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Old 2017-11-13, 17:22   Link #1341
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It doesn't. Oricon is becoming such a shitty source of sales. It's not just Index, Oricon's charts for the entire industry are supposedly trending downward but the anime industry is making more money each year. Oricon only reports physical copies, and doesn't even include big places like Amazon. In other words, they're old and busted for reporting any sales.
Anime industry makes more money on merchandise, gambling like pachinko, mobages and exporting copyright/ip to other countries. Oricon doesn't track these. It's still very much the gold standard in japan for when it comes tracking sales of dvds, books, music, and stuff like those.

Also, oricon does count amazon. They do so for physical music cds and dvds for sure so physical books should be no different.
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Old 2017-11-27, 07:53   Link #1342
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Kono LN ga Sugoi! 2018 Results for Kamachi works:
  • 26th Place in Best Novel Series, Kazuma Kamachi (10th by Fan Vote)
  • 1st Place in Best Illustrator, Kiyotaka Haimura
  • 1st Place in Best Female Character, Misaka Mikoto
  • 10th Place in Best Female Character, Othinus
  • 20th Place in Best Female Character, Index
  • 21st Place in Best Female Character, Shokuhou Misaki
  • 23rd Place in Best Female Character, Shirai Kuroko
  • 3rd Place in Best Male Character, Kamijou Touma
  • 5th Place in Best Male Character, Accelerator
  • 14th Place in Best Male Character, Kamisato Kakeru
  • 18th Place in Best Male Character, Shiroyama Kyousuke
  • 20th Place in Best Male Character, Aleister Crowley
  • 1st Place in Best Character, Misaka Mikoto
  • 4th Place in Best Character, Kamijou Touma
  • 6th Place in Best Character, Accelerator
  • 22nd Place in Best Character, Othinus
  • 30th Place in Best Character, Kamisato Kakeru
  • 35th Place in Best Character, Index
  • 37th Place in Best Character, Shokuhou Misaki
  • 39th Place in Best Character, Shirai Kuroko
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Old 2017-11-27, 08:43   Link #1343
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that's quite a feat, Index dominate more than 2 position in top 10 character in each category
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Old 2017-11-28, 12:10   Link #1344
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Kono LN ga Sugoi! 2018 Results for Kamachi works:
  • 26th Place in Best Novel Series, Kazuma Kamachi (10th by Fan Vote)
  • 1st Place in Best Illustrator, Kiyotaka Haimura
  • 1st Place in Best Female Character, Misaka Mikoto
  • 10th Place in Best Female Character, Othinus
  • 20th Place in Best Female Character, Index
  • 21st Place in Best Female Character, Shokuhou Misaki
  • 23rd Place in Best Female Character, Shirai Kuroko
  • 3rd Place in Best Male Character, Kamijou Touma
  • 5th Place in Best Male Character, Accelerator
  • 14th Place in Best Male Character, Kamisato Kakeru
  • 18th Place in Best Male Character, Shiroyama Kyousuke
  • 20th Place in Best Male Character, Aleister Crowley
  • 1st Place in Best Character, Misaka Mikoto
  • 4th Place in Best Character, Kamijou Touma
  • 6th Place in Best Character, Accelerator
  • 22nd Place in Best Character, Othinus
  • 30th Place in Best Character, Kamisato Kakeru
  • 35th Place in Best Character, Index
  • 37th Place in Best Character, Shokuhou Misaki
  • 39th Place in Best Character, Shirai Kuroko
How the flipping fuck is Misaka 1st? There are many different females better than her.
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Old 2017-11-28, 14:17   Link #1345
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Old 2017-11-28, 18:15   Link #1346
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How the flipping fuck is Misaka 1st? There are many different females better than her.
That was true a while back, but Misaka got really good in her last few arcs, so I really don't mind tbh. Ever since she became relevant again, I thought she was fine. It was just in the middle there when she was bad. Am sad to see Touma is only 3rd/4th though.

Also, WTF Aleister should have placed in top males AND females. So much sadness.
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Old 2017-12-06, 15:30   Link #1347
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Anime industry makes more money on merchandise, gambling like pachinko, mobages and exporting copyright/ip to other countries. Oricon doesn't track these. It's still very much the gold standard in japan for when it comes tracking sales of dvds, books, music, and stuff like those.

Also, oricon does count amazon. They do so for physical music cds and dvds for sure so physical books should be no different.
Actually, Seafoam is to some degree right and Oricon has definitely not been some gold standard especially as time goes by. This applies more to novels/manga due to various factors including the general year by year increase in digital migration, which is not counted at all. You can read a bit more about it in this post in the first Caveat with the additional links provided:

http://www.someanithing.com/7331
http://www.someanithing.com/167
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Old 2017-12-06, 18:08   Link #1348
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What a coincidence

Best selling LN of 2017

1. Sword Art Online (1,173,096 copies sold)
2. KonoSuba (960,418 copies sold)
3. Re:Zero (925,671 copies sold)
4. Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei (809,636 copies sold)
5. Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e (564,642 copies sold)
6. Kimi no Na wa (Novelization) (501,026 copies sold)
7. Ero-Manga Sensei (489,916 copies sold)
8. Roku de Nashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Record (443,995 copies sold)
9. Overlord (426,706 copies sold)
10. Youjo Senki (417,897 copies sold)



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https://www.oricon.co.jp/special/50490/11/
Reminder that the series listed also have their own digital market and as such the number is promotional.
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Old 2017-12-07, 06:33   Link #1349
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So Kamachi is doing what he did this year, taking a 2 month break before going back to work.

Blood sign is his next release on Feb.
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Old 2018-02-18, 12:52   Link #1350
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I just realized. Maybe Kamachi was told by his editors to wait for a while before publishing the next Index book because they want Index III hype to trickle in to potentially convince Fans who haven't been buying the few latest books for whatever reason to come back and start reading again because there's now hope the Franchise will go somewhere again.
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Old 2018-02-18, 14:29   Link #1351
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Kono LN ga Sugoi! 2018 Results for Kamachi works:
  • 26th Place in Best Novel Series, Kazuma Kamachi (10th by Fan Vote)
  • 1st Place in Best Illustrator, Kiyotaka Haimura
  • 1st Place in Best Female Character, Misaka Mikoto
  • 10th Place in Best Female Character, Othinus
  • 20th Place in Best Female Character, Index
  • 21st Place in Best Female Character, Shokuhou Misaki
  • 23rd Place in Best Female Character, Shirai Kuroko
  • 3rd Place in Best Male Character, Kamijou Touma
  • 5th Place in Best Male Character, Accelerator
  • 14th Place in Best Male Character, Kamisato Kakeru
  • 18th Place in Best Male Character, Shiroyama Kyousuke
  • 20th Place in Best Male Character, Aleister Crowley
  • 1st Place in Best Character, Misaka Mikoto
  • 4th Place in Best Character, Kamijou Touma
  • 6th Place in Best Character, Accelerator
  • 22nd Place in Best Character, Othinus
  • 30th Place in Best Character, Kamisato Kakeru
  • 35th Place in Best Character, Index
  • 37th Place in Best Character, Shokuhou Misaki
  • 39th Place in Best Character, Shirai Kuroko
I am pleased by these results. My boy Touma placing 4th doesn't bother me he is still top 5 and he is the #1 best male character from the series, again, this pleases me. As for Mikoto placing first, l don't get why some people still find this to be surprising, she tops this kind of lists all the friking time.

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That was true a while back, but Misaka got really good in her last few arcs, so I really don't mind tbh. Ever since she became relevant again, I thought she was fine. It was just in the middle there when she was bad. Am sad to see Touma is only 3rd/4th though.

Also, WTF Aleister should have placed in top males AND females. So much sadness.
Wait until the next poll results, I expect Aleister, Lilith and Mina to at least make it into the list thus continuing Kamachis' plot to flood the polls with Raildex characters.
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Old 2018-02-18, 18:30   Link #1352
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I just realized. Maybe Kamachi was told by his editors to wait for a while before publishing the next Index book because they want Index III hype to trickle in to potentially convince Fans who haven't been buying the few latest books for whatever reason to come back and start reading again because there's now hope the Franchise will go somewhere again.
I doubt it. He's probably just taking a break.
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Old 2018-02-19, 00:51   Link #1353
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I doubt it. He's probably just taking a break.
Does kamachi even need breaks, lol?
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Old 2018-02-19, 01:26   Link #1354
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More like the editorial staff needs breaks.
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Old 2018-02-19, 08:29   Link #1355
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He's taken breaks before. In between NT17 and NT18. And NT18 and NT19.
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Old 2018-02-19, 08:49   Link #1356
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Didn't he just write Beatrice, Signs or Sisters (or maybe all of them even) instead in that that time?
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Old 2018-02-19, 10:31   Link #1357
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Some months yes but there were months in between these novels in which no Kamachi novels are released in general. The dude does take breaks.
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Old 2018-06-25, 07:03   Link #1358
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Just an update/reminder of sales in NT , still cant believe it been 7 years

Total Sales, Year, Total Pages

NT01 234,510 March 10, 2011 424
NT02 251,287 August 10, 2011 264
NT03 256,812 December 10, 2011 408
NT04 213,982 March 10, 2012 488
NT05 173,589 October 10, 2012 280
NT06 195,214 January 10, 2013 456
NT07 182,233 May 10, 2013 442
NT08 165,732 September 10, 2013 424
NT09 173,694 January 10, 2014 344
NT10 163,403 May 10, 2014 408
NT11 146,146 October 10, 2014 280
NT12 157,525 March 10, 2015 456
NT13 119,780 July 10, 2015 360
NT14 94,989 November 10, 2015 360
NT15 91,454 April 9, 2016 440
NT16 74,944 August 10, 2016 392
NT17 62,739 November 10, 2016 472
NT18 63,258 May 10, 2017 312
NT19 55,378 October 7, 2017 392
NT20 51,257 June 9, 2018 488


The good news is when Nt 21/22 come out Season 3 would of air and boost LN sales or have an article that older volume are on Re-sale
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Old 2018-06-28, 23:32   Link #1359
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NT18 63,258 May 10, 2017 312
NT19 55,378 October 7, 2017 392
NT20 51,257 June 9, 2018 488
...
last 3, is not completely correct
NT18= 60,729
NT19= 52,992
NT20 on 3rd week = 45,041
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Old 2018-06-29, 12:16   Link #1360
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That's pretty underwhelming to see.
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