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The One Above God · 2018-07-21, 13:40

Ah, dammit, I enjoyed Rizu's chapters more than this one. This might be the worst Uruka chapter so far.

charasu · 2018-07-21, 15:21

Not even /sp/ cp i think, more like everyone cp :v

kuudererules · 2018-07-21, 19:21

worst chapter for Uruka so far
I mean she's thinking too much and she's fine if Nariyuki swing that way

WingedAccelerator · 2018-07-22, 05:00

Yup, I didn't like this one either. Feelz. :/

wuhugm · 2018-07-22, 13:23

Is Uruka going to win? Kinda like impressive flag but a double-edged sword

Author is hell-bent on making Uruka seems to be intimate with another guy
And making Yuiga jealous in the process
But hasn't he gone too far?
Previous ones only insinuate that Uruka had a crush on a guy
Now it just make Uruka looks like a bitch with all those hickeys
And Yuiga still do nothing like protecting Uruka from this "imaginary bad boyfriend" of Uruka
If the next chapter which is about a mystery being solved by Fumino is not about the origin of those hickeys,
then I say bullshit if in the end it was revealed that Yuiga loved Uruka all along

Lex79 · 2018-07-22, 13:37

It doesn't seem a flag so big to me. Could very well simply being that Yuiga is curious and flustered thinking that Uruka is in a relationship and does perverted things with a guy. Or maybe he is subconsciously a bit jealous, but nothing more.

NeutralZero · 2018-07-22, 23:05

IF moeyuki saw a similar mark in any of the heroine, he would still be bothered so hard to tell
similar to the suitor chapter of Fumino...
on a plus side to this crappy chapter, it made moeuyuki bother or curious how she got that on the other side:
Rizu: "Welcome to the club"

Tenzen12 · 2018-07-22, 23:29

In Fumino case, Yuiga wasn't bothered by it slightest on personal level. He just wanted suitor wait until exams ends. It might be different now, but Uruka is only one he consistently show sign of jealousy

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

Is Uruka going to win? Kinda like impressive flag but a double-edged sword

Author is hell-bent on making Uruka seems to be intimate with another guy
And making Yuiga jealous in the process
But hasn't he gone too far?
Previous ones only insinuate that Uruka had a crush on a guy
Now it just make Uruka looks like a bitch with all those hickeys
And Yuiga still do nothing like protecting Uruka from this "imaginary bad boyfriend" of Uruka
If the next chapter which is about a mystery being solved by Fumino is not about the origin of those hickeys,
then I say bullshit if in the end it was revealed that Yuiga loved Uruka all along

It's certainly big flag, but it's big flag for quite while already , at this point I am actually starting worry author might want go for "status quo is God" angle, while haste progress elsewhere, it's inelegant and heavy handed way to screw with flags, but unfortunately it is still used (poor Lalatina).

As for Yuiga potentially loving Uruka, all along I don't see problem here. There is nothing indicating that Uruka's (nonexistent) loverboy forced her do anything she didn't want and apparently Nariyuki is trying pretty hard not be jealous, which is both flag on its own and reason why he is avoiding finding more. It's basically classic denial in action.

wuhugm · 2018-07-23, 00:01

^What worries me is that this trope of "heroine is possibly chummy with a man" is abundant in seinen manga, but very rare in shounen

In shounen manga, when that trope happens, it bothers the MC so much that he's going out of his way to "stalk and protect" said heroine, basically what Uruka is doing this chapter to Yuiga

Here, Yuiga only curious, and while you can argue there is a tinge of jealousy, this is simply not what a shounen MC does when there's a possibility of a heroine is sucking someone's else dick

There's also that jinx that if it were Uruka, she couldn't have keep her calm

But as I said, if next chapter is Yuiga asking Fumino to investigate Uruka, then I'm pretty sure Uruka will win this game

Tenzen12 · 2018-07-23, 00:13

I see, but again stalking Uruka would mean admit he has feeling for her (and he is not there yet) and not wanting interfere with other heroine happiness (with other guy) for cost denying yourself is not that uncommon and it's also almost always wining flag where MC finally realize own feelings barge into extremely well guarded manor beat bastard boyfriend (or if he is not bastard it,'a just chasing taking off airplane for sake of netori-ing poor boyfriend) and get happy end.

Well here it would be much less climatic scene, but principle is same. Look on Fumino case Yuiga could brazenly confront her suitor despite not having any particular feelings for her by that point, yet he anxiously try avoid learn anything about Uruka love interest. I dare say that itself is pretty significant hint.

Hujan · 2018-07-23, 04:55

^your argument will be more believable if you, yourself is not Uruka shipper. so I cant help but to think when you say it is Big Flag, it is significant hint, is because your bias (cause you are Uruka shipper)...

also, I bet detective Fumino next chapter is about "who is the (cat) prince?"

Tenzen12 · 2018-07-23, 06:48

I also said just post before, that author might have intent ditch that flag as he didn't do anything with it for while.

Also what have me being shipper have anything to do with my argument? It either make sense or not. You should judge what is said instead, of by who. If you disagree then with logic behind post, that's your right, but then you should make counter-argument I can work with instead of something so onesided.

Hujan · 2018-07-23, 07:25

it is not a matter of agree or disagree, I just saying that "Your argument will be more believable IF you are not Uruka shipper".

your argument is sound, like this argument "Look on Fumino case Yuiga could brazenly confront her suitor despite not having any particular feelings for her by that point, yet he anxiously try avoid learn anything about Uruka love interest".

but the conclusion that "I dare say that itself is pretty significant hint", is subjective opinion.
and your subjective opinion, will be more believable IF you are not Uruka shipper.

Tenzen12 · 2018-07-23, 08:01

You said my argument is sound... so what about approve it for me instead? Then it will come from Uruka non-shipper and be "more objective".

Hujan · 2018-07-23, 08:15

your argument is sound because that is a fact.
but whether it is a hint or not, I cant say for sure.

wuhugm · 2018-07-23, 08:51

The most obvious hint that was the jinx got swept under the rug

I'll be furious if the one who took Yuiga's hand was among Rizu, Fumino, and Uruka

Coz they just don't show any reaction of it at all

Do hints even mean anything at all?

MK-95- · 2018-07-23, 14:18

^The jinx most likely won't be made use of or mentioned again until maybe the final arc or close to to final arc of this manga. All it was really used for was to tease the readers (preserve our interest in this story) and confirm that Yuiga's going to end up with the girl who touched his hand during the festival.

Also, I'm inclined to agree that if it's revealed that the girl he held hands with is one of the main trio, I'd call bullshit on them not reacting to or making a big deal of it considering how conscious they were of it in the first place.

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Worst Uruka chapter by far, no debate there. That's a new low for her.

As it stands, I still don't think Uruka's gonna win the shipping wars. Imo, I find it unnatural that the author is pushing her so hard to begin with. It makes me think that he's just using her as camouflage so in the event that another heroine wins, it'd be more of a "surprise". Or maybe I'm just overthinking this and he's going the super obvious route and making it absolutely clear who's endgame?

thefreakmike · 2018-07-23, 14:58

How big of a chance does shadow girl has of being end girl? Whoever she is

MK-95- · 2018-07-23, 16:10

^I'd say it's significant (but not absolute) since Yuiga commented on the authenticity of the jinx. (refer to ch 64, pages 19-20) Going by the tone of his monologue, It's almost certain that the girl who held his hand is most likely gonna be endgame.

There is one way they can get around the jinx and that's if they use it in a non-romantic way, instead binding him to the girl in another way such as being co-workers, becoming neighbors, etc... (However, given the romantic context in which the jinx was originally introduced, it seems unlikely that it'll go that route and if it does, some readers will call bullshit on it and it would be justified.)

charasu · 2018-07-26, 00:16

Wild miharu appear in fumino chapter

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2018-07-22, 13:23	Link #1025
wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	Is Uruka going to win? Kinda like impressive flag but a double-edged sword Author is hell-bent on making Uruka seems to be intimate with another guy And making Yuiga jealous in the process But hasn't he gone too far? Previous ones only insinuate that Uruka had a crush on a guy Now it just make Uruka looks like a bitch with all those hickeys And Yuiga still do nothing like protecting Uruka from this "imaginary bad boyfriend" of Uruka If the next chapter which is about a mystery being solved by Fumino is not about the origin of those hickeys, then I say bullshit if in the end it was revealed that Yuiga loved Uruka all along __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

2018-07-23, 00:01	Link #1029
wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	^What worries me is that this trope of "heroine is possibly chummy with a man" is abundant in seinen manga, but very rare in shounen In shounen manga, when that trope happens, it bothers the MC so much that he's going out of his way to "stalk and protect" said heroine, basically what Uruka is doing this chapter to Yuiga Here, Yuiga only curious, and while you can argue there is a tinge of jealousy, this is simply not what a shounen MC does when there's a possibility of a heroine is sucking someone's else dick There's also that jinx that if it were Uruka, she couldn't have keep her calm But as I said, if next chapter is Yuiga asking Fumino to investigate Uruka, then I'm pretty sure Uruka will win this game __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

2018-07-21, 19:21	Link #1023
kuudererules Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Indonesia	worst chapter for Uruka so far I mean she's thinking too much and she's fine if Nariyuki swing that way

2018-07-22, 05:00	Link #1024
WingedAccelerator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	Yup, I didn't like this one either. Feelz. :/

2018-07-22, 13:37	Link #1026
Lex79 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Italy	It doesn't seem a flag so big to me. Could very well simply being that Yuiga is curious and flustered thinking that Uruka is in a relationship and does perverted things with a guy. Or maybe he is subconsciously a bit jealous, but nothing more.

2018-07-22, 23:05	Link #1027
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	IF moeyuki saw a similar mark in any of the heroine, he would still be bothered so hard to tell similar to the suitor chapter of Fumino... on a plus side to this crappy chapter, it made moeuyuki bother or curious how she got that on the other side: Rizu: "Welcome to the club"

2018-07-23, 00:13	Link #1030
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	I see, but again stalking Uruka would mean admit he has feeling for her (and he is not there yet) and not wanting interfere with other heroine happiness (with other guy) for cost denying yourself is not that uncommon and it's also almost always wining flag where MC finally realize own feelings barge into extremely well guarded manor beat bastard boyfriend (or if he is not bastard it,'a just chasing taking off airplane for sake of netori-ing poor boyfriend) and get happy end. Well here it would be much less climatic scene, but principle is same. Look on Fumino case Yuiga could brazenly confront her suitor despite not having any particular feelings for her by that point, yet he anxiously try avoid learn anything about Uruka love interest. I dare say that itself is pretty significant hint. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2018-07-23, 04:55	Link #1031
Hujan One Who Search The Truth Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Cloud in the Sky	^your argument will be more believable if you, yourself is not Uruka shipper. so I cant help but to think when you say it is Big Flag, it is significant hint, is because your bias (cause you are Uruka shipper)... also, I bet detective Fumino next chapter is about "who is the (cat) prince?" __________________ It is better to understand than to judge, That's why it is better to discuss than debate. when discussion had became debate, let's stop.

2018-07-23, 06:48	Link #1032
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	I also said just post before, that author might have intent ditch that flag as he didn't do anything with it for while. Also what have me being shipper have anything to do with my argument? It either make sense or not. You should judge what is said instead, of by who. If you disagree then with logic behind post, that's your right, but then you should make counter-argument I can work with instead of something so onesided. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll) Last edited by Tenzen12; 2018-07-23 at 07:23.

2018-07-23, 07:25	Link #1033
Hujan One Who Search The Truth Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Cloud in the Sky	it is not a matter of agree or disagree, I just saying that "Your argument will be more believable IF you are not Uruka shipper". your argument is sound, like this argument "Look on Fumino case Yuiga could brazenly confront her suitor despite not having any particular feelings for her by that point, yet he anxiously try avoid learn anything about Uruka love interest". but the conclusion that "I dare say that itself is pretty significant hint", is subjective opinion. and your subjective opinion, will be more believable IF you are not Uruka shipper. __________________ It is better to understand than to judge, That's why it is better to discuss than debate. when discussion had became debate, let's stop.

2018-07-23, 08:01	Link #1034
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	You said my argument is sound... so what about approve it for me instead? Then it will come from Uruka non-shipper and be "more objective". __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2018-07-23, 08:15	Link #1035
Hujan One Who Search The Truth Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Cloud in the Sky	your argument is sound because that is a fact. but whether it is a hint or not, I cant say for sure. __________________ It is better to understand than to judge, That's why it is better to discuss than debate. when discussion had became debate, let's stop.

2018-07-23, 08:51	Link #1036
wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	The most obvious hint that was the jinx got swept under the rug I'll be furious if the one who took Yuiga's hand was among Rizu, Fumino, and Uruka Coz they just don't show any reaction of it at all Do hints even mean anything at all? __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

2018-07-23, 14:18	Link #1037
MK-95- Best Girl Connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Trinidad & Tobago Age: 28	^The jinx most likely won't be made use of or mentioned again until maybe the final arc or close to to final arc of this manga. All it was really used for was to tease the readers (preserve our interest in this story) and confirm that Yuiga's going to end up with the girl who touched his hand during the festival. Also, I'm inclined to agree that if it's revealed that the girl he held hands with is one of the main trio, I'd call bullshit on them not reacting to or making a big deal of it considering how conscious they were of it in the first place. ------------- Worst Uruka chapter by far, no debate there. That's a new low for her. As it stands, I still don't think Uruka's gonna win the shipping wars. Imo, I find it unnatural that the author is pushing her so hard to begin with. It makes me think that he's just using her as camouflage so in the event that another heroine wins, it'd be more of a "surprise". Or maybe I'm just overthinking this and he's going the super obvious route and making it absolutely clear who's endgame? __________________ "When there is evil in this world that justice cannot defeat, would you taint your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?" - Lelouch vi Britannia as Zero. Last edited by MK-95-; 2018-07-23 at 16:10. Reason: Grammar

2018-07-23, 14:58	Link #1038
thefreakmike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Peru	How big of a chance does shadow girl has of being end girl? Whoever she is __________________

2018-07-23, 16:10	Link #1039
MK-95- Best Girl Connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Trinidad & Tobago Age: 28	^I'd say it's significant (but not absolute) since Yuiga commented on the authenticity of the jinx. (refer to ch 64, pages 19-20) Going by the tone of his monologue, It's almost certain that the girl who held his hand is most likely gonna be endgame. There is one way they can get around the jinx and that's if they use it in a non-romantic way, instead binding him to the girl in another way such as being co-workers, becoming neighbors, etc... (However, given the romantic context in which the jinx was originally introduced, it seems unlikely that it'll go that route and if it does, some readers will call bullshit on it and it would be justified.) __________________ "When there is evil in this world that justice cannot defeat, would you taint your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?" - Lelouch vi Britannia as Zero.

2018-07-26, 00:16	Link #1040
charasu DigiDestinied Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: South East Asia	Wild miharu appear in fumino chapter __________________ This size of this sig is beyond what A-S permits.