chapter. for one, obito merging with spiral zetsu doesn't totally add up because the tobi we have known takes off the spiral mask like an ordinary mask with a strap. it's not part of his body or even part of the zetsu body at that point. i could be wrong, but it looks like just a mask.
also, it does seem that obito grew his hair long enough to resemble the tobi that kisame and itachi met, but then what is the reason for him cutting it short again when he was still impersonating madara? |
2012-09-26, 09:54 | Link #29 | |
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Obito now maybe has a 3rd eye lol. I think the mask also serves for battle purpose and protection as well as hiding himself so he can masquerade as Madara. Whatever the case, he CAN'T BE SEEN by Kakashi and Rin now, it would be too complicated and a huge plothole since Kakashi would've recognized Tobi.. |
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2012-09-26, 09:59 | Link #30 | |
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Also, why can't Obito cut his hair? Even ignoring the multiple Zetsus hanging around (that could all cut his hair for him), isn't there something a chuunin-level shinobi can do about scruffy hair? This is especially weird since Obito was probably training the entire time, in which case having long hair is generally counterproductive...(This was a minor quibble at best.) Additionally, just how long has Obito been underground that his hair has grown so long? It would take me well over a year for my hair to grow as much as Obito's did... Last edited by james0246; 2012-09-26 at 10:17. |
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2012-09-26, 11:28 | Link #32 |
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Saying two years isn't enough time to take on Minato doesn't really seem to count for anything, seeing as in two years Sasuke somehow fought against like all the Kages at once. So, regardless, worse things have happened.
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2012-09-26, 12:40 | Link #34 | |
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As for his long hair, I'm thinking that's a device to show a significant time has passed while being in Madaras care...I continue to believe that mizukage Madara (and ultimately the one that met kisamae) was the real one madara only because the eye we are shown during that chapter is a left one...obito is currently missing his. I'm not sure about the one that met itachi...
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2012-09-26, 13:44 | Link #35 |
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Wow, somehow this is all coming together and making sense in a way. One thing bothers me though. More than anything else. They have the technology for ANDROIDS, but they don't have guns or cars? At least it explains the "recording" ability.
Now that you mention the meeting with Itachi, wasn't that in a forested area with a similar rock cave to the one that collapsed on Obito? Last edited by Suika-Esper; 2012-09-26 at 13:57. |
2012-09-26, 13:49 | Link #36 |
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This chapter suggests that Zetsu is an artificial creation, but how could someone like Madara create him? Madara had the plan of taking some cells from the 1st hokage while fighting, but it's hard to believe that he could do it alone. First, he was mortally wounded, otherwise the 1st hokage and the entire world would not believe that he died in the VotE, so how did he survive and hide (ninja also take the dead body to prevent secrets and sharingan eyes of being stolen). Second, he is not the scientist type who takes some cells and then grows them in some underground laboratory (like Dr.Gero in DBZ) and then finds a way to create life support and androids out of a few stolen cells. Black Zetsu might be the answer. If the bodies of these androids are based on the 1st hokage's cells then it can be that their minds were created by Madara's genjutsu, and in that case if Obito fused his body with an android that could also result in some level of mind fusion, which leads to Tobi's messed up personality that carries Madara's will layered over Obito's. This would also mean that if the upper Madara-layer is broken then Obito's original personality may break out and turn against Madara. But Kakashi is at his limit, it's difficult to imagine how he could break down Tobi's mind in a fight.
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2012-09-26, 15:26 | Link #39 |
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It could explain the shift from personalities from Tobi is a good boy to Uchiha Madara, the Tobi is a good boy bit was Obito allowing "Tobi" to move around and speak, then when he became "Madara" it was Obito moving and speaking.
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