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View Poll Results: Vote for your favorite Nanoha StrikerS character | |||
Fate T. Harlaown | 222 | 64.53% | |
Nanoha Takamachi | 164 | 47.67% | |
Hayate Yagami | 91 | 26.45% | |
Signum | 101 | 29.36% | |
Vita | 93 | 27.03% | |
Reinforce Zwei | 76 | 22.09% | |
Lutecia Alpino | 32 | 9.30% | |
Jail Scaglietti | 18 | 5.23% | |
Erio Mondial | 41 | 11.92% | |
Caro Ru Lushe | 44 | 12.79% | |
Teana Lanster | 85 | 24.71% | |
Subaru Nakajima | 87 | 25.29% | |
Ginga Nakajima | 53 | 15.41% | |
Vivio | 84 | 24.42% | |
Other | 46 | 13.37% | |
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2009-08-08, 05:41 | Link #181 | |
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As for the whole "Jail is programmed" argument, well maybe, but in that case you can't really punish anyone, since everyone's actions can be expressed as being ruled by his "programming" (a mix of nature genetics and nurture environment) and by the time he actually commits his crime he is arguably already "programmed" to do so. That's the theoretical argument of rehabiliative justice, which the TSAB does use generously. However, most people assume we actually have free will despite our upbringing and genetics (our programming). If you assume humans actually have free will, then Scarlietti MUST be responsible for what he's doing, despite his programming or whatever. There is of course, also the pragmatic "national security" argument |
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2009-08-08, 08:08 | Link #182 | |
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However, if they can't somehow fix Jail's programming, I can understand why he's not allowed to go free. |
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2009-08-08, 09:43 | Link #183 |
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Jail is kept in... well, jail... not due to guilt or innocence, but simply because they just don't know what he'd do if he was loose.
Jail may not be completely responsible for his own actions as he was nothing but a pawn of the brains, but that hardly makes him any less dangerous or fucking scary. Plus even though the brains created him, they didn't seem to restrict his free will at all, considering how he instructed Due to kill them--not to mention his entire plan was aimed squarely at destabilizing and subjugating the Midchildan TSAB system. Looking at things that way... Jail's actions are his own responsibility. He isn't just a puppet of the late but not lamented TSAB High Council--much of his actions were committed of his own volition. He's insane, definitely. Goes with the whole Mad Scientist territory. But insanity doesn't automatically equal innocence, even though a lot of liberal defense attorneys seem to think it does.
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2009-08-10, 15:50 | Link #184 | |
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2009-08-10, 15:53 | Link #185 | |
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2009-08-10, 17:54 | Link #186 | |
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2009-08-10, 18:30 | Link #187 | |
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Which of course opens the possibility that the 'greed' was molded into Jail's original by scientists of Al Hazard itself, and that this 'program' was merely copied along with the rest of Jail. Though this is relying on far to many maybe's. |
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2009-08-10, 18:51 | Link #190 | |
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Which, hmm, is probably what you just said << |
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2009-08-11, 05:29 | Link #200 |
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Were they? Last I checked, nobody raised any objection to letting Nanoha fight her. They didn't pull her back and say 'let's Arc her while we can!' but let the girl fight. They were even willing to gamble everything on a plan that could just as easily have doomed them all as it could have saved them.
Heck, icing the master was never even part of the plan. Arresting the master, yes. Icing the master, no. |
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