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germanturkey · 2009-06-11, 15:23

what the hell. thats not how its supposed to go down. i just finished Marbury Shore. i knew it was going to happen, but so freaking suddenly?! come on. the anime better not cut this out. they've already cut out tons of character development..

Solecs · 2009-06-11, 16:12

You have to admit though, the way it was done was just about perfect. I mean the character development up to it, the timing, everything was incredibly well done.

germanturkey · 2009-06-11, 16:22

everything was very well done, but wow, out of the blue.

cloner4000 · 2009-06-11, 16:30

There is one later that you can finish in 5 min that give you 50,000 EXP...it's definately doable, but then sometimes it's just easier and leveling up only really increase your aim/hp/evasion. it just increase your defense..that is research through upgrades so I don't think it's game breaking.

I was waiting for the medic to show up right up tilil Rosie start singing..than I go like...what that's impossible!!!!

Shiroth · 2009-06-11, 17:12

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Originally Posted by cloner4000

I was waiting for the medic to show up right up tilil Rosie start singing..than I go like...what that's impossible!!!!

You're forgetting one of the golden gaming rules. Whatever used to help a character when injured during gameplay won't work during a cutscene.

Tamad · 2009-06-11, 17:23

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Originally Posted by germanturkey

everything was very well done, but wow, out of the blue.

Thus I believed it showed a true and ugly side of war, and as much as I loved her, I feel it was necessary...

I still cry every night when I think about it though.

spawnofthejudge · 2009-06-11, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

You're forgetting one of the golden gaming rules. Whatever used to help a character when injured during gameplay won't work during a cutscene.

It's even codified.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for time lost for following a TVTropes link.

Shiroth · 2009-06-11, 18:25

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Originally Posted by spawnofthejudge

It's even codified.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for time lost for following a TVTropes link.

Yep this is what i'm talking about.

There are so many, and it's funny how it misses out one of the main events from Final Fantasy VII, which is very similar to the scene we're talking about from VC.

Tamad · 2009-06-11, 18:37

I... didn't even realize that they did call for a medic during the second shot, and didn't even try on the first. Makes me wonder why now...

kalbron · 2009-06-11, 18:43

Because the Plot called for it.

It's still a good story, but that still doesn't mean it hasn't got glaring issues here and there.

spawnofthejudge · 2009-06-11, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

Yep this is what i'm talking about.

There are so many, and it's funny how it misses out one of the main events from Final Fantasy VII, which is very similar to the scene we're talking about from VC.

That's listed over at Gameplay and Story Segregation, which also applies here.

justinstrife · 2009-06-11, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

The game can be completed without doing any of the skirmishes, but yeah like you said they're basically there for people who want to over power the enemy. I'd rather be around about the same level as the enemy, makes for a better battle.

I'm going to have to do skirmishes a little bit as my strategies and gameplay aren't as good as yours and others for this game. I'm usually quite pro when it comes to strategy games and thinking on the fly, however Valkryia is quite different from what I'm use to. Patience is not a strong suit for me in games like this, so I have to be able to over-power my enemies a little bit.

Maybe once I get through the game and have a better grasp of what you can do, the next time around I'll shoot for no skirmishes and higher ranking difficulties.

jwai · 2009-06-12, 06:41

Just finished the escape through the forest, although it took three attempts to figure things out. I found it ironic that the enemy Ace in the mission has the title 'the Immortal'. He definitely wasn't after I tripped off the searchlight to have some not-so-friendly mortar fire zeroed in on him.

Kyero Fox · 2009-06-12, 06:54

I was playin Behind her Blue flame ... and.... her boobies bounce :O

lol

jk, but I thought that DLC was pretty good.

makes me feel bad for Selvaria

jeroz · 2009-06-12, 07:58

is that true for the extra hard DLC difficulty level, to get rank A you would have to clear the map?

spawnofthejudge · 2009-06-12, 08:14

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Originally Posted by jeroz

is that true for the extra hard DLC difficulty level, to get rank A you would have to clear the map?

I think ranks are calculated the same way they always are: speed of completion.

jwai · 2009-06-12, 09:03

*sigh* I made the second Chapter 8 mission one hell of a meatgrinder. I had about four characters knocked out and evacuated by the time I broke the Imperial offensive and took their first camp, taking some mad shooting by Marina and a near-suicidal solo rush by Rosie to save the day (I love the Strong-willed potential!). It then took forever to get the mortar cannon and its defenders out of the picture. Ended up finishing in 13 turns. Terrible...

On the bright side, I have Lynn now

Now, I'm at the stage where my weapons have started branching out on the R&D tree. Pretty much what I'm seeing are weapons that either have better power, accuracy or inflict status conditions. Which bonuses do you guys prefer? I'm thinking about going accuracy, since most of the time, you want head shots to hit their mark.

germanturkey · 2009-06-12, 09:58

yeah, i just go accuracy. except shocktroopers, which i don't think give you that upgrade.

kalbron · 2009-06-12, 10:12

Accuracy for rifles, damage for machineguns, lances for... lances, and accuracy for sniper rifles.

Of course, eventually you'll want a max-level mortar for Largo, and max-level T-mag machineguns are pretty nasty considering how many headshots they can get.

justinstrife · 2009-06-12, 10:50

Lost Welkin on the supply base mission in chapter 5 late last night. I also lost 3 of my 4 scouts by the time I even entered the base from the north group. Seeing that invincible tank there didn't do anything to help my ego.

Since I haven't been saving in the missions, I'm back to re-doing the mission and figuring out a more effective way.

2009-06-11, 18:37	Link #469
Tamad デゲソ！！ ( ・_・）ノ Join Date: Oct 2008 Age: 34	I... didn't even realize that they did call for a medic during the second shot, and didn't even try on the first. Makes me wonder why now... __________________

2009-06-11, 18:43	Link #470
kalbron Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Because the Plot called for it. It's still a good story, but that still doesn't mean it hasn't got glaring issues here and there. Last edited by kalbron; 2009-06-11 at 19:04.

2009-06-12, 06:54	Link #474
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	I was playin Behind her Blue flame ... and.... her boobies bounce :O lol jk, but I thought that DLC was pretty good. makes me feel bad for Selvaria __________________

2009-06-12, 07:58	Link #475
jeroz Art Block Specialist Join Date: Jun 2007	is that true for the extra hard DLC difficulty level, to get rank A you would have to clear the map? __________________ [TAC]

2009-06-11, 15:23	Link #461
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	what the hell. thats not how its supposed to go down. i just finished Marbury Shore. i knew it was going to happen, but so freaking suddenly?! come on. the anime better not cut this out. they've already cut out tons of character development..

2009-06-11, 16:12	Link #462
Solecs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	You have to admit though, the way it was done was just about perfect. I mean the character development up to it, the timing, everything was incredibly well done.

2009-06-11, 16:22	Link #463
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	everything was very well done, but wow, out of the blue.

2009-06-11, 16:30	Link #464
cloner4000 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	There is one later that you can finish in 5 min that give you 50,000 EXP...it's definately doable, but then sometimes it's just easier and leveling up only really increase your aim/hp/evasion. it just increase your defense..that is research through upgrades so I don't think it's game breaking. I was waiting for the medic to show up right up tilil Rosie start singing..than I go like...what that's impossible!!!!

2009-06-12, 06:41	Link #473
jwai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Age: 38	Just finished the escape through the forest, although it took three attempts to figure things out. I found it ironic that the enemy Ace in the mission has the title 'the Immortal'. He definitely wasn't after I tripped off the searchlight to have some not-so-friendly mortar fire zeroed in on him.

2009-06-12, 09:03	Link #477
jwai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Age: 38	sigh I made the second Chapter 8 mission one hell of a meatgrinder. I had about four characters knocked out and evacuated by the time I broke the Imperial offensive and took their first camp, taking some mad shooting by Marina and a near-suicidal solo rush by Rosie to save the day (I love the Strong-willed potential!). It then took forever to get the mortar cannon and its defenders out of the picture. Ended up finishing in 13 turns. Terrible... On the bright side, I have Lynn now Now, I'm at the stage where my weapons have started branching out on the R&D tree. Pretty much what I'm seeing are weapons that either have better power, accuracy or inflict status conditions. Which bonuses do you guys prefer? I'm thinking about going accuracy, since most of the time, you want head shots to hit their mark.

2009-06-12, 09:58	Link #478
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	yeah, i just go accuracy. except shocktroopers, which i don't think give you that upgrade.

2009-06-12, 10:12	Link #479
kalbron Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Accuracy for rifles, damage for machineguns, lances for... lances, and accuracy for sniper rifles. Of course, eventually you'll want a max-level mortar for Largo, and max-level T-mag machineguns are pretty nasty considering how many headshots they can get.

2009-06-12, 10:50	Link #480
justinstrife Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Galt's Gulch Age: 44	Lost Welkin on the supply base mission in chapter 5 late last night. I also lost 3 of my 4 scouts by the time I even entered the base from the north group. Seeing that invincible tank there didn't do anything to help my ego. Since I haven't been saving in the missions, I'm back to re-doing the mission and figuring out a more effective way.