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Old 2013-04-13, 20:58   Link #8361
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The latest chapter was nice though it looks like he will indeed create a whole new future with the development in the cave had change.

I'm looking forward for the loli version of the girls he conquered.

With this setting, he probably will be the one who stir the likes, dislikes, hobbies or character of the girls. Leading them way to the desired ending.
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Old 2013-04-13, 23:17   Link #8362
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still confused.... I think the reset is there to make sure Keima still in his track... if he miss it, then the 'future' won't be there

I don't know what will Keima do again... I think he already set everything and can go back to the future now...
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Old 2013-04-14, 03:19   Link #8363
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Great chapter, finally understood what the hell is the reason for this trip to the past..,


Now Keima will set up his conquests and go Back to the future...
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Old 2013-04-14, 04:44   Link #8364
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So this entire series was about creating a Stable Time Loop.

Funny how this chapter has allowed me to explain to my roomies what TWGOK was all about in a few minutes.
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Old 2013-04-14, 04:53   Link #8365
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I'm looking forward for the loli version of the girls he conquered.
Loli Shiori please.
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Old 2013-04-14, 07:44   Link #8366
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"The ending has already been written, but there is no beginning..." - Dokuro Skull
"I can already see the ending" Keima
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Old 2013-04-14, 09:21   Link #8367
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So this entire series was about creating a Stable Time Loop.

Funny how this chapter has allowed me to explain to my roomies what TWGOK was all about in a few minutes.
I hate Stable Time Loops. I prefer "you change the past, you change the future" not "change the past and cause the future you know". That's why i like Back to The Future series since it sticks to the former rule. (Except Doctor Who since both rules apply in that universe).
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Old 2013-04-14, 10:41   Link #8368
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More wibbly wobbly timey wimey plotz!
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Old 2013-04-14, 10:51   Link #8369
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So there is A, B, Y...etc world line
he is from A line
And this world from B line
He need to make this world past match the world line he come from

In this time there is some game park but there is none from where he come from ( in his flash back there is not even trace of anything been built or removed)

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Old 2013-04-14, 11:35   Link #8370
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So Keima has to move the time line away from the attractor field in order to make his future the active time line.

El psy congro.
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Old 2013-04-14, 16:06   Link #8371
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I hate Stable Time Loops. I prefer "you change the past, you change the future" not "change the past and cause the future you know". That's why i like Back to The Future series since it sticks to the former rule. (Except Doctor Who since both rules apply in that universe).
There are flaws in both. If the changing the past affects the future, then there's no explanation for why the protagonist(s) are still intact with no changes to their history or personality.
In the "Stable Time Loop" case, you have a circular flow of causality. The future goes back to the past, which in turn affects the future and that makes them go back to the past. In this case, there is no clear beginning that sets these events into motion.

In both cases there are parts that require the suspension of disbelief, and without time travel being possible in the real world, it's hard to say which theory is closer to the truth than the others.
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Old 2013-04-14, 21:52   Link #8372
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There are flaws in both. If the changing the past affects the future, then there's no explanation for why the protagonist(s) are still intact with no changes to their history or personality.
In the "Stable Time Loop" case, you have a circular flow of causality. The future goes back to the past, which in turn affects the future and that makes them go back to the past. In this case, there is no clear beginning that sets these events into motion.

In both cases there are parts that require the suspension of disbelief, and without time travel being possible in the real world, it's hard to say which theory is closer to the truth than the others.

Multiple Worlds Interpretation
would be able to solve this paradox, but if and only if this is an interaction (Keima) between 2 different universes, which seems to be Dokuro's explanation. Dokuro assumes that in this universe saving the goddesses would fail, and sends someone out to look for a universe where success occurred to recruit the factor that caused success. This would mean of course that this isn't Keima's "original" universe, he is being recruited to save create the "beginning" of another universe so that this universe will end up going along the same series of events as his own universe.

This of course begs the question if this event is a requirement for the original story timeline to exist. If indeed a certain Keima must go to an equivalent past of another universe to push it towards a desired timeline, and that Multiple Worlds Interpretation is the most viable solution to the paradoxes of time travel, then it stands to reason in the original story timeline a certain Keima intruded as well to create our story's timeline.
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Old 2013-04-14, 23:30   Link #8373
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Does this make the goddess hosts childhood friends? (Not Keima's strict definition.)

It is ironic that while Keima is about to manipulate the girls for the future the girls are trying to imprint themselves to 7 year old Keima so he'll choose one of them.

This is almost like the chicken or the egg. As the girls could be the reason he is anti-social to females on account of some vague memory. His likes and dislikes shaped as well. In Yui's case she got bro treatment.
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Old 2013-04-15, 03:18   Link #8374
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Does this make the goddess hosts childhood friends? (Not Keima's strict definition.)

It is ironic that while Keima is about to manipulate the girls for the future the girls are trying to imprint themselves to 7 year old Keima so he'll choose one of them.

This is almost like the chicken or the egg. As the girls could be the reason he is anti-social to females on account of some vague memory. His likes and dislikes shaped as well. In Yui's case she got bro treatment.
I think Keima is more likely to contact the goddesses, not his capture targets. He did mention how convenient it was for all the goddess hosts to be near him.

Keima could be the one who helped the goddesses select their hosts.
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Old 2013-04-15, 07:29   Link #8375
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That was one thing that bothered me, how all of the goddesses were close to him and "within his net" if you will.
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Old 2013-04-15, 09:01   Link #8376
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That was one thing that bothered me, how all of the goddesses were close to him and "within his net" if you will.
Points towards one thing : he's really born to be a god.

No I don't mean he is the vessel for Demeter! Get those impossible thoughts out of your heads!
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Old 2013-04-15, 20:00   Link #8377
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All I want to know is, "Will we get a harem end?"
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Old 2013-04-15, 20:10   Link #8378
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All I want to know is, "Will we get a harem end?"
Well it probably is the most likely scenario I wouldn't put it pass Keima to choose one who he is able to tolerate, care about and allows him to live his life as he please. A certain imouto comes to mind. But meh any end is fine here.
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Old 2013-04-15, 20:13   Link #8379
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Well it probably is the most likely scenario I wouldn't put it pass Keima to choose one who he is able to tolerate, care about and allows him to live his life as he please. A certain imouto comes to mind. But meh any end is fine here.
Technically he would. He would transform from being the most unpopular guy in the school to the one always having a date in the gym storage locker.
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Old 2013-04-15, 20:49   Link #8380
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I know this series is leaning towards the harem end, but a friend is still holding out for "Chihiro true end".
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