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View Poll Results: To Aru... Index [LN/M] - New Testament Volume 20 Rating
Perfect 10 7 35.00%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 2 10.00%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 7 35.00%
7 out of 10 : Good 0 0%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 10.00%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 2 10.00%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2018-06-14, 11:17   Link #21
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An interesting theory you propose considering he's chilling out with the (wo)man who tried to kill her and, as far as I'm aware, hasn't actually done or said anything about it yet even though OTouma would've at least punched him once or twice by now.

I miss the Touma who'd just drown a terrorist in boiling coffee, not because he's a terrorist, but because he strangled his friend.
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Old 2018-06-14, 11:47   Link #22
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So the Crowleys are turning themselves into monsters, based off the first two parts of ch1. I was a bit confused by them being dragons and such in the prologue but it makes sense now.

That being said, his total lack of concern for Hamazura just makes me think that he only brought him along so he had one less person to worry about wanting to kill him
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Old 2018-06-14, 17:18   Link #23
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An interesting theory you propose considering he's chilling out with the (wo)man who tried to kill her and, as far as I'm aware, hasn't actually done or said anything about it yet even though OTouma would've at least punched him once or twice by now.

I miss the Touma who'd just drown a terrorist in boiling coffee, not because he's a terrorist, but because he strangled his friend.
Touma has punched Aleister twice. Once for hurting his friend/being illusioned and the second time for being a sexual predator.
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Old 2018-06-16, 20:40   Link #24
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I take it the monster girl is another Aleister, yes?
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Old 2018-06-16, 21:24   Link #25
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I had THIS MAJOR REVELATION HAPPEN TO ME AND TELL ME IF IM going over board or no

Oh yeah, new chapter out and Touma still & will never catch a break

Spoiler for for NT 21 & 22:
If that does happen and we get a repeat,
Spoiler for just in case:
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Old 2018-06-16, 22:13   Link #26
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Vol.20 get, and it turns out to be just a stage 1.
At this rate, we won't be seeing the fight against Coronzo until vol.22
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Old 2018-06-16, 23:30   Link #27
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I take it the monster girl is another Aleister, yes?
Spoiler for NT20 spoiler:
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Old 2018-06-17, 05:24   Link #28
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Well that was an enjoyable read. As usual, sucks to be Kamijou.

But I'm hoping with Stiyl now appearing, we'll get the thing I've been waiting almost 10 years for to occur: Stiyl and Accelerator meeting. They are in the same volume, same country and same event. C'mon Kamachi; this is the one thing you've got to deliver on.
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Old 2018-06-18, 01:37   Link #29
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Ok, WHAT?
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Old 2018-06-18, 02:17   Link #30
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Spoiler for Chapter 2:

Ok, WHAT?
Yes, yes it is.
The Offering of Blood.
The optimization of magic circulation.
The de-fragmentation of war casualties.
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Old 2018-06-18, 03:13   Link #31
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The de-fragmentation of war casualties.
I interpreted this (on the first pass) in a cruel horrible way where people were effectively filled with shrapnel like pin-cushions.
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Old 2018-06-19, 00:19   Link #32
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The more I read about the Crowley Hazards, the more I imagine them as the Hyakki Yagyou. Funny thing, out of the many possibilities of Aleister, there's no more than one that could be reasoned with (or at least talked to amicably).

Perhaps there are some Aleisters who decided not to be involved with the war and instead settled down in some peaceful corner of the planet, away from the chaos...
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Old 2018-06-19, 01:10   Link #33
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I assume that isn't possible, because all Aleister Crowleys equally wish to destroy magic. Although they probably disagree on methods based off his comments about infighting at the end of NT18.
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Old 2018-06-19, 21:06   Link #34
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you know, im seeing the mini spoiler about character from the spin off manga being mention here but are we going to see this reference ever again? OR

Spoiler for spoiler:
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Old 2018-06-20, 00:57   Link #35
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What was the reason for Aleister taking damage from the use of magic? Was it due to the scale of the magic in use (and containing the distortions within their own body) or was there some other reason?

By extension, what was the reasoning for Espers to take damage when using magic? It had something to do with their brains being messed around with but was that all?

If at the extreme ends of the spectrum there are magic and science and everything else is just various gradations in between (and mostly because Aleister set it up that way), is it possible that Espers only take damage from using magic due to the magic being based on Aleister's work (western magic) and thus the damage is just simply 'recoil' from using derivative magic? Could they (potentially) use magic that did not have foundations in Aleister's work without suffering from it? The further extension of this is whether Esper powers are actually 'science', or just magic in a focused form (type specialised).

Way-back-when with Vento they created an anti-magic type zone in AC (leading to Vento effectively self-destructing), but was that fundamentally any different to what they're doing now in London? Aleister should know all the backdoors and zero-day exploits (and is fundamentally the architect of it all)
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Old 2018-06-20, 01:26   Link #36
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What was the reason for Aleister taking damage from the use of magic? Was it due to the scale of the magic in use (and containing the distortions within their own body) or was there some other reason?

By extension, what was the reasoning for Espers to take damage when using magic? It had something to do with their brains being messed around with but was that all?

If at the extreme ends of the spectrum there are magic and science and everything else is just various gradations in between (and mostly because Aleister set it up that way), is it possible that Espers only take damage from using magic due to the magic being based on Aleister's work (western magic) and thus the damage is just simply 'recoil' from using derivative magic? Could they (potentially) use magic that did not have foundations in Aleister's work without suffering from it? The further extension of this is whether Esper powers are actually 'science', or just magic in a focused form (type specialised).

Way-back-when with Vento they created an anti-magic type zone in AC (leading to Vento effectively self-destructing), but was that fundamentally any different to what they're doing now in London? Aleister should know all the backdoors and zero-day exploits (and is fundamentally the architect of it all)
Read the previous volume again.
When using magic, it sends ripples over the phase. That's what Aleister despise the most and wants to destroy all magic. Using magic is the equivalent of irresponsibly sending ripples over the phase, and it could end up killing people like how his daughter died.
Aleister takes damage from his own magic because he absorbs all those ripples onto himself. He pay the price for his own action.

Also, Tsuchimikado use traditional Japanese magic. He still take damage when using it. So whether a magic us under the Aelister format is not the problem.

As for Esper powers?
As stated by Aiwass, it is an "imitation of Thelema".
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Old 2018-06-21, 07:30   Link #37
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Spoiler for You do not mention Sphinx in Othi-chan's face!!:


I'm loving their exchanges. Kek.
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Old 2018-06-22, 23:12   Link #38
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Oh, Othinus. Why do you persist so? Your breaking my heart.
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Old 2018-06-23, 01:14   Link #39
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Old 2018-06-23, 09:20   Link #40
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I forget, was it mention what date they are in? cause i know it not Christmas yet cause kamachi has been teasing us that for a while. Any guess anyone?

cause NT19 ended on Dec 12
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