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Archon_Wing · 2012-02-22, 02:20

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

It would actually be helpful if BRS wasn't in the noitaminA timeslot. This series might have stood on its own that way.

It's in noitaminA? Oh man, what's with them putting such crap shows to fill up the space? You see good stuff like Usagi Drop, and then you see shit like Guilty Crown and No.6. Well, no.6 wasn't utterly useless, but neither of those two have the maturity compared to a lot of shows in this slot.

And then there's Black Rock Shooter; yea, it'd be so much better if it were a "regular" 26 episode series, or even 13.

I'm only watching this because BRS looks sexy. True Story. And her VA

djmaca · 2012-02-22, 02:29

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Blame Thermae Romae for that, just a reminder. (It's supposed to be much more famous than most 4-koma manga series, and they got stuck in the noitaminA timeslot, causing the highly-feared BRS original series to suffer even more.)

It would actually be helpful if BRS wasn't in the noitaminA timeslot. This series might have stood on its own that way.

Why is everyone so critical about that time slot. It's just a freaking time slot.

Reckoner · 2012-02-22, 02:30

They really need to get trash like Guilty crown and BRS out of notamina time slot. This time slot used to stand for something.

Guido · 2012-02-22, 02:34

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Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

I'm only watching this because BRS looks sexy. True Story. And her VA

Yeah, and I add for the record BGS looks evil-ly sexy and devilish hot. Oh, the irony.

Marcus H. · 2012-02-22, 02:37

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Why is everyone so critical about that time slot. It's just a freaking time slot.

Thermae Romae and BRS share a cour schedule. That should not happen in an anime series. Because of the split, Thermae Romae gets 3 episodes and BRS gets 8; by the end of the season, fans of Thermae Romae long for more episodes while BRS suffers from an airing schedule so short that it's a challenge to create a decent story. Both lose, and BRS suffers 10 times more than Thermae Romae, since the latter already "won the third Manga Taishō and the Short Story Award at the 14th Tezuka Osamu Cultural Prize." [Source: Wikipedia]

Also, as far as I know, noitaminA stopped airing only shows which have production quality because they are not raking in enough cash.

djmaca · 2012-02-22, 02:40

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Originally Posted by Reckoner

They really need to get trash like Guilty crown and BRS out of notamina time slot. This time slot used to stand for something.

Well I can see it's SUPAH EFFECTIVE! /sarc

It's just a time slot people. What made it amazing is the anime, not the time itself.

Marcus H. · 2012-02-22, 02:55

^ It's not just a timeslot. It's actually a mission to expand the viewership of anime series.
However, it turns out that this fails (not enough sales, not high enough ratings), so they decided to go back to the conventional formula.

noitaminA is just a project that is doomed to fail eventually.

Quarkboy · 2012-02-22, 03:04

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Blame Thermae Romae for that, just a reminder. (It's supposed to be much more famous than most 4-koma manga series, and they got stuck in the noitaminA timeslot, causing the highly-feared BRS original series to suffer even more.)

It would actually be helpful if BRS wasn't in the noitaminA timeslot. This series might have stood on its own that way.

Thermae Romae was not the reason BRS was only 8 episodes. Lack of funding was. They didn't have enough budget for a full cour.

Thermae Romae was (relatively) cheaply produced to fill the gap (and I think was a pretty decent success for what it was).

Marcus H. · 2012-02-22, 03:10

This just stinks. A Flash-animated series that excelled against a full-blown animated series project.

dan-heron · 2012-02-22, 03:18

if it's about money, I think they made the right choice using BRS. For some reason, anything BRS related seems to make pretty good money

djmaca · 2012-02-22, 03:38

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

^ It's not just a timeslot. It's actually a mission to expand the viewership of anime series.
However, it turns out that this fails (not enough sales, not high enough ratings), so they decided to go back to the conventional formula.

noitaminA is just a project that is doomed to fail eventually.

Did they try broadcasting the timeslot world wide or something?

Animax/Crunchyroll > NoitaminA in that respect...

Marcus H. · 2012-02-22, 03:57

^ What? Isn't Noitamina only a Japanese timeslot in the first place?

djmaca · 2012-02-22, 04:02

^Well you can't expand the viewership of anime by just doing it inside Japan, that's why it will fail anyway even if it has all the funding it needs. There is an slightly tapped global market for anime that can be unlocked by unhindered, easy and cheap access to anime. Crunchyroll and Animax has yet to use it to full.

Quarkboy · 2012-02-22, 06:44

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Originally Posted by djmaca

^Well you can't expand the viewership of anime by just doing it inside Japan, that's why it will fail anyway even if it has all the funding it needs. There is an slightly tapped global market for anime that can be unlocked by unhindered, easy and cheap access to anime. Crunchyroll and Animax has yet to use it to full.

Um, the whole point was to expand the viewing audience within Japan by making shows that appeal to demographics outside the usual anime viewing audience.
(Namely older females).

It worked for a time and got good ratings, but the disc sales didn't match because only the otaku actually buy things. So lately the original concept has been partially abandoned.

However it's not completely gone... Take next season's noitamina shows: 1 is about fishing and the other is about jazz in the 1960s

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Malkuth · 2012-02-22, 09:10

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Originally Posted by Quarkboy

Um, the whole point was to expand the viewing audience within Japan by making shows that appeal to demographics outside the usual anime viewing audience.
(Namely older females).

The older females was the problem with noitaminA to begin with... it is extremely hard to appeal to one demographic group almost in the polar opposite of your well established cash cow

Plus what is the point of expanding before you can even establish a stable business model (most producers haven't), this is like all those neo-liberal nonsense that drive companies and countries to bankruptcy.

For BRS, things were dead simple, use the awesome character design, cash on the catchy music and have a mediocre excuse for a plot and we would all be happy... what we got is hysteric middle school lesbian wannabes, crappy CGI, and a lot of wasted potential... again

dan-heron · 2012-02-22, 09:16

you mean we got teenagers, awesome fights and, well not really awesome music. I miss the music from the ova.

Never cease to amuse me how people immediately jump to the "They are lesbians!" when it's just friendship... but what the hell, my inner yuri fanboy is happy with what the fandom cranks up because of that.

Malkuth · 2012-02-22, 09:24

Hehe, I don't but that's the general consensus

dan-heron · 2012-02-22, 09:33

good point. Huh, and several points that were general consensus about how the world of BRS worked turned out to be right.

So maybe the people behind the project were keeping an eye on the fans... which may end up bringing yuri later on...

sweet_kungfuman · 2012-02-22, 10:19

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Originally Posted by Quarkboy

Thermae Romae was not the reason BRS was only 8 episodes. Lack of funding was. They didn't have enough budget for a full cour.

Thermae Romae was (relatively) cheaply produced to fill the gap (and I think was a pretty decent success for what it was).

probably most of the fund goes to Guilty Crown?

Malkuth · 2012-02-22, 10:21

not for writing a decent script though

2012-02-22, 02:55	Link #667
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	^ It's not just a timeslot. It's actually a mission to expand the viewership of anime series. However, it turns out that this fails (not enough sales, not high enough ratings), so they decided to go back to the conventional formula. noitaminA is just a project that is doomed to fail eventually. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2012-02-22, 03:10	Link #669
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	This just stinks. A Flash-animated series that excelled against a full-blown animated series project. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2012-02-22, 03:57	Link #672
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	^ What? Isn't Noitamina only a Japanese timeslot in the first place? __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2012-02-22, 04:02	Link #673
djmaca My Girl ↓ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Update: Ortigas, Pasig, Phillippines Age: 36	^Well you can't expand the viewership of anime by just doing it inside Japan, that's why it will fail anyway even if it has all the funding it needs. There is an slightly tapped global market for anime that can be unlocked by unhindered, easy and cheap access to anime. Crunchyroll and Animax has yet to use it to full. __________________ I find the lack of old Darth Vader memes.... disturbing.

2012-02-22, 03:18	Link #670
dan-heron Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	if it's about money, I think they made the right choice using BRS. For some reason, anything BRS related seems to make pretty good money

2012-02-22, 09:16	Link #676
dan-heron Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	you mean we got teenagers, awesome fights and, well not really awesome music. I miss the music from the ova. Never cease to amuse me how people immediately jump to the "They are lesbians!" when it's just friendship... but what the hell, my inner yuri fanboy is happy with what the fandom cranks up because of that.

2012-02-22, 09:24	Link #677
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	Hehe, I don't but that's the general consensus

2012-02-22, 09:33	Link #678
dan-heron Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	good point. Huh, and several points that were general consensus about how the world of BRS worked turned out to be right. So maybe the people behind the project were keeping an eye on the fans... which may end up bringing yuri later on...

2012-02-22, 10:21	Link #680
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	not for writing a decent script though